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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
Recently I had a chance to meet a doctor who works at one of the most eligible and expensive cosmetic surgeries clinic in Dubai. I was going for my facial there and as usual recognized most of the females there as members of the "Dubai social life"! But they all go incognito, they pretend to be someone else. He told me that in May and June he didn't even go home before 1am on daily basis and worked 7 days a week, continuous surgeries. It's the BONUS time in Dubai. Girls take the bonus and run for improvements. He said most of the girls -doesn't matter where from- invest their money in nose jobs or boobs jobs...it's the weakness of females nowadays. Now, I ve come across men who dont really care abt the reality of what lies between their hands. But do u guys care? IP: Logged |
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Snoozin Member Posts: 1277 |
quote: I'm a female with a very imperfect body. If someone is a total outlier, though, like *no* breasts, or breasts that are way too big they can actually cause health problems, then I think they are good candidates for this. But bottom line, it's major surgery with all the inherent risks! IP: Logged |
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Tigerlily Member Posts: 2072 |
I totally agree with you, Snoozin, all these beauty enhancements are risky and expensive surgeries. And think about any plastic surgery you might have makes you look different, its not anymore what nature gave you in the beginning. But I fully support plastic surgery on people who lost parts of their face or other areas to an accident. It surely gives them some self-esteem back. [This message has been edited by Tigerlily (edited 21 September 2005).] IP: Logged |
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Kamal211 Member Posts: 189 |
I think cosmetic surgery is disgusting. And ladies [and men] who do it [memebers "social life" ]shows how much love they have for this world, all the materialistic values. Those people tend to have a personailty problem to. Maybe this is the reason why they do it, they cannot attract peoples heart, so instead they play with the others whim/desire. And to what standard [if any] are they trying to meet? Is the Standard D or E? What is the standard lenght and width for the nose? If only people can be patient and wait for Jannah then they would know and have the perfect standard. IP: Logged |
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Valerie Member Posts: 139 |
And girls, would u waste yr lifetime savings to look better? To cover yr insecurities? And do u think ur lives would change much if u have a perfect nose or a perfect cup D?
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
quote: Ive had a flatmate when i first came to Dubai who used to cry-in real tears- every morning bcz of the no breasts issue. Kamal, I agree with u ..Standards of beauty change everyday. Nowadays it's the Angelina jolie lips..what's next!! and u r right abt the fact that the problem isnt a big nose or a cup A. I used to tell my flatmate, ur problem is that u were never loved! But this is how god created mankind!! We always try to cover our insecurities one way or another...ah well rabena yostor. [This message has been edited by ngeg (edited 21 September 2005).] IP: Logged |
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Leila Member Posts: 115 |
I think it is very superficial.. we all want to look good but i think we just need to make the most of the assets we have been given naturally. There are women that actually get addicted to plastic surgery because they feel it will make them more confident and solve all their problems.. but ofcourse it never does so they just keep going back until they end up looking more like michael jackson than elle mcpherson. Self confidence should not be tied to self image...you can fix the outside all you like but if you don’t work on the inside you will never be happy. IP: Logged |
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sonomod Member Posts: 2358 |
So it happens in the the Mid-East as much as the west! So what! For all my troubles, at least I managed to recieve really good DNA and assets from my family. I'd never waste money on the practice. Though I know many middle-class housewives who have. Its epidemic here. IP: Logged |
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7aya Member Posts: 1030 |
you know my best friend is a model, and she had a boob and a nose job. and wallahi she looked more beautiful before! i mean yeah she had small breasts but the rest of her body was perfect! as for her nose it was amazing there was ABSOLUTLY nothing wrong with it! and whats driving me nuts, is that she is encouraging everyone to do it! and mind you she is a very convincng person, she has already made two other girls have a liposuction, and a nose job! i think it is very superficial, and is spreading in the arab world like fire. it hit lebanon first, and now its hitting the egyptian upper class, the ones who can afford this! what's really driving me nuts is that all the stars especially the lebanese ones have had surgery, and when they are asked for their opinion on plastic surgery, they say well we are totally for it, and we encourage every girl to do it! i mean what kind of role models are they to arab girls? these people should be symbols of arab beauty, and they should say that every woman is beautiful, not the if you are not beautiful you should have a surgery tune they are singing! i think plastic surgery is for people who really need it, like those who had a broken nose, or maybe had burns. it really bothers me when i see normal girls have surgery, but for people who really need it its ineffective. its so sad. like for this poor girl. http://www.duihope.org/burned_alive_by_a_drunk_driver.html. i had nightmares for months after i read her story, it breaks my heart that she suffers so much! thats why i get so angry when i see average people complaining about their looks! my kingdom what do you think? your husband is a plastic surgoun right? what does he think about this? IP: Logged |
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Heavens-Mirror Junior Member Posts: 14 |
Hehehe i dont need a boob job so no, theres no need to waste money on it! Plus fake boobs look terrible anyway! Whats wrong with "natural" these days IP: Logged |
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someone_lost Member Posts: 203 |
quote: its depend on the "natural" IP: Logged |
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sonomod Member Posts: 2358 |
quote: From what I hear they are funner to grab and squeeze when real! IP: Logged |
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Snoozin Member Posts: 1277 |
quote: I was never really against plastic surgery itself, but it's becoming so widespread in the US that it's truly starting to impact how normal-looking women view themselves. And unfortunately how men view them. We have shows like *Extreme Makeover* where (mostly) women get plastic surgery done on their faces, their necks, liposuction on thighs, butt, arms, tummy tucks, boob jobs. They also get new teeth, or outrageously whitened teeth that blind you, and the lasik eye surgery so they don't have to get glasses. Then they get new hairstyles, and new makeup. They look *entirely* different. Like models now. It's just upping the standard of beauty to something nobody without $$$ can attain. And why? God made us the way were are for a reason. I'm all for trying to take care of what you've got, but to significantly change who you are???? I just don't get it. IP: Logged |
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someone_lost Member Posts: 203 |
quote: "wallahy momken" may be but you can't say until you try it your self IP: Logged |
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7aya Member Posts: 1030 |
quote: yeah i was just reading about this woman who commit suicide because of this program. IP: Logged |
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MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari Member Posts: 636 |
OMG folks listen to this story. My husband has a private clinic for plastic surgery. Everyday he gets all kinds of patients. Some are very ugly and think they can simply undergo some (hundred thousand) operations to end up looking like Heidi Klum, others are having some flaws that could (not) be corrected, and some are totally gorgeous but still are not satisfied and still want perfection.. But I'm telling you, there are loads of psychos among them. So this is the story about a patient, let's call him Ricardo (simply becasue his name *is* Ricardo My husband sent Ricardo away so that Ricardo would give the idea some rethinking. Ricardo kept coming back and begging with tears in his eyes. Ricardo always thought: "Girls don't care cos I don't have hair". Ricardo's mom called and begged. "My boy is gonna die of sadness", she said. "Please help my baby or he's gonna go crazy", she cried.. "I'll give you all I have if you could make my son happy." So my husband treated him. The operation was "successful". Ricardo got the hair he wanted, but, of course, Ricardo never got the girl he wanted.. Ricardo stalked my husband day and night, called on the phone sounding drunk and devastated, crying that it was my husband's fault that the girls didn't like him back..That's why, as a punishment to my husband, Ricardo pulled his own hair out, one by one, to protest on my husband's failure to get him girls.. My husband was sad for Ricardo. He was never angry at him. He was just very sad for him. He said he knew which course Ricardo's life might take if he didn't get therapy for what he described as depression and BDD.. One day Ricardo stopped calling. He just never called anymore. A week later I said to my husband: "Hey, Ricardo stopped calling". My husband said: "I hope he's in therapy now". Some weeks later we were watching T.V. Just zapping channels as a normal bored couple would do. Suddenly we saw him there, on the screen, staring back at us. I screamed: "Stop, that's Ricardo". It was a program about missing people whose families can report them for the world to seek. It was a picture of Ricardo and a message from his mom: "Please come back to me my baby". Days later, they found Ricardo, hanging from the neck on a rope tied to a big lonely tree.. IP: Logged |
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MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari Member Posts: 636 |
quote: Telepathy again? Are you also, like Misfit, ME?! IP: Logged |
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Snoozin Member Posts: 1277 |
quote: God that is AWFUL!!!! IP: Logged |
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someone_lost Member Posts: 203 |
quote: Dont you have better story .we always excpect happy end . IP: Logged |
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Heavens-Mirror Junior Member Posts: 14 |
That is a very moving story, i really feel for him. IP: Logged |
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
Sonomod, There s more plastic surgeries going on in the middle east than you might imagine. Like 7aya, I have loads of egyptian and other Arab friends who went crazy with the trend. It's becoming relatively cheap and like 7aya said, with all the stylish lebanese actresses and singers opting for cosmetic surgeries youngsters follow with full speed. IP: Logged |
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
7aya, Did yr friend get it done in Egypt? I had a khaliji colleague who went for liposuction in one of the "mohandessin" clinics, sarah, sandra, lina..u know these beauty salons turning into amateur cosmetic surgeries clinics. Her wounds didn't heal for a year!! A whole year!! And yes she lost weight, but bcz of the infection! Do these salons/clincs still exist? It's been over 5 yrs since that incident and I have no idea how the cosmetic surgery industry is doing in Egypt.. Lately Ive heard of some british-australian neighbours going to a famous Egyptian surgeon in Dokki for nose jobs! He's faaaaaaaaaaaar more expensive than the lebanese but apprently he managed to attarct customers from all over the world. Snoozin: Extreme makeover and the Swan are the biggest shows in Dubai, even more popular now than the legendary oprah! Ya someone..eh 7ekayatak? ba2et sha22i awi!! IP: Logged |
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Snoozin Member Posts: 1277 |
quote: Oh, that's depressing! What do people think of Americans if what they see are shows like that!??! IP: Logged |
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
My kingdom: This is so sad, I want to pull my hair out and give it to ricardo! or email him! Or introduce him to my flatmates with plastic boobs...she's crazy too! They d ve been a couple made in heaven. I wish there was sth to help these ppl.. This is sad begad! IP: Logged |
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7aya Member Posts: 1030 |
oh my god my kingdom that is such a sad story! poor ricardo! when i was three years old, i was playing near my grandmother dog, and fell right into his plate. ofcourse the dog thinking that i'm going to eat his food, bit me really bad in the face! my mom rushed me to the hospital and the doctor told her that my wound is deep and needs stitching, but he won't do it because it will leave a bad scar.but if he doesnt stitch, the scar will still be there, but not as bad. so anyway the wound heals but leaves a barely there scare. however ofcourse the kids in school dont leave me alone and call me "scarface." whenever i went home crying to my mom, she would tell me that my grandma promised to pay for my surgery because it was her dog that bit me, but i have to wait until i'm old enough. and to be quiet honest i was really looking forward to have my scar removed! however, when i went to university no one noticed it, NO ONE. and when i looked in the mirror, i had to look really closesly in order to see it! sometimes i even forget which cheek its on! the point is, people will always find something wrong with you. they can magnify a fault that is barely there or even nonexistant. so every person should be confident and not listen to other people, and accept the beauty god gave them! elhamdullelah for everything ![]() IP: Logged |
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
quote: They think all americans are slim and pretty.. and that the few unlucky ones are saved by wonderful shows like that. IP: Logged |
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7aya Member Posts: 1030 |
quote: yeah they closed a bunch of these clinics last year. but i bet there are still many functioning IP: Logged |
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someone_lost Member Posts: 203 |
Ya someone..eh 7ekayatak? ba2et sha22i awi!![/B][/QUOTE] "wallahy mosh 2asdy haga bas 2a3ed fady " IP: Logged |
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MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari Member Posts: 636 |
quote: My husband sends more than half of his patients to see a shrink before their next appointment with him. He refuses to treat many people, and still, he performs 2 operations per day, 6 days a week. Amazing how many people on this earth are unhappy with themselves.. I could tell you another horror story, but Someone_ Lost hates unhappy endings, so I'll save you that one.. On the other hand, treating people like burn-victims is very rewarding indeed. In the new year's eve of 2001, a couple of hundred young people were grilled, some to death, in a disco fire in Holland. Some are now so burnt beyond recognition. But my husband managed to treat some of them to look maybe 10% better, which made loads of a difference for them. Can we all be thankful for a minute? Thank you. IP: Logged |
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MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari Member Posts: 636 |
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
quote: Aiwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..My god, I remember ppl who didn't watch Knots landing were retards! hehehehe, wana kont fakra ill go to america ba2a and meet ppl like Richard and Lance!! And all I saw was a bunch of normal ppl who don't have specific features, style,accent..they were so normal it was shocking! IP: Logged |
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Tigerlily Member Posts: 2072 |
Wow, I read your story, Kingdom. That Ricardo had definitely more problems than his hair issue. And he called your husband at home many times? Gosh, your hubby really needs to be careful not to be too nice and too personal with his patients. It could backfire on him. Now come on, you must have had some surgery done already "in the name of beauty"? Having a husband like that next to you? I think it would be tempting..... IP: Logged |
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sonomod Member Posts: 2358 |
quote: I have tits, I have felt them myself along with a host of other entertained people, I get feedback! (Once upon a time) [This message has been edited by sonomod (edited 21 September 2005).] IP: Logged |
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Tigerlily Member Posts: 2072 |
I have only small boobs, well during pregnancy they always become a cup bigger but "shrink" afterwards again. I usually use push-up-bras, I could not imagine to get a breast enlargement done, I am not that vain. ![]() My school friend inheritated large breasts from her mother and up until today she feels rather shy and uncomforable with them. She always tries to hide them in dark and baggy shirts. She said many times that its really annoying because the guys are looking at her tits rather at her face at first...... IP: Logged |
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Paint Me As I Am Member Posts: 483 |
Best to stay natural.. A few of the girls i work with did the Breast Implants and they have said that they have to have it re-done after so many years "leakage". sounds like a lot of surgerys to keep up with.. Jannah IP: Logged |
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
I can spot fake boobs from meters away! Since I have seen too many! And u know how girls like showing off, after each surgery I get one of the neighbours stripping to show me how they look! (And trust me they look like SHINY plastic tomatoes)! The funny thing is, two of my friends have been married for 2-3 yrs and the husbands had no idea!!! Men are such geeks! IP: Logged |
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Dalia Member Posts: 1032 |
quote: Who says only big breasts are beautiful? Tastes vary, alhamdullilah. IP: Logged |
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someone_lost Member Posts: 203 |
quote: of course they belive anything they see POOR MENS IP: Logged |
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someone_lost Member Posts: 203 |
quote: of course they belive anything they see POOR MENS IP: Logged |
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ngeg Member Posts: 719 |
quote: La2 ya someone, Im saying they have been married for 2 -3 years and their husbands couldnt tell they were basically holding fakes!!!!! IP: Logged |
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Serendipity Member Posts: 1180 |
Very good topic ngeg..wanted to post a topic like that myself. I am far from perfect,dont like my big eyes nor my round face.But I would never in any circumstances go under the knife! In the end I would ask you all a question, IP: Logged |
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MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari Member Posts: 636 |
quote: For what I looked like IP: Logged |
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Snoozin Member Posts: 1277 |
quote: You know how many people would die for big beautiful eyes?? I personally think almost every human is attractive in some regard. And when they are genuinely nice people, it radiates and makes them beautiful. IP: Logged |
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7aya Member Posts: 1030 |
quote: oops sorry no thats not what i meant, i think i wasn't clear. i just meant that she felt that her small breasts were a problem. but i didn't! IP: Logged |
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MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari Member Posts: 636 |
quote: "Tempting" is a small word. We actually *live* in the clinic. So what would you do if you were in my shoes, when all I need to do in order to get any operation I want done for free on me is to shake my ass down the stairs? Cool huh? Well strange enough, although I wouldn't mind having surgery done, I just think I don't need any right now. I've been (too) skinny all my life, then I was very sporty, so I got some muscles, then I gained some weight after the baby. I still need to lose 5 kg, and I know it's better to diet than to liposuck them. I *will* get stuff done. A nip here and a tuck there, or a boob here (and hopefully also a boob there!), just when I believe I need it. Have you seen what Nagwa Fouad now looks like? Now that's a lesson for us women!! IP: Logged |
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Leila Member Posts: 115 |
quote: i totally agree with this, i have friends that are not necessarily the most beautiful but always have a lot of men interested in them because they are such nice people who are happy with themselves.. i believe it is this inner confidence that shines out and which makes people really attractive. On the other hand i have a friend that does modeling, she is stunning but sadly she is is so insecure and unhappy with herself it just turns people away after a while. IP: Logged |
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Snoozin Member Posts: 1277 |
quote: LOL! When I was in college, my roommate was 6 feet tall, absolutely gorgeous, and dumb as a doorknob. Not only that, but she was shallow and mean. She had modelling contracts all over the place, and I think even today she's working in LA. But she was *desperate* to lose her virginity while we were in college. She could always get the cute guys....but after she talked to them a bit, they were bored out of their minds....and always left. I can't tell you how many guys literally *ran* out of her room in the dorms! I have never met a girl who tried so hard to get a guy to sleep with her, yet still remained a virgin by the time she graduated from college. IP: Logged |
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Habiba1 Member Posts: 75 |
TMI according other half ![]() [This message has been edited by Habiba1 (edited 24 September 2005).] IP: Logged |
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Tigerlily Member Posts: 2072 |
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Kingdom, but do you know the following celebrity who turned from beautiful into a female "Frankenstein"? Be careful when opening the link - it looks horrible! [This message has been edited by Tigerlily (edited 23 September 2005).] IP: Logged |
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Tigerlily Member Posts: 2072 |
Come, Kingdom, tell me about Nagwa Fouad. And since you are married to a plastic surgeon I better become a dear friend to you because I might need some services at a later point in life. You are right, never say never to nip and tuck..... [This message has been edited by Tigerlily (edited 24 September 2005).] IP: Logged |
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