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dajjal supreme
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posted 19 July 2004 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
You are an established Idiot, and anyone who has participated on this board knows this. You never say anything that relates to the topics being discussed, but all you do is spend the entire day calling people silly names. It is no wonder your ass was REJECTED by NYU. They could tell through your incompetent application process, that they were dealing with an unfit and a mentally retarded individual. Only individuals like yourself, who are messed up in the head, resort to just name calling, rather than putting forward logical arguments. I deal with less than average minded people like yourself as such. You can't simply be ignored, you need to be put in your place! I will gladly make this my task, until you get the mental help you so badly need.

LMAO! You once again proved you are confused individual who is incapable of tasks as simple as reading. My post stated clearly I was rejected by COLUMBIA not NYU you idiot, and my post is not even a comprehension test yet you still were unable to understand it (and don't give me your crap about me being vague cuz your punk ass also was the ONLY one to misinterpret my Al-Qaeda post out of more than 20 replies)

Even if NYU had rejected me it would not have lowered my self-esteem as they have an acceptance rate of lower than 35%, and I am sure a clown like yourself would not have known this.
On a more serious note, you are ALWAYS misinterpreting things. It started with my Al Qaeda post and has been going on ever since. You are simply someone who can't read my friend or you are just an idiot, I personally think your a combination of both.
You call for logic when your dumb ass keeps on changing the words of others (I am now curious to know whether you do it on purpose, or are just so f'ed up that you don't realize it). And you expect people to want to have a meaningful debate with you?

It's time for you to hit the road, you keep on coming back and get proven to be more of an idiot then we previously thought you were.

On the topic of Univs, I bet even the Univ of South Dakota with an acceptance rate of 100%, would reject a clown like yourself.

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posted 19 July 2004 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mokoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't stop it both of you...be a little more civilized and accept your disagreements...you disagree with each other in things...big deal...enough already..


QUOTE]Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
LMAO! You once again proved you are confused individual who is incapable of tasks as simple as reading. My post stated clearly I was rejected by COLUMBIA not NYU you idiot, and my post is not even a comprehension test yet you still were unable to understand it (and don't give me your crap about me being vague cuz your punk ass also was the ONLY one to misinterpret my Al-Qaeda post out of more than 20 replies)

Even if NYU had rejected me it would not have lowered my self-esteem as they have an acceptance rate of lower than 35%, and I am sure a clown like yourself would not have known this.
On a more serious note, you are ALWAYS misinterpreting things. It started with my Al Qaeda post and has been going on ever since. You are simply someone who can't read my friend or you are just an idiot, I personally think your a combination of both.
You call for logic when your dumb ass keeps on changing the words of others (I am now curious to know whether you do it on purpose, or are just so f'ed up that you don't realize it). And you expect people to want to have a meaningful debate with you?

It's time for you to hit the road, you keep on coming back and get proven to be more of an idiot then we previously thought you were.

On the topic of Univs, I bet even the Univ of South Dakota with an acceptance rate of 100%, would reject a clown like yourself.

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posted 19 July 2004 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
LMAO! You once again proved you are confused individual who is incapable of tasks as simple as reading. My post stated clearly I was rejected by not NYU you idiot, and my post is not even a comprehension test yet you still were unable to understand it (and don't give me your crap about me being vague cuz your punk ass also was the ONLY one to misinterpret my Al-Qaeda post out of more than 20 replies)

Even if NYU had rejected me it would not have lowered my self-esteem as they have an acceptance rate of lower than 35%, and I am sure a clown like yourself would not have known this.
On a more serious note, you are ALWAYS misinterpreting things. It started with my Al Qaeda post and has been going on ever since. You are simply someone who can't read my friend or you are just an idiot, I personally think your a combination of both.
You call for logic when your dumb ass keeps on changing the words of others (I am now curious to know whether you do it on purpose, or are just so f'ed up that you don't realize it). And you expect people to want to have a meaningful debate with you?

It's time for you to hit the road, you keep on coming back and get proven to be more of an idiot then we previously thought you were.

On the topic of Univs, I bet even the Univ of South Dakota with an acceptance rate of 100%, would reject a clown like yourself.

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Listen you retarded clown, you punk ass idiot! It doesn't make a difference whether it was NYU or COLUMBIA. YOUR ASS was REJECTED!!! They could tell that you had a feeble mind by the way you presented yourself in the application process. I bet you made the same retarded and silly comments that were not relevant to what you were supposed to provide them, in order to be considered. They could tell from the get go, that you were a jackass and filthy idiot, unfit for civilized education. Any body with adequate self-esteem doesn't just jump at calling people names, just because he/she cannot logically refute someone else's claim. You are the example of a clown, that gives other clowns a bad name. Then you wonder why some people dislike clowns! Mentally retarded people like yourself are even unfit for mental hospitals. You need to be LOCKED in a cage. I will not stop freely discussing on forums, just to satisfy senseless individuals like yourself!

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posted 19 July 2004 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
Listen you retarded clown, you punk ass idiot! It doesn't make a difference whether it was NYU or COLUMBIA. YOUR ASS was REJECTED!!! They could tell that you had a feeble mind by the way you presented yourself in the application process. I bet you made the same retarded and silly comments that were not relevant to what you were supposed to provide them, in order to be considered. They could tell from the get go, that you were a jackass and filthy idiot, unfit for civilized education. Any body with adequate self-esteem doesn't just jump at calling people names, just because he/she cannot logically refute someone else's claim. You are the example of a clown, that gives other clowns a bad name. Then you wonder why some people dislike clowns! Mentally retarded people like yourself are even unfit for mental hospitals. You need to be LOCKED in a cage. I will not stop freely discussing on forums, just to satisfy senseless individuals like yourself!

Do you even know where NYU is located? lol
Anyone who knows a little something about anything will tell an ignoramus like yourself that the extremely selective Columbia univ is one of the top elite univs in the US, it is a member of the Ivy League if you even know what that is. In more simpler terms for a clown like yourself, in every 10 that apply only 1 is accepted.
A large number of students apply to Oxford every year in the UK, are the ones who are rejected incompetent idiots? Only a dumb ass like yourself would think so.
And enough with your fetish with locked cages, bondage and male nurses, sorry but I am unable fulfill your fantasy as I just don't get down like that.

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posted 19 July 2004 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Do you even know where NYU is located? lol
Anyone who knows a little something about anything will tell an ignoramus like yourself that the extremely selective Columbia univ is one of the top elite univs in the US, it is a member of the Ivy League if you even know what that is. In more simpler terms for a clown like yourself, in every 10 that apply only 1 is accepted.
A large number of students apply to Oxford every year in the UK, are the ones who are rejected incompetent idiots? Only a dumb ass like yourself would think so.
And enough with your fetish with locked cages, bondage and male nurses, sorry but I am unable fulfill your fantasy as I just don't get down like that.

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You are truly one psychotic individual. Your retarded ass cannot be accepted even by lowest rated community colleges, and yet you aim for something that is obviously too high for your reach. It is no wonder it took no time for you to be rejected. I bet you don't even know on which continent New York is located, much less name the country or state. Of course, I wouldn't fantasize being in the place of retards like yourself. Being locked in cages, isn't my idea of fun, as it is yours. To call you an idiot, would be a compliment for peanut-sized brain individuals like yourself.

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posted 19 July 2004 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
You are truly one psychotic individual. Your retarded ass cannot be accepted even by lowest rated community colleges, and yet you aim for something that is obviously too high for your reach. It is no wonder it took no time for you to be rejected. I bet you don't even know on which continent New York is located, much less name the country or state. Of course, I wouldn't fantasize being in the place of retards like yourself. Being locked in cages, isn't my idea of fun, as it is yours. To call you an idiot, would be a compliment for peanut-sized brain individuals like yourself.

Blah blah blah...
Always ranting the same old crap...
Lack of creative juices? Dumb ass

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posted 19 July 2004 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Blah blah blah...
Always ranting the same old crap...
Lack of creative juices? Dumb ass

Ran out of words or are these supposed to be the words of some retarded savage beast. Do your retarded ass a favor, and take your daily medication before jumping onto the computer and making senseless comments.

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posted 19 July 2004 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for homeylu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Amun
Let's see. Did I not admit that I may have used the wrong wording?

"Maybe I used the wrong word. Instead of saying some "people" in Africa I should have said some "individuals" in Africa to be more concise."

Unlike you I can admit to my mistakes and move on...


Let's see....

people- more than one individual
individuals- more than one individual

LMAO!!!! Supercar, do you see how hopeless it is to argue with him.

Check this out..

quote:
Originally posted by Amun
I hate generalizations.

Shortly followed by....

quote:
Originally posted by Amun
general statement #1
People from every race and culture do this kind of thing.
general statement # 2
Americans go to southeast Asia and south America to have sex with chidren.
general statement #3
There are people in Africa who think they can be cured of AIDS by having sex with virgins.
Desperate cry for acceptance everytime he f*cks up
As a black American I deal with enough generalizations and stereotypes and I refuse to treat others the same way.

Supercar do you now see why I reminded you how pointless it is to debate with Neo*geo aka Amun. Dude is a living contradiction of himself. Why else would he have 2 I.d.s to match his 2 personalities??? ROFLOL

And how many times to we have to be reminded that he is an "African American" and therefore we should agree with his BS. You should know his style by now.

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posted 19 July 2004 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by homeylu:
Supercar do you now see why I reminded you how pointless it is to debate with Neo*geo aka Amun. Dude is a living contradiction of himself. Why else would he have 2 I.d.s to match his 2 personalities??? ROFLOL

And how many times to we have to be reminded that he is an "African American" and therefore we should agree with his BS. You should know his style by now.


Homeylu, it seems as though you have read my mind. I have come to the same conclusion!

Do you also notice, judging from my very passionate comments, how I just lose it all when I come to this section of the forum. Compare this to my more lively and civilized discussions on the other section (Egyptology). Here, there is no such thing as humanity, dealing with the likes of dajjal supreme, El Kadafi, etc. The moment you disagree or criticize their claims, no matter how civil you put that disagreement, they come back at you with name calling. This is their only defense mechanism. This, they think is supposed to somehow intimidate people into not opposing their views. I know that you've probably noticed this trend...you just can't miss out on it. Guess what, it is time to buckle up, because I will strenuously deal with the likes of dajjalsupreme on the intelligence level they deserve. These are the kind of people you can't use human language to speak with or carry out a discussion...you have to break it down to their language!

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posted 19 July 2004 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ausar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[ Here, there is no such thing as humanity, dealing with the likes of dajjal supreme, El Kadafi, etc. The moment you disagree or criticize their claims, no matter how civil you put that disagreement, they come back at you with name calling.]

When did El Khdafi ever say or do anything that insulted someone? He was rather civlized in most discussions on Egyptsearch. Dajjal supreme is not the same person as El Kadafi. Let's not attack people who are not here to defend themselves.

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posted 19 July 2004 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ausar:
[ Here, there is no such thing as humanity, dealing with the likes of dajjal supreme, El Kadafi, etc. The moment you disagree or criticize their claims, no matter how civil you put that disagreement, they come back at you with name calling.]

When did El Khdafi ever say or do anything that insulted someone? He was rather civlized in most discussions on Egyptsearch. Dajjal supreme is not the same person as El Kadafi. Let's not attack people who are not here to defend themselves.


All you have to do is simply ask me how I came to the conclusion that El Kadafi is a rude poster, instead of insinuating that I am lying or confused! And what I say about these individuals is my business. Why don't you look up the thread titled something like "Should women wear a veil?" Read it thoroughly, and then you'll understand that it is not me, who is having the hallucinations!

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posted 19 July 2004 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
Ran out of words or are these supposed to be the words of some retarded savage beast. Do your retarded ass a favor, and take your daily medication before jumping onto the computer and making senseless comments.

Ran out of words?!?!? You're the clown who acts as a verbal form of a mirror. All your dumb ass does is reiterate what I tell you with slight changes, I ask you if you know where NYU use is and your dumb ass asks me if I know where NY is, so on and so forth.
You and your double IQ is getting you no where, for once stop copying everything I say.

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posted 19 July 2004 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
All you have to do is simply ask me how I came to the conclusion that El Kadafi is a rude poster, instead of insinuating that I am lying or confused! And what I say about these individuals is my business. Why don't you look up the thread titled something like "Should women wear a veil?" Read it thoroughly, and then you'll understand that it is not me, who is having the hallucinations!


Yeah and tell them also to read the post titled 'South Korean beheaded by Al-qaeda' just to prove how idiotic you are.

And who can take the words of Ausar seriously anyway? This hypocrite is ready to jump at people for insulting an individual while he finds it acceptable for himself to insult an entire race by making generalized statements. In that sense he is similar to you supercar, as your both hypocritical bastards.

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posted 19 July 2004 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Ran out of words?!?!? You're the clown who acts as a verbal form of a mirror. All your dumb ass does is reiterate what I tell you with slight changes, I ask you if you know where NYU use is and your dumb ass asks me if I know where NY is, so on and so forth.
You and your double IQ is getting you no where, for once stop copying everything I say.

Who let you out of your cage, you ignorant baboon! Go back to your medication before you jump onto the computer to make a fool of yourself, dumb ass.

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posted 19 July 2004 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted 19 July 2004 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
Who let you out of your cage, you ignorant baboon! Go back to your medication before you jump onto the computer to make a fool of yourself, dumb ass.

Again repeating yourself...*sigh*
You and your homosexual fetish of men in cages is wearing me out.

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posted 19 July 2004 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Yeah and tell them also to read the post titled 'South Korean beheaded by Al-qaeda' just to prove how idiotic you are.

And who can take the words of Ausar seriously anyway? This hypocrite is ready to jump at people for insulting an individual while he finds it acceptable for himself to insult an entire race by making generalized statements. In that sense he is similar to you supercar, as your both hypocritical bastards.


You ignorant piece of crap! You truely belong in the ZOO. Even village schools in Egypt or elsewhere in Africa, wouldn't consider a retarded, pig-headed bastard like yourself. Go back to your cage, where you can do no harm to yourself!

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posted 19 July 2004 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
You ignorant piece of crap! You truely belong in the ZOO. Even village schools in Egypt or elsewhere in Africa, wouldn't consider a retarded, pig-headed bastard like yourself. Go back to you back to your cage, where you can do no harm to yourself!


Let's see which words are popular with Super car :
ass + doctors at hospitals + cages + tied up men = homosexual fetish
F*** off for the last time, I am not one of your kind.

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posted 19 July 2004 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Again repeating yourself...*sigh*
You and your homosexual fetish of men in cages is wearing me out.

So now the mentally retarded person that you are, you are beginning to have hallucinations about flurting with other male members over the internet! You are turning deeply homosexual, and you know how dangerous that can be in Egypt. This is why I urged you to go back to your cage, because you could end up in a real jail, a piece of dump! But again, that is exactly what suits your lifestyle.

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posted 19 July 2004 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Let's see which words are popular with Super car :
ass + doctors at hospitals + cages + tied up men = homosexual fetish
F*** off for the last time, I am not one of your kind.


You need to f*** off, and get a life! Go back to your urine infested cage and stop making a total fool of yourself over the internet.

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posted 19 July 2004 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
You need to f*** off, and get a life! Go back to your urine infested cage and stop making a total fool of yourself over the internet.


Unlike yourself the internet to me is just that, the internet. My 'net rep' does not matter to me but to a recluse like you it must play a siginificant role in your life as it is only when your online can you contact humanity. Yet I am sure you didn't expect to get ridiculed online as well. But hey, at least your favorite all male websites won't ridicule you

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posted 19 July 2004 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Unlike yourself the internet to me is just that, the internet. My 'net rep' does not matter to me but to a recluse like you it must play a siginificant role in your life as it is only when your online can you contact humanity. Yet I am sure you didn't expect to get ridiculed online as well. But hey, at least your favorite all male websites won't ridicule you

It is apparent that the way go ranting on and on with only name calling, that you don't have a mental capacity to do any better. Obviously these rude words are the only ones available in your vocabulary. Hence, the need for me to use them back at you, as some primitive form of language that you can understand! This pretty much sums up your life. You think that constantly ranting over the net, somehow makes up for your low self-esteem. But that is not the case, you are an outcaste wherever you appear!

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posted 20 July 2004 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
the need for me to use them back at you, as some primitive form of language that you can understand! !

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Why do you 'need' to use them back at me? You have a choice to use or not use them yet chose to use them, not that I care but just another point that indicates you're a bit f'ed in the head.

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posted 20 July 2004 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supercar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
Originally posted by supercar:
[b] the need for me to use them back at you, as some primitive form of language that you can understand! !

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Why do you 'need' to use them back at me? You have a choice to use or not use them yet chose to use them, not that I care but just another point that indicates you're a bit f'ed in the head.


Barbarians only understand their barbarian language. As such, I have to use such language to get through to you. I don't have a choice in that matter! If only you spoke civilized human language, maybe then I will have a choice of a wider range of meaningful words to use.

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posted 20 July 2004 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keino     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
Barbarians only understand their barbarian language. As such, I have to use such language to get through to you. I don't have a choice in that matter! If only you spoke civilized human language, maybe then I will have a choice of a wider range of meaningful words to use.

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Come on people of african descent, lets be civil. Where is the love? LMAO

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posted 21 July 2004 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dajjal supreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by supercar:
Barbarians only understand their barbarian language. As such, I have to use such language to get through to you. I don't have a choice in that matter! If only you spoke civilized human language, maybe then I will have a choice of a wider range of meaningful words to use.

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Err... you're lame.

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Originally posted by dajjal supreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by supercar:
[b] Barbarians only understand their barbarian language. As such, I have to use such language to get through to you. I don't have a choice in that matter! If only you spoke civilized human language, maybe then I will have a choice of a wider range of meaningful words to use.

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Err... you're lame.[/B][/QUOTE]

You are feeble minded or mentally handicapped!

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Originally posted by Mokoo:

Kimo you get hung up on salvery and kept going on and on about it while you failed to answer the most impotant interesting part of "homely"'s posting, and who are you calling African Americans anyway...I know I'm not one...Be a stud and answer this ...


[b]"didn't their prophet muhammad marry a 6 year old girl named Aisha when he was 49 and consummated the marriage with sex by the time she was 9???? I heard they have a tradition of marrying girls after their first menstrual cycle. So if their prophet did this type of stuff and this is who they look up to, then maybe that's how they justify some of their acts.


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http://www.ummah.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-16728.html

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Is the above quote true? I have only just seen it. ElMagnoon, thank you for copying it so that it can be re-read. Did Mohammed (pbuh) really do that?

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Is the above quote true? I have only just seen it. ElMagnoon, thank you for copying it so that it can be re-read. Did Mohammed (pbuh) really do that?





Ayesha the Child Wife of Muhammad

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The thought of an old man becoming aroused by a child is one of the most disturbing thoughts that makes us cringe as it reminds us of pedophilia and the most despicable people. It is difficult to accept that the Holy Prophet married Ayesha when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.


Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

Arabs were a primitive lot with little rules to abide. Yet they had some code of ethics that they honored scrupulously. For example, although they fought all the year round, they abstained from hostilities during certain holy months of the year. They also considered Mecca to be a holy city and did not make war against it. A adopted son’s wife was deemed to be a daughter in law and they would not marry her. Also it was customary that close friends made a pact of brotherhood and considered each other as true brothers. The Prophet disregarded all of these rules anytime they stood between him and his interests or whims.

Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.

But this moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.
Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece (brother's daughter). "

Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Ayesha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.

In the following Hadith he confided to Ahesha that he had dreamed of her before soliciting her from her father.

Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' Then you were shown to me, the angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said (to him), 'Uncover (her), and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.' "

Whether Muhammad had actually such dream or he just said it to please Ayesha is not the point. What matters here is that it indicates that Ayesaha was a baby being “carried” by an angel when the Prophet dreamed of her.

There are numerous hadithes that explicitly reveal the age of Ayesha at the time of her marriage. Here are some of them.

Sahih Bukhari 5.236.
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari 5.234
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

And in another Hadith we read.

Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4916 and Number 4917
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.

In the above hadith we read that Ayesha was swinging, This is a play of little girls not grown up people. The following Hadith is particularly interesting because it shows that Ayesha was so small that was not aware what was going on when the Holy Prophet “surprised” her by going to her.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 90
Narrated Aisha:
When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon.


Must have been quite a surprise! But the following is also interesting because it demonstrates that she was just a kid playing with her dolls. Pay attention to what the interpreter wrote in the parenthesis. (She was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)


Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

The holy Prophet died when he was 63. So he must have married Ayesha when he as 51 and went to her when he was 54.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 33
Narrated 'Aisha:
I never felt so jealous of any woman as I did of Khadija, though she had died three years before the Prophet married me, and that was because I heard him mentioning her too often, and because his Lord had ordered him to give her the glad tidings that she would have a palace in Paradise, made of Qasab and because he used to slaughter a sheep and distribute its meat among her friends.


Khadija died in December of 619 AD. That is two years before Hijra. At that time the Prophet was 51-years-old. So in the same year that Khadija died the prophet married Ayesha and took her to his home 3 years later, i.e. one year after Hijra. But until she grow up he married Umm Salama.

In another part Ayesha claims that as long as she remembers her parents were always Muslims.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 245

Narrated 'Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) I never remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam),

If Ayesha was older i.e. 16 or 18 as some Muslims claim, she would have remembered the religion of her parents prior to becoming Muslims.

Now someone may still claim that all these hadithes are lies. People are free to say whatever they want. But truth is clear like the Sun for those who have eyes.

No sane person would be aroused by a 9-year-old child. Decent people wince at the thought of this shameful act. Yet some Muslims deny them. The question is why so many followers of Muhammad would fabricate so many false hadithes about the age of Ayisha, which incidentally confirm each other?

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Originally posted by Luxorlover:
Is the above quote true? I have only just seen it. ElMagnoon, thank you for copying it so that it can be re-read. Did Mohammed (pbuh) really do that?

Are you asking me to state for a fact? I obviously can't do that.I've researched this question a few times and eventualy run out of time or forget about it.
I must say I have never had a chance to ask a knowledgable and reliable source yet.
I will do that in the next couple of days.

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I challenge the SHIKHS of Islam to find a proper answer to this one...


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Originally posted by elmagnoon:
Are you asking me to state for a fact? I obviously can't do that.I've researched this question a few times and eventualy run out of time or forget about it.
I must say I have never had a chance to ask a knowledgable and reliable source yet.
I will do that in the next couple of days.


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i think it may take longer than a couple of life times, not just a cpl of days...

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