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multisphinx
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posted 18 February 2005 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for multisphinx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am just wondering if any of todays foods are prehistoric that passed from the AE. Some egyptian foods like koshiri, makarona bishamil, gholash, kofta, etc...

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posted 18 February 2005 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ABAZA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did Ancient Egyptians Eat?


Poor people ate bread, cheese, beans and salad and drank water. Adults ate their food sitting on simple stools. They also ate beef, pork, antelope and hyena meat as well as goose, pigeon and fish from the Nile. Wealthier people had more varied diets. Most farming families ate fairly simple food.


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posted 18 February 2005 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ABAZA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ANCIENT NILE'S
ANCIENT EGYPTIAN RECIPES
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EGYPTIAN RECIPE:
There is little evidence to draw upon regarding Ancient Egyptian recipes, as it would appear that they did not consider it necessary to write them down. Scholars tend to rely on paintings that show feasting and celebratory scenes, such as those found in tombs.

Although the ancient people did not appear to use cookbooks, the ingredients needed to make most of the dishes are well known, many of which are still used in Egypt today.

For example Ful Medames is the national dish of Egypt and probably dates as far back as the Pharaonic periods. It would have commonly been eaten with bread, lentils, raw vegetables and eggs. Tiger Nut Sweets is one of the oldest recipes known and was actually found written on ostraca. ( Piece of clay with writing on it) And Hummus is as popular in Egypt today as it probably was thousands of years ago.

FUL MEDAMES

11/2lb dried ful or fava beans
(Can substitute with broad beans if unable to obtain above)

2-4 crushed cloves of garlic


Soak beans for 12 hours, put in pan, cover with fresh water, boil, simmer until tender. (Time depends on dryness of beans) Drain and add crushed garlic. Season and serve hot. Nice served with eggs.

TIGER NUT SWEETS

200g of fresh dates are blended with a little water. Then add a little cinnamon and chopped walnuts to taste. Shape into balls, coat in honey, ground almonds and serve.

LEAVEN

Taking a small quantity of barley flour mix it with warm water and make a dough shaped into a round mound. Indent in the centre, approximately half the way through, and mark it with a cross using a knife. Place the dough on a plate and fill the dent with water. Leave this in a warm place for a few days to ferment and the dough will split open like a overripe fruit. The dough is then ready to use as yeast to make bread.

HUMMUS

225g chickpeas

2 tbs. of wine vinegar

3 cloves of garlic

5 tbs. sesame seed oil

1 tsp. salt


Cook and mash the chickpeas, add lemon juice, chopped garlic and sesame seed oil to make this tasty paste to spread on bread, as popular in Egypt today as it was thousands of years ago.

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ABAZA
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posted 18 February 2005 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ABAZA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most of those dishes you mention are Middle Eastern and Turkish.

Ful-Medammes and bread is probably from the times of the ancient egyptians.


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Originally posted by multisphinx:
I am just wondering if any of todays foods are prehistoric that passed from the AE. Some egyptian foods like koshiri, makarona bishamil, gholash, kofta, etc...

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posted 18 February 2005 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wally     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From 05 November 2004....

It's for certain that the Kememu, like everyone else, enjoyed a good meal as well as a good drink to wash it down. But where you were on the socio-economic ladder determined just how much and how well you would eat or drink ( a sampling )...
Poor Folk's Diet
Fish - usually smoked or dried
Bread (lots of it!) - leavened barley or wheat
Beer - usually the barley brew
Garlic
Onions - Part of the payment to the workers who built the great pyramids was in Garlic and Onions.
Leeks
Other home grown veggies (eg, watermelon, beans, peas, cucumbers...)
Rich Folk's Diet
Beer - several varieties
Wine - both white and red; imported as well as domestic
Beef
Fish
Goat and Mutton
Antelope
Pork (for those not socially restrained from eating)
Goose
Duck
Pigeon
Watermelon
Figs
Dates
Pomegranates
Yellow Peas
Luba Beans
Black-Eyed Peas
Other Foods
Pancakes
Pastries
Fruit puree
Syrups
Honey
Honey Cake
Milk
...
--While on the subject of food, here's a good book to have:
The African Cookbook; Taste of a Continent, by Jessica B. Harris, Simon & Schuster



Pork, amongst many other things, was forbidden to the priests and also to the Initiates in the Mysteries.
Pork was generally considered unhealthy (e.g., it could kill you!), and by association, pig farmers were forbidden from the temples. They were also compelled to marry within their own group, as no outsider would marry one.
Regardless, there's plenty of surviving evidence (e.g., bones)which suggests that there was a lot of pork chops *chopped! (Kinda like the Japanese eating the fugu fish...it may kill you but it tastes soooo good!)
*chop: a Ghanaian expression meaning "to eat."

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There were also some forms of (Ancient Egyptian) pastry; pastry cooks were called "workers in dates," a term that refers to the use of the date as a sweetener."
The African Cookbook; Taste of a Continent, by Jessica B. Harris, Simon & Schuster; p7

This referenced book also contains several recipes for Egyptian dishes, some of which are traditional and predate both the Islamic and Ottoman periods. Here's a sampling:
(items in parenthesis are my comments)

quote:

Dinner with the Pharaohs
Karkadeh (Egyptian; Senegalese; Caribbean beverage)
Ful Medames (pre-Islamic Egyptian style beans)
Flat bread
Qahawah bel Habahan (Cardoman coffee; non-traditional)
You don't have to dress in thin cotton and wear cones of perfumed tallow on your head, but perhaps you might want to decorate the table with pyramids and photographs of Egyptian temples. Listen to the music of Ali Hassan Kuban or Mohamed Mounir, musicians who hark from the Nubian region of southern Egypt --p359



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posted 21 February 2005 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ausar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The two authenic foods in modern Egypt is the sun bread[betow] made on clay pots that rise in the sun. The other I believe is a certain kind of caviare dish eaten in Upper Egypt.

The local beer in Southern Egypt is locally called booza. Many believe this to be a direct desendant of the beer used in antiquity.


The ancient Egyptians used pestle and mortars to form the wheat into flour. Much like modern Africans use them. Modern peasents tend to use a mill to grind wheat into flour.


Here is some more information:

Feasting with the Pharaohs and Fellahs: Cooking and Dining in Egypt Across the Ages

Ms. Nicole Hansen is a doctoral candidate in Egyptology at the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute, specializing in comparisons between Ancient and Modern Egypt. Nicole received her MA in Egyptology from the University of Chicago and her BA, also in Egyptology, from UC Berkeley. She is currently working in Cairo on the Theban Mapping Project, editing the Valley of the Kings web site, while she completes her doctoral dissertation.

Ms. Hansen opened her lecture by providing the audience with a list of some of the food stuffs found in the tomb of Tutankhamun, including: emmer wheat, garlic, watermelon, dome palm fruit, dates, fruit cakes, pomegranates, and almonds. Bread was in loaves, which were baked in a wide variety of shapes, such as obelisks, geometric shapes, rounds, and animal shapes. Every Egyptian included in the funerary provisions list for his or her afterlife a thousand - or more - loaves of bread.

As is the case in modern Egypt, bread was a life staple in ancient times. We know the names of many of the bread loaves from texts, but don't yet know which specific bread and which name go together in most cases. One exception is an ancient loaf called "the-ba", which was probably the same as today's "betow. Sun bread, made today in Upper Egypt may have an ancient origin. Bread ovens used in ancient times were known as "taruru", and may be reflected in today's tandoori-type ovens used in Indian cooking. Several years ago, Mark Lehner and Ed Wood teamed up to try to make ancient Egyptian bread, using ancient methods and wild native yeast. Using Emmer and Kamut, both ancient strains of wheat, they made bread dough using the wild yeast they had captured from the air and made into a "starter" not unlike sour dough starter. The bread was baked in clay pots just at the ancients did.

The ancients also loved beer, which was drunk by all age groups in the society. It has been thought for many years that beer was brewed from partially baked barley bread, and in fact some home-brewed beer may have been made that way. Current research is showing, however, that a malt made from sprouted wheat, very like what is used to make modern beer, may have been in regular use. Recently, Kirin Beer, a Japanese company, decided to brew a batch of beer from bread using yeast from date palms. They were able to create a beer type beverage, but it was quite sweet.

Wine was available to the upper echelons of society, and we have ample evidence of wine production. Wine jugs were tagged with the place of origin and the regnal year of the reigning king. Lots of texts on wine making survive from the Greco/Roman period, plus references found in Baghdad, which extol the virtues of Egyptian wines. Ms. Hansen noted that the whole topic of wine making in ancient Egypt has great potential for investigation, which she hopes to pursue.

Meat was a regular part of the diet of the ancients, though some meats such as beef and exotic game meats were unavailable to the poorer members of society except at festivals. Some of the more exotic meats consumed by ancient Egyptians were gazelles, hyenas, and mice. Mice may have been used medicinally. We know that at Deir el-Medina workers received regular rations of mice. Beef was considered a particularly high status meat, and the foreleg was the most highly prized cut. We have positive evidence that cattle were force-fed to the point that they became so rotund they could not walk, and had to be transported to slaughter in a cart. In addition, pigs, goats and sheep were also consumed.

Meat was eaten fresh, as well as dried, and/or salted. Preserved cuts of meat found in tombs are wrapped in linen strips and sometimes entombed in clay caskets shaped like the joint or cut. Researchers seeking to determine how funerary meats were preserved found that the best way to find out was to actually lick the meat!

Poultry eaten by the ancients included cranes, partridges, geese, avocets, pigeons, doves, and ducks of several types. Birds were killed by wringing their necks, then the feathers were plucked. They were roasted on a spit or brazier, and sometimes salted and stored in jars or dried and stored. Domesticated birds, such as ducks and geese, were also force-fed and there is some evidence that the Egyptians may have made the first fois gras from the livers of their over-fed geese. As well as the flesh, eggs were consumed by society at all levels.

Fish, which was readily available to every strata of society, was the most successful form of protein in the ancient Egyptian's diet. Like meat, it was eaten fresh, salted and/or dried. Salted fish is still a part of the diet of modern Egyptians. In addition to the flesh of fish the ovaries containing eggs were part of the diet of the ancients. The ovaries were salted and pressed, just as they are today.

Dairy products were enjoyed by all levels of society. We have records of milk from cows, goats and donkeys being consumed, both as a food and medicinally in the case of donkey milk. Cheese has been found in tombs from the Greco/Roman period. Cheese strainers which have survived from ancient times look very much like those used today.

Fruits, vegetables, legumes and beans were widely consumed by ancient Egyptians, and there is evidence that some of them were cooked and prepared in various ways. A utensil used to puree vegetables after cooking has been repeatedly found in tombs and is nearly identical to a similar utensil used today.

Cakes and sweets were sweetened with honey in ancient times as sugar cane did not come to Egypt until after 600BC. In the tomb of Rekmira there are depictions of people making cakes from little tubers. As no gluten is specified, it is difficult to figure out what these tubers might be, however.

Both men and women cooked. Cooking, however, was not considered a "high status" job! Soldiers prepared their own meals on the battle field. Fishermen who worked the river had to contend with a variety of hazards, including swarms of biting insects, crocodiles and hippos - so it too was a hazardous endeavor.

We find no eating utensils represented in surviving depictions of food and food preparation. Presumably, people ate with their hands, which is also common today. We do know that men ate apart from women and children in most cases. Moderation in eating was considered proper behavior and the indication of an honest man. The evils of overeating were compared to the evils of over indulging in sex, in some texts. The reader is advised that gluttony may well lead to poverty and sickness. Differences between the diets of the rich and poor are commented on in the wisdom literature left by the ancients and include strictures regarding eating in the presence of one's superiors.

Autobiographical texts often note that the deceased "fed the hungry", a good act and one equated to a source of blessing from the gods. On the other hand taking food from the poor is decried as an "abominable act". Famine was, from time to time, a problem in Egypt, and there are surviving depictions of the nobility assuaging the hunger of the poor. Some surviving reference to cannibalism during times of famine may be allegorical, if not actual. There is some evidence that cannibalism may have occurred during Medieval times as well as ancient times, but none are certain.

What has been touted as the first labor strike in history occurred over food rations. The Deir el-Medina workmen, who built the royal tombs in the Valley of the Kings during the New Kingdom, were paid in food stuffs from the temple stores and redistribution system. When their rations were not forthcoming, they, staged a sit down protest and refused to work until their rations were delivered.

Many non-royal, decorated tombs depict an offering table before the seated tomb owner, which is piled high with a wide variety of foods. Ms. Hansen noted that these depictions represent the ideal meal, not necessarily reality. Ordinary meals are less frequently depicted. It is interesting to note, however, that nearly every depiction includes abundant quantities of green onions or leeks, which were eaten raw just as they are today. We have nothing surviving that could be considered a "cookbook". Several medicinal texts are the closest we can come to a recipe. Though one would not want to "eat" the resulting concoctions, the texts do give an idea of the types of herbs and spices in use at the time.

With the spread of Islam, new foods came into Egypt, including rice, wheat, sugar cane, coconuts, oranges, lemons and limes. Many of these foods were first traded to Egyptians and continue to be part of the Egyptian diet today. Rice did take a while to catch on in the Arab world, but is now a staple. As noted earlier, honey was the sweetener used by the ancients, but it was supplanted by refined sugar when sugar cane cultivation became well established in the Delta. Egyptians still consume more sugar per capita than any other nation in the world.

Today, many foreign foods have made their way into Egypt, such as potato chips that are turkey, chicken curry, or beef kabobs flavored! Local and imported cheese is popular, as is ice cream and yogurt. Egyptian tastes have become more varied and cosmopolitan. There is even a Seattle Coffee company in the heart of Cairo now!

? Nancy Corbin

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