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kafir4 ever Member Posts: 290 |
posted 30 September 2005 10:32 AM
The following is the story of Safiyah Bint Huyeiy Ibn Akhtab, the Jewish woman who was captured when Muhammad’s troops attacked Kheibar and brought her to the Prophet as part of his share of the booty. This story, is reported in the Book of Tabaqat and is published also in the trusted Islamic site. http://www.muslimunited.org/topics/prophet/wives.html Safiyah was seventeen and very beautiful when Muslims killed her father, husband and many of her relatives. In the same day the Prophet of Allah wanted to sleep with her. Here is the exact text of the story. “Safiyah was born in Medinah. She belonged to the Jewish tribe of Banu 'I-Nadir. When this tribe was expelled from Medinah in the year 4 A.H, Huyaiy was one of those who settled in the fertile colony of Khaibar together with Kinana ibn al-Rabi' to whom Safiyah was married a little before the Muslims attacked Khaibar. She was then seventeen. She had formerly been the wife of Sallam ibn Mishkam, who divorced her. One mile from Khaibar. Here the Prophet married Safiyah. She was groomed and made-up for the Prophet by Umm Sulaim, the mother of Anas ibn Malik. They spent the night there. Abu Ayyub al-Ansari guarded the tent of the Prophet the whole night. When, in the early dawn, the Prophet saw Abu Ayyub strolling up and down, he asked him what he meant by this sentry-go; he replied: "I was afraid for you with this young lady. You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, and till recently she was an unbeliever. I was really afraid for you on her account". The Prophet prayed for Abu Ayyub al-Ansari (Ibn Hisham, p. 766) Safiyah had requested the Prophet to wait till he had gone a stage away from Khaibar. "Why?" asked the Prophet. "I was afraid for you on account of the Jews who still happened to be near at Khaibar!" The reason Safiyah rejected the sexual advances of the 57-year-old Muhammad should be obvious to any objective person. I believe most women prefer to mourn than jump into bed with the killer of their father, husband and many relatives on the same day of their death. But the fact that the prophet of Allah could not contain his sexual urges for one day to let this young girl grieve, says a lot of his thinking and moral character. However as for the rest of the story we are not sure whether it is true or was fabricated by Muslim historians to wipe the impression of rape. But this is all we have and to find the truth we have to rely on these biased documents written by Muslim historians. The story goes on to say that Abu Ayyub was concerned for the safety of the prophet because he (Muhammad) had killed Safiyah's father, husband and many of her relatives. This is logical. It is foolish to sleep with a woman after killing her loved ones. But Safiyah’s excuse for rejecting Muhammad’s advances towards her seems unreasonable. When Muhammad took this young girl into his tent, he had already killed many Jews and was winning the war. If there were any Jews left, they probably were more worried for their own lives than Safiyah’s chastity. Also she was already in the tent alone with Muhammad, how the Jews would have known if they were engaged in sex or not? I wonder what other excuse could she make to a man who was the murderer of her father, husband and many of her relatives to let her alone at least that night? Note that the historian is saying that the wedding took place one day after the prophet got private with Safiyah and made his moves to have sex with her. This presented no problem for the prophet as he had his Allah reveal a verse saying it is okay to sleep with women captured in war without marrying them even if they are married. “And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess…” (Q. 4:24) The above verse shows that the Holy prophet did not believe that slaves have any right. You could be a happily married woman living your own life, but if Muhammad and his devout followers attacked your town and captured you, you would lose all your rights, and while your husband was being killed or enslaved you would be given to a Muslim Mujahid who would rape you all with Allah’s blessings. This is confirmed in another place. (Q. 23: 1-7) 1-The believers must (eventually) win through,- Let us continue with the story of Safiyah. When she was brought along with other prisoners-of-war, the Prophet said to her, "Safiyah, your father always maintained enmity with me until Allah made the final decision." She said, "But Allah does not catch one for the sins of another." This of course contradicts Muhammad’s own behavior who annihilated the entire Bani Qainuqa with the pretext that few of them had killed a Muslim in retaliation . That is despite the verse that says "Namely, that no bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another" (Q. 53:38) Also it was not Allah who made the final decision. Safiyah's father was killed by Muhammad's men not by Allah. This would be the same as Hitler claiming that God killed all the Jews in the holocaust. If God wanted to kill all those people that Muhammad and his army killed He could have done it on his own. God needs no mercenaries to do his will. We have to remember that Muhammad killed most of her people and banished the rest of them. So giving the choice to join her people is not much of a choice. “She was very intelligent and gentle and said, "O Allah's Messenger, I had hoped for Islam, and I confirmed you before your invitation. Now when I have the honour to be in your presence, I am given a choice between kufr and Islam I swear by Allah, that Allah and His Messenger is dearer to me than my own freedom and my joining with my people." (Tabaqat). Was this confession, if true, sincere? Was she safe to speak out her mind? She was enslaved by a man who had exterminated her family and could do with her the same. See the reference made to her "freedom". This shows clearly that she was not free. In fact she must have been very intelligent to fabricate those lies to save her own life. “When Safiyah was married, she was very young, and according to one report she was hardly seventeen years old and was extremely beautiful. Once A'isha said a few sentences about her short stature, at which the Prophet said, "You have said a thing that if it were left in the sea, it would mix with it (and make its water dirty). " (Abu Dawud). She not only deeply loved the Prophet but also greatly respected him as Allah's Messenger, for she heard the conversations of her father and uncle after they went to Medinah. When the Prophet migrated to Medinah, they came to see him and find out whether he was the true Messenger of Allah spoken of in the Scriptures. When they got back and talked together that night, Safiyah was in her bed listening to them. One of them said, "What do you think about him?" He replied, "He is the same Prophet foretold by our Scriptures." Then the other said, "What is to be done?" The reply came that they must oppose him with all their might.” Is this story, narrated by Abu Dawud, credible? How can two Jews recognize Muhammad as the prophet foretold by their scriptures and decide to oppose him with all their might? It defies all logic. It takes a "deficient in intelligence" to believe in this nonsense. It is not clear whether Safiyah lied to conform and make her self accepted among her enemies or it is another fabrication of a zealot believer. Why would someone decide to oppose with all his might the one who he has found out to be the promised one of his own scriptures? But this is not all! Where in the Bible it says anything about Muhammad? How come Safiyah’s father and uncle could decipher their scriptures and find about Muhammad while for 1400 years all Muslim scholars have been unable to do it? “So Safiyah was convinced of the truth of the Prophet. She spared no pain to look after him, care for him and provide every comfort that she could think of. This is evident since she came into his presence after the fall of Khaibar." See how the writer contradicts himself in one page? Just a few lines above we read that she was captured and was taken to Muhammad as a prisoner. She didn’t come on her own. She was taken to the prophet because she was young and the prettiest of other women captured. “The Prophet had a slight grievance against her for she had refused when the Prophet wanted to have privacy with her at the previous stage (of the journey). At the next halt, the Prophet had privacy with her and spent all night with her. When she was asked by Umm Sulaim, "What did you see in Allah's Messenger?" She said he was very pleased with her and did not sleep at all but was talking to her all night. He had asked her, 'Why did you refuse at the first stage when I desired privacy with you?' She had said, 'I was afraid for you because of the nearness of the Jews. "'This thing further increased my merit in his eyes." (Tabaqat). Bukhari also has recorded some Hadithes telling the invasion of Kheibar and how Muhammad met Safiyah. Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz: Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet. (Sahih Bukhari 1.367) Mahr or dowry is a money that a bride receives from her husband when he marries her. Muhammad did not pay Safiyah her Mahr because he had to pay it to himself for manumitting her. Of course the irony is that he did not buy her but enslaved her by raiding her town. This story is significant because it gives us an insight into the moral and ethical values of the Prophet of God (Peace be upon his immaculate soul). Our modern sensibility makes us cringe with stories like this, yet amazingly Muhammad taught that he is going to receive two rewards by marrying Safiyah. One for manumitting someone whom no one but himself had enslaved and the other for marrying the prettiest girl who was 40 years younger. 'Abu Musa reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said about one who emancipated a slave woman, and then married her, that for him there are two rewards.' Also in another part 'Narrated Anas: IP: Logged |
kafir4 ever Member Posts: 290 |
posted 30 September 2005 11:08 AM
Muhammad married between 13 to 22 wives. The most authentic biography of Muhammad tells us that Muhammad had at least 13 (when I counted, I found this to be 14) wives (see Ref.3 page 794). Some writers even suggest that Muhammad had up to 28 wives. This is not to say that the only women Muhammad had in his harem. He had at least two concubines namely Maria and Rayhana. Maria was presented to Muhammad by the Coptic head of Egypt while Rayhana was a booty from the genocide of Banu Qurayza, a Jewish tribe that lived in Medina. Both these sex slaves were of extreme beauty and very young when Muhammad possessed them. Here here is what Ibn Ishak writes about Maria: Ibn Hisham’s note 129 Ibrahim’s mother was Mariya the Copt. Abdullah b. Wahb from I Lahia told me that Mariya was the prophet’s concubine. The Muuqauqis presented her to him from Hafn in the province of Ansina. (Ibid, page 711). Saudah Bint. Zama: She was neither young nor beautiful. She was the right lady to take care of Mohammad's young children after the death of Khadijah. They got married in 620 A.D. She was middle aged, plump, jolly and of kindly disposition. She was a widow who lived until the end of time of Umor. Mohammad married Sauda when he was 53 and she was 50 almost the same time when he married Aisha. It is stated that Sauda "gave" her "nights" to Ayesha to have him for sex meant that old Sauda was a maidservant while young Aisha was for having good time (speaking in today’s parlance). We can find at least three women who were quite young when Muhammad married them. Here are a few samples: Maimunah (or Barra) Bint Al Harith: Mohammad married her when he was 60 and she was 36 in 629 A.D. (7 A.H). Zainab Bint Khuzaima was her half sister. She was the last woman the prophet married due to the restriction imposed on him by Allah (33:50, 33:52). She lived with Mohammad for just 3 years. After Mohammad died, Maimunah lived for another 40 years. She died at an age of 80 (51 A.H.). She was Mohammad's last wife to die. Rayhana: She was not a real wife. Some authorities say that she eventually converted to Islam and married Muhammad. She was a booty from a battle. She was a Jewish girl of extreme beauty; so, Mohammad proposed to marry her. However, she refused to covert to Islam and marries Mohammad. Therefore, she became a sex slave of Mohammad. She was a teenager when Muhammad captured her. Zainab: We can demonstrate from various authentic Islamic sources that Muhammad’s marriage to Zaynab was completely based on his desire to have a ‘good time’ with her (I’m borrowing this term to be in tune with modernity!) and nothing else. This truth can never be suppressed no matter how much any Islamic apologist tries to the contrary. First, we turn to Quran. This unholy union was a matter of great shame in the Arab society of that time. The Arab society of those days could never imagine that the father of an adopted son would marry his wife. It was because the Arabs treated their adopted children as their own. Thus, this type of marriage was completely unacceptable to them. Muhammad knew about this and feared that he would be ostracised/shunned by his community if he plunged into fulfilling his carnal desire for Zaynab without the intervention of Almighty Allah. So, Allah promptly sent down 33:37 that permitted Zayd to divorce Zaynab and gave the licence to Muhammad to sleep with her. Here is the complete verse: 033.037 This verse is very clear in disclosing the secret carnal desire of Muhammad for Zaynab. Ali Dashti, sourcing from authentic sources like Jalalyn and Zamakshari (the two great writers of Tafsir Qur’an that ever lived) writes: The Prophet’s love for Zaynab arose later, and the time and circumstances of its incidence are diversely reported. The account in the Tafsir al-Jalalayn suggests that his attitude began to change soon after her marriage to Zayd. "After a time (probably meaning a short time) his eye fell on her, and love for Zaynab budded in his heart. (Ref. 7, page 132) Citing the work of Zamakhshari, Ali Dashti continues further: Zamakhshari, in his comment on verse 37 sura 33, states that it was after Zaynab’s marriage to Zayd that the Prophet’s eye fell on her. She pleased him so much that he could not help saying, "Praise be to God who makes hearts beat!" The Prophet had seen Zaynab before but she had not then pleased him; otherwise he would have asked for her hand. Zaynab heard the Prophet’s exclamation and told Zayd about it. Zayd knew intuitively that God had cast an unease with Zaynab into his heart. He therefore went in haste to the Prophet and asked whether he might divorce his wife. The Prophet asked what had happened and whether he suspected her. Zayd replied that he had met with nothing but kindness from her, but was distressed because she considered herself more noble than himself and more suitable for the Prophet. It was then that the words "Keep your wife for yourself and fear God" in verse 37 came down. (Ref. 7, page 132-133) To be fair with Muhammad, Ali Dashti makes the following comment regarding the honesty of Muhammad’s desire for Zaynab as expressed in 33:37 This meaningful verse is an impressive example of the Prophet Mohammad’s honesty and candor. (Ref. 7, page 133) References: 1. Shahih Bukhari; Translation by Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan 2. Shahih Muslim; Translation by Abdur Rahman Siddiqui 3. SIRAT RASUL ALLAH by Ibn Ishaq Translated by A. Guillaume. Fifteenth Impression, 2001 Published by Oxford University Press, Karachi, Pakistan 4. DICTIONARY OF ISLAM by Thomas Patrick Hughes , 1994 Published by KAZI Publications, Inc., Chicago, IL, USA 5. MUHAMMAD by Maxime Rodinson: Translated from the French by Anne Carter, 2002 Published by the NewYork Press, New York 6. THE HEDAYA COMMENTARY ON THE ISLAMIC LAWS (reprint 1994) Translated by Charles Hamilton, Published by Kitab Bhaban , 1784 Kalan Mahal, Darya Ganj, New Delhi 110002 [India] 7. 23 YEARS: A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad by Ali Dashti (1994) Translated from the Persian by F.R.C. Bagley, Mazda Publishers, Costa Mesa, California.
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everyday_angel Member Posts: 274 |
posted 30 September 2005 11:18 AM
does anybody ever read his cut and paste novels? IP: Logged |
Horemheb Member Posts: 2732 |
posted 30 September 2005 11:22 AM
Gee, angel is back. I figured the CIA picked her up weeks ago. IP: Logged |
kafir4 ever Member Posts: 290 |
posted 30 September 2005 11:55 AM
quote: You might want to think again before dismissing as novel the history of Islam, as was recorded by Waquidi, Tabari, Ibn Hesham and other early historians who portray the Prophet of Islam as a vile man. What do you gain by lying to yourself? Isn’t it time that you read the history of Islam and learn the facts? For how long shall Muslims keep denying that Islam and the examples laid by its founder are the real cause of many of the ills in the Islamic world? You are a society living in denial and you suffer the consequences of your unwillingness to face the truth. The hadithes that I quoted are from Sahih Bukhari. They are authentic and accepted by all the Muslims specially Sunnis. However, you must realize that these hadithes were reported by devout Mulsims. These Muslims went on their limbs to attribute a miracle to their prophet. By reporting these lies, they hoped to gain recognition and make a show of piety amongst their peers. So all those hadithes that portray Muhammad with superior powers are fabricated. Muhammad performed no miracles as he himself admitted in Quran. However there is no reason for anyone to fabricate hadithes that report how Muhammad attacked Keibar, killed the father, husband and many of Safiyah’s relatives and wanted to mount her on the same night when she was still in shock of losing her loved ones. There is no reason for a Muslim to fabricate the fact that he (Muhammad) took possession of Safiyah, because she was the prettiest of all the women captured. But the part that says she came to Muhammad because she knew he was a prophet is, as I explained ridiculous and false. [This message has been edited by kafir4 ever (edited 30 September 2005).] IP: Logged |
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posted 30 September 2005 03:11 PM
quote: For someone who has proven that he doesn't have even the most basic knowledge of the Arabic language (see: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum10/HTML/000675.html ), is not able to give evidence to prove the false claims of facts he is quoting (see below), and is now here proving that he has no idea of the Islamic laws relating to marriage, don't you think you are being a bit pretentious in trying to give explanations of the classical books of Islam??? Islamically (according to the Shari'ah) the walima is o be done after the consummation of a marriage; it is the marriage contract that makes it legal for a man and woman to be alone! newcomer IP: Logged |
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