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esposible Member Posts: 73 |
posted 15 October 2003 01:54 PM
Could a regular egyptian soldier in the army be able to marry a foreigner? I read that a man serving in the army cannot marry a foreigner. Also what is this orfi that everyone keeps mentioning in this site? [This message has been edited by esposible (edited 23 July 2005).] IP: Logged |
Monica Member Posts: 2385 |
posted 15 October 2003 04:39 PM
Hello there, a quick reply for you; - orfi is NOT a recognized marriage, it is only a way not to be 'annoyed' in Egypt when you are spending time behind closed doors with someone, somewhere. - a soldier or an officer does NOT have the right to marry a foreigner. best regards, Monica
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ExptinCAI Member Posts: 951 |
posted 16 October 2003 04:16 AM
i was told by a friend who's an officer, who know of one case...this guy married a foreigner, the army told him you have to divorce her. he would not, so he was released from service. i don't know whether that's "kicked out" or not, but i imagine it's a gentle kicking. he was breaking the rules, so i don't see how it could be an honorable discharge. IP: Logged |
akshar Member Posts: 1485 |
posted 16 October 2003 11:57 AM
Another misconception about ORFI. I am married Orfi. On production of my marriage certificate I get discount on Egypt Air and I don't need a visa to get into the country. I think we can call that recognition. It just doesn't carry the same status. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Shepenwepet Member Posts: 33 |
posted 16 October 2003 03:15 PM
Can anybody explain to me where the term 'Orfi marriage' comes from? I fully understand its meaning but I've never heard the word used in Egypt or anywhere before I visited this board. I'm just curious! IP: Logged |
newcomer Member Posts: 1101 |
posted 16 October 2003 04:42 PM
As far as I know it somes from the Arabic word 'urf, which means custom, convention, tradition, practice; i.e. meaning that it was a customary form of marriage rather than a legal or religious one initially. IP: Logged |
esposible Member Posts: 73 |
posted 16 October 2003 05:30 PM
If a guy is called to go to army, even though he doesn't want to, is that the regular army? How long does one have to serve usually? Also if a man married a foreigner would that exempt him from army? I mean if a soldier is not allowed (has no 'right') to marry a foreigner, but he still married one, wouldn't that mean that by default he will be exempt? Would he be able to marry her in Egypt or only outside of Egypt? Can a man who hasn't done the army EVEN travel outside of Egypt? [This message has been edited by esposible (edited 23 July 2005).] IP: Logged |
ExptinCAI Member Posts: 951 |
posted 17 October 2003 03:22 AM
you're not talking about regular army, then. you're talking about mandatory military service, which is typically 1 year...or you have the option of becoming an officer and doing it for 3 yrs, and getting assigned something closer to what you studied in college, etc. the rules are different. everybody has to do mandatory service (in theory) but as you can see from your friend, there's always lots of schemes cooking up in how to try to get out of it. there's lots and lots of circumstances in the scenario you give, so i don't think you're going to get a straight answer. if he left the country to marry her, he would be excused...but you can't leave the country until you get permission from army wt the visa, and (unless a student) they usually won't give you permission until you completed your military service... who knows. the rules for mandatory military service are some of the funniest i've heard of...like..you're excused if you're an only son, but not until your father reaches a certain age (like 50s or 60s) so that they are sure you ARE the only son. if your mom dies, doesn't excuse you, as your dad can always remarry and have another boy. LOL. [This message has been edited by ExptinCAI (edited 17 October 2003).] IP: Logged |
coloreen Member Posts: 84 |
posted 17 October 2003 08:05 AM
quote: funny you say that, I have actually never heard this word either all thourough the two years I lived in egypt. IP: Logged |
esposible Member Posts: 73 |
posted 17 October 2003 08:21 AM
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ExptinCAI Member Posts: 951 |
posted 17 October 2003 11:24 AM
regular army means you're a professional soldier, where you choose to go into the military. mandatory is like the reserves...every male citizen needs to do it for a year, so that in case of a war when they draft citizens (not professional soldiers), those citizens are trained for combat. IP: Logged |
momo_bone Junior Member Posts: 16 |
posted 27 October 2003 09:31 AM
so is that those guys in military college or in military officer cant marry with foreigner? IP: Logged |
holty Junior Member Posts: 10 |
posted 10 November 2003 01:10 PM
can anyone help me i have a marriage paper that in written in egyptian i need this transalting i can email this please help me ????? IP: Logged |
aischa Member Posts: 131 |
posted 10 November 2003 04:52 PM
Hi dear, is this a paper for an ORFI-marriage? Normally, those papers /contracts are made in english and arabic? Did you sign it before you know what is written in? Well, if you have sign it I will try to help you. give me your e-mail-address pls. from aischa with love quote: IP: Logged |
Hiya Junior Member Posts: 4 |
posted 16 November 2003 09:11 PM
Hi, I think you should approach the local authorities and ask, because although military people are not allowed to marry foreigners in Egypt and elsewhere as well, I think. There are some exceptions upon submitting an application form.
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BeachGirl4 Junior Member Posts: 11 |
posted 30 November 2003 07:25 PM
I was just wondering, what are some of the ways you can get out of the mandatory army? My boyfriend says he has no choice but to go this year and we dont want him to. I'm from the US and we really dont want to get married just for this reason, theres got to be something! And if he did get out for some reason, would he be able to get a visa to come over here? Or if he did have to go, is it for sure that it would only be one year? Sorry for all the questions, thanks!!! IP: Logged |
Monica Member Posts: 2385 |
posted 30 November 2003 07:59 PM
If you call the nearest Egyptian Embassy/Consulate in the US, you will have the most accurate answer. Best wishes
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