posted 01 October 2005 07:17 AM            

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Probably the name, Mediterranean, is as good as any for a designation of the great subrace of basic, long-headed brunets that constitutes the largest number of Whites, was certainly the earliest White subrace, and retains the full pigmentation of hair, skin, and eyes that was characteristic of early Homo sapiens. The name is adopted from the great Italian anthropologist Sergi, who used it however, as a racial rather than a subracial title.

Certainly, the most archaic morphological type of the Mediterranean subrace is that known as Upper Palaeolithic, sometimes also called Galley Hill or Combe Capelle (or, by Coon, the "Bruenn race") from type fossil finds in Europe, and also frequently referred to as Atlanto-Mediterranean (Deniker). This exceptionally long-headed type is notable for the great size of the brain-case and its rugged bony construction. The face is commonly long and massive, but it may be rather short, perhaps oftenest when bodily stature is below medium. The jaws are nearly always deep and heavy. It seems improbable that this type, when identified in Wales, Cornwall, and Ireland, or elsewhere, represents the pure lineal descendants of Upper Palaeolithic men. It is more likely to be due to recombination of genetic factors from old strains. It is hard to believe that anywhere in Europe there are inbred, unmixed survivors of Palaeolithic colonies. This type, which is easy to recognize, but does not easily lend itself to selection by any mechanical sorting process, is fairly common in Iran and Iraq an probably elsewhere in the Middle East. In Ireland, England, and the United States, a very closely similar type, that differs only in that eyes are mixed instead of dark, is sorted out as the residual Nordic-Mediterranean type, on the assumption that the lightening of eye pigmentation is due to admixture with the blond Nordic stock. This may or may not be the correct interpretation. There are virtually no pure dark eyes (medium brown, dark brown, or black) in Ireland, and hence, by sorting criteria, practically no pure Mediterraneans. However, the type, complete with dark eyes and dark hair, seems a little commoner in Britain and the United States.

A variant of this Upper Palaeolithic type in which the face is short and broad with laterally jutting cheek bones and square, flaring gonial (hinder jaw) angles is often identified as a modern Cro Magnon type. It was first thus designated by Collignon in the Dordogne region of central France, where Upper Palaeolithic man and the original Cro Magnon skeletons were found. Even here it seems probable that we are dealing with recombinations rather than pure line descendants. Other writers have recognized these so-called Cro Magnons in Scandinavia, central Europe, and elsewhere. The present writer still inclines to the belief, set forth in connection with a study of the Guanches of the Canary Islans (other alleged modern Cro Magnons), that this long-headed, short, broad-faced type orginarily arises as a ubstable hybridization product, the result of a cross between long-heads and brachycephals with short, broad faces, which latter are sometimes hafted to the long, narrow skulls of the Upper Palaeolithic type. A Mongoloid admixture often produces this combination. It may be seen in American Indians and also in the skulls of mediaeval Icelanders who are not without suspicion of having acquired a dash of Eksimo blood in connection with their colonization of Greenland. Lappish admixture might produce this type in Scandinavia.

The second morphological type of the Mediterranean subrace has recently been recognized by Henry Field under the name of the Iranian Plateau type (according to usage here it is called a type and not a race.) The definition of this type, based upon very extensive anthropometric surveys of Iran and Iraq, seems to me the most important addition to the knowledge of the contemporary White race that has been made in the last few decades. It is true that Deniker recognized a somewhat similar type, which he designated as Indo-Afghan, but the pure and characteristic form of type is not Indian, nor (in all probability) Afghan, but Iranian and Mesopotamian. Nor did Deniker describe and isolate the type in any really satisfactory manner. The Iranian Plateau type differes from the Upper Palaeolithic type particularly in its long, high-bridged, and boldly jutting nasal promontory. It has the same huge dolichocephalic head and massive, usually long face. The great nose may be either straight or convex, more often the latter. I have no doubt that archaeological research in the Middle East will reveal the Upper Palaeolithic antiquity of this type, which, in my opinion, is the most probable fons et origo of all the exuberant nasal convexity that has been distributed, not only through several White subraces and types, but by hybridization among such composite races as the American Indian, and even, perhaps the Papuan type of Melanesia. For, high nasal elevation and convexity behave as Mendelian dominants. I incline to the theory that the original form of this magnificent nose is straight bridged and that the convexity arises initially in a bowing or buckling that takes place when it is grown on a somewhat too short face as a possible disharmonic feature. However, that is merely an interesting possibility. The Iranian Plateau type is occasionally encountered in Europe, where it may be an effect of recombination.

The brunet, long-headed, delicate and gracile type that is ordinarily thought of under the name Mediterranean, I propose to call Classic Mediterranean. There can be little doubt that it is a reduced, refined, smaller-boned derivative of either or both of the massive dolichocephals -- Upper Palaeolithic and Iranian Plateau. As both J.R. de la H. Marett and Carleton Coon argue, there has been an evolutionary tendency toward a fineing down, almost an effeminization, of early forms of man discernible in many modern races, both in general body build and particularly in skeletal structure. Marett ascribes it to calcium economy (in a brilliant book at which it is the fashion for cautious and unoriginal scientists to sniff but which contains more strimulating ideas and provocative therories, more suggestions for research on the relation of nutrition to human evolution, than are encompassed in any other half-dozen books on physical anthropology written in the last half-century).

There are two variants of the Classic Mediterranean type -- straight-nosed and hook-nosed. The former is the more primitive and the more widely distributed. It extended in prehistoric times along both shores of the Mediterranean, into central, western, and northern Europe and down into the Horn of Africa. Its area of characterization and source of dissemination cannot have been far from the traditional Garden of Eden -- Mesopotamia, which archaeologists include in "the Fertile Crescent." There is not much doubt that the eastward extension of straight-nosed Mediterraneans of the Classic type provided the White basis of the early populations in southeastern Asia and Indonesia. They probably were the main carriers of the Aryan language into India at a much later date.

The expansion of the aquiline or hook-nosed Mediterranean type seems to have been somewhat more limited and probably later than that of the straight-nosed variant. In historical times, it was carried into North Africa and Spain principally by the Arabs, but other Semitic-speaking and non-Semitic peoples of prehistoric times may well have possessed this variation. Some of this type may have reached India, but nasal convexity there seems largely the result of infusions of the Iranian Plateau type.

The little and lithe brunets of this Classic Mediterranean type have disseminated their blood and their culture throughout the ancient and modern world. Obsessed with no bigoted prejudices as to "racial purity," they have promiscuously bestowed upon the peoples with whom they have come into contact whatever of their civilization these could absorb and as many as their physical features as the recipients could retain. The Mediterraneans have mixed with the Negro peoples of central and eastern Africa so that many of the latter show the effects of the cross in their less projecting faces, narrower, longer, and higher noses, and in the diminished curliness of their hair. Indeed, many classificationists recognize a "Hamitic" or "Ethiopian" race that includes such peoples as the Galla, the Somali, the Masai, the Bahima, and other peoples of East Africa who are obviously Negroids with a proportion of Mediterranean White blood varying in different groups, but amounting in general to less than a quarter. Negro Africa abounds in mulatto peoples of ancient origin and often of considerable homogeneity. Most of these are tall and slender, and from their tendency to aquiline noses seem to have acquired their White blood from the Arab or Semitic type of the Mediterranean subrace. It seems probable that most of these mixed groups originated by early contact of Mediterranean invaders into the Horn of Africa with the Negroes of East Africa and the Lake Region.

At least as early as 5000 B.C. Mediterranean race peoples in Mesopotamia and Egypt had reached a very respectable level of Neolithic civilization, had domesticated plants and animals, and were making substantial progress in arts and industries. Nomadic pastoral tribes ranged over Arabia and had probably invaded Africa by way of the Horn and mingled their blood with that of the Negro race.

In Mesolithic times, we find these ubiquitous and vivacious long-heads squatting on the beaches of the Baltic and the strands of the Tagus, leaving vast residues of their shore dinners in heaps of shells and bones. In the Neolithic period, they have become skillful farmers, dexterous craftsmen, and monumental builders in stone. During the Age of Copper and Bronze, they advanced in the more favored areas to cultures of such perfumed sophistication as to involve the use of bath-tubs and drains. Crete was not only the birthplace of Zeus, but apparently also of Aesculapius and Hygeia. The first plumber probably forgot his tools in the Palace of Minos.

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posted 01 October 2005 07:19 AM            

Here are some examples of Mediterranean types from all over the Caucasoid world:

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Western Europe

Spanish:

Portuguese:

Irish:

Scottish:

Southeastern Europe

S. Italian:

Sicilian:

Greek:

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posted 01 October 2005 07:21 AM            

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Eastern Europe

Russian:

Ukrainian:

Middle East

Yemeni:

Afghan:

North Africa

Libyan:

===================== NEGROID ADMIXED PERIPHERY =====================

East Africa

Ethiopian:

Somali:

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posted 01 October 2005 09:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Evil Euro:
As with any old anthropological source, this description includes some inaccurate speculation about sources and levels of admixture.

-- Earnest A. Hooton. Up from the Ape (1946), pp. 582-585

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Thought Writes:

LOL! He starts out making excuses for an out of date, non-peer-reviewed source. Evil E's debate tactics include:

1) Use of old, out of date sources.

2) Misconstruing up to date information and then when clarification and context is gained he rejects the data HE brought up in the first place.

3) You mop the floor with him using his own theories and sources against him and he disappears for a day or so and starts a new thread repeating the same crap you just beat his a** over a few days prior.

4) He goes into racist rants when your argument is more logical than his. He uses the racist rants as a method to deflect attention away from his lost cause.

posted 01 October 2005 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Thought2:
Thought Writes:

LOL! He starts out making excuses for an out of date, non-peer-reviewed source. Evil E's debate tactics include:

1) Use of old, out of date sources.

2) Misconstruing up to date information and then when clarification and context is gained he rejects the data HE brought up in the first place.

3) You mop the floor with him using his own theories and sources against him and he disappears for a day or so and starts a new thread repeating the same crap you just beat his a** over a few days prior.

4) He goes into racist rants when your argument is more logical than his. He uses the racist rants as a method to deflect attention away from his lost cause.

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posted 02 October 2005 06:49 AM            

1) Ignoring the topic to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

2) Attacking the source to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

3) Calling hard data "out of date" to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

4) Psychoanalyzing the poster to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

Super car's debate tactics include:

posted 02 October 2005 06:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Evil Euro:
[b]Thought2's debate tactics include:

1) Ignoring the topic to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

2) Attacking the source to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

3) Calling hard data "out of date" to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

4) Psychoanalyzing the poster to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

Super car's debate tactics include:

1) Agreeing with Thought2 to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.[/B]

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Evil Euro's tactics.

posted 02 October 2005 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Evil Euro:
[b]Thought2's debate tactics include:

1) Ignoring the topic to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

2) Attacking the source to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

3) Calling hard data "out of date" to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

4) Psychoanalyzing the poster to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

Super car's debate tactics include:

1) Agreeing with Thought2 to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.[/B]

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posted 02 October 2005 07:39 AM            

{At first it seems as though no consistent sense could be made from an observation since such people as the inhabitants of East Africa right on the equator have appreciably longer, narrower, and high noses than the people in the Congo at the same latitude. A former generation of anthropologists used to explain this paradox by invoking an invasion by an itinerant "white" population from the Mediterranean area, although this solution raised more problems than it solved since the East Africans in question include some of the blackest people in the world with characateristically woolly hair and a body build unique among the world's populations for its extreme linearity and height.}

Very West Eurasian-proto-Caucasoid-Caucasoid like according to CL Brace.

[This message has been edited by D_ManningJr (edited 02 October 2005).]

posted 02 October 2005 09:57 AM            

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Originally posted by leba:

Nitwit that CL Brace guy means Nilotic people with one of the blackest not Aethiopid type of east Africans.

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How do you know you stupid fake Somali? Brace doesn't consider Somalis as mixed people but rather as elongated type people.

posted 02 October 2005 10:02 AM            

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Originally posted by D_ManningJr:
How do you know you stupid fake Somali? Brace doesn't consider Somalis as mixed people but rather as elongated type people.

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Hi Charlie Bass,

He was clearly talking about Nilotic people with one of the blackest etc. Aethiopids are red-brown to light brown no way the blackest.

posted 02 October 2005 10:04 AM            

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Originally posted by leba:
Hi Charlie Bass,

He was clearly talking about Nilotic people with one of the blackest etc.

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Hi fake Somali, I'm not Charlie but you saw the email replies from Brace, deal with it and do not reply to me again you internet troll.

posted 02 October 2005 10:12 AM            

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Hi fake Somali

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I'm not Charlie

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but you saw the email replies from Brace, deal with it and do not reply to me again you internet troll.

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posted 02 October 2005 10:43 AM            

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Originally posted by walklikeanegyptian:
and you can? i feel like i am on laughing gas from that comment :lol: LMAO.

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posted 02 October 2005 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by D_ManningJr:

[img] ]http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/105938.gif[/img]

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Mister Adoon Bantu, Is it that hard to post a image?

posted 02 October 2005 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by leba:
Hi alter-ego of [b]''Makayla''.[/B]

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posted 02 October 2005 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by leba:

Nitwit that CL Brace guy means Nilotic people with one of the blackest not Aethiopid type of east Africans.

[This message has been edited by leba (edited 02 October 2005).]

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Thought Writes:

Hi Leba,

posted 02 October 2005 11:36 AM            

And since Nilotes are the blackest people in the world my guess he was talking about them...

posted 02 October 2005 11:44 AM            

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Originally posted by leba:

He only said East African, That could be anything. (Nilote, Bantu, Horn African)

And since Nilotes are the blackest people in the world my guess...

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Thought Writes:

posted 02 October 2005 12:50 PM            

* "Mediterranian subrace" is smelly old garbage from the 1940s - it reflects the desparate attempt to counter Hitler Aryanism with Pan CaucaZoidism - two equally phony - equally racist ideologies that have no place in modern bioanthropology.

Pseudoscience relies heavily on anachronistic thinking -- especially if the idea is transparently wrong and has long been discarded by science

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ginzo ape:

Super car's debate tactics include:

1) Agreeing with Thought2 to deflect attention away from his lack of answers.

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Mentally bruised dark mediterranean ape, there's nothing much else left to address, when you've been broken down intellectually and psychologically with up-to-date peer-reviewed facts...to the point of forcing you to jump backwards to an era of segregationist-inspired loony stuff...and well, the rest has already been flawlessly laid out:

Thought writes:

LOL! He starts out making excuses for an out of date, non-peer-reviewed source. Evil E's debate tactics include:

1) Use of old, out of date sources.

2) Misconstruing up to date information and then when clarification and context is gained he rejects the data HE brought up in the first place.

3) You mop the floor with him using his own theories and sources against him and he disappears for a day or so and starts a new thread repeating the same crap you just beat his a** over a few days prior.

4) He goes into racist rants when your argument is more logical than his. He uses the racist rants as a method to deflect attention away from his lost cause.

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You are toast, wop!

posted 03 October 2005 06:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Babbling Ape:
"Mediterranian subrace" is smelly old garbage from the 1940s

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* John Baker, Race (1975)

"The Berbers were (and are) Mediterranids, probably with some admixture from the Cromagnid subrace of ancient times."

* J. Lawrence Angel, The People of Lerna (1971)

"Although the first agricultural inhabitants of the belt from Syria-Israel-Jordan to North Africa were mainly rugged Mediterranean (A3 and some B, in varying preponderance)...."

* L. Cabot Briggs, Stone Age Races of Northwest Africa (1955) <-- favorite Afronut source

"We find that Type B is also remarkably close to Angel's ('44) Ancient Greek 'Classic Mediterranean' Type B...."

posted 03 October 2005 08:15 AM            

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S. Mohammad:

Table 16 we note the same parallels to ancient Lower Nubians that characterize Type B males, and the similarity to Derry's Siwa series is again strong, but we find also a strikingly close resemblance to a series of West African crania from Fernand Vaz in the Gaboon (Trevor, '49)

We find that Type B is also remarkably close to Angel's ('44) Ancient Greek "Classic Mediterranean" Type B, which, in its turn, is even closer to Derry's Siwa series than are el Batrawi's A-Group Lower Nubians.

L. Cabot-Briggs
Stone Age Races of Northwest Africa
pgs 61, 62

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Thought Writes:

Evil E quotes EARLY J.L. Angel work to support the idea of striking "Racial continuity in Greece" (Angel, 1944), yet he seems to overlook the LATER Angel finds which indicate…. "...one can identify Negroid (Ethiopic or Bushmanoid) traits of nose and prognathism appearing in Natufian latest hunters and in Anatolian and Macedonian first farmers, probably FROM NUBIA..."

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Southern Europeans are part European, part African and part West Asian, as attested by both Angel and Briggs.

There is no Mediteranian sub race.

There are a few desparate sub-mental losers like Erroneous who can't deal with the reality of their mixed heritage....

posted 03 October 2005 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Evil Euro:
Mediterranean morphology is very ancient and widespread. It's therefore found in populations carrying a variety of different haplogroups, including R1b and I in Western Europe; J, E3b, G and F in the Middle East, Africa and Southern Europe; and, to a lesser extent, R1a and N3 in Eastern Europe and Central Asia.

Here are some examples of Mediterranean types from all over the Caucasoid world:

[QUOTE][b]Western Europe

Spanish:

Portuguese:

Irish:

Scottish:

Southeastern Europe

S. Italian:

Sicilian:

Greek:

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THESE ARE THE UGLIEST, UNHUMAN LOOKING WHITE FOLKS AND HYBRID WHITE FOLKS I HAVE SEEN IN ALL OF MY LIFE!!!!!

Please try and find some descent looking European peoples to spam all over the board, for once. You'll have a better chance of doing so spamming pics of outlier Euros with strong Black blood.

posted 03 October 2005 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Horemheb:
"If you are going to intervene in a conversation at least know the facts and background of the discussion."

That has never stopped you Thoughtless.

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posted 04 October 2005 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Babbling Ape:
There is no Mediteranian sub race.

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^^^^^^^^^^ Thinks he can make scientific terms he dislikes go away by misspelling them:

- "Mediterranian"

- "CaucaZoid"

What a delusional freak.

Classic Mediterraneans (Type B)

"Classic Mediterraneans (Type B: Mytilenean, W. Cretan, and Corinthian of Argive parentage in Plate XL, r, s, and t) are light-boned, almost fragile. They have small, barely dolichocrane heads, pentagonoid in outline in both vertical and occipital views, contracted neck muscle area, and low almost vertical rounded foreheads. Their slender, fine-featured faces have square orbits, thin noses smooth and low in the nasion region, and a triangular taper down to pinched jaws with shallow and pointed chin, weak prognathism, and an overbite linked with subnormal degree of teeth wear. They were probably just below medium stature, gracile, slender-necked, brunet, with black or dark hair. They are virtually identical with ancient Libyans and modern Sicilians, and similar to Upper Egyptians of prehistoric and Early Dynastic dates, and to modern Spanish. Type B is the most homogeneous one, with only slight tendencies in longer-headed, linear-faced and smaller, more squat-faced directions."

-- Angel J. Lawrence, 1945, Skeletal Material from Attica, Hesperia

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Originally posted by Big_Kane:
If you believe that the features of Greeks are indeed white, then you need to prove the Aryanists wrong.

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posted 04 October 2005 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by rasol:

Southern Europeans are part European, part African and part West Asian, as attested by both Angel and Briggs.

There is no Mediteranian sub race.

There are a few desparate sub-mental losers like Erroneous who can't deal with the reality of their mixed heritage....

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Some folks seem to have a vested interest in "proving" that Sicilians are "white " Europeans, and selectively cite research sources to "prove" their thesis. (There's sometimes a distinctly Hitler-esque element in such obsessions.

The myth of the Mediterranean race D.R. Marniche:
"Modern populations are not so much Mediterranean in an anthropological sense as the result of amalgamation of various light skinned Europeans with Black Africans once numerous in these areas"

posted 04 October 2005 01:38 PM            

Again, the dumb-mut has reverted back to posting his old "Meditteranean" prison mug shots!!!

posted 05 October 2005 06:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Babbling Ape:
http://www.bestofsicily.com/genetics.htm

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^^^^^^^^^^ You know the ape is completely defeated when he runs back to the travel website.

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The myth of the Mediterranean race D.R. Marniche:

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"New York's Black Woman Magazine will become Global Black Woman Magazine, taking on a new scope with its new name, according to Dana Marniche, editor and publisher."

posted 05 October 2005 08:05 AM            

So SoreLoserEuro whines to them, but gets ignored....

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Bitter Euro: I wrote Best of Sicily but they ignored me.

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CL Brace also humiliates EuroLoser:
As I see it, the appearances of the Upper Nile Valley and Horn people has little if anything to do with admixtures....I certainly *do not* see elongate east Africans as "caucasoid".

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Charlie Bass asks: why don't you email Brace himself and ask??????

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But Gutless Ginney, justs stands there...

...trembling.

posted 06 October 2005 06:47 AM            

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CL Brace also humiliates EuroLoser:

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No, Brace humiliates YOU:

"When the nonadaptive aspects of craniofacial configuration are the basis for assessment, the Somalis cluster with Europeans before showing a tie with the people of West Africa or the Congo Basin." (Brace et al. 1993)

posted 06 October 2005 08:31 AM            

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""When the nonadaptive aspects of craniofacial configuration are the basis for assessment, the Somalis cluster with Europeans before showing a tie with the people of West Africa or the Congo Basin." (Brace et al. 1993)"

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Second question, even though repetive: What does physical features (influenced by the environment) have to do with one' Y-Chromosome or mtDNA DNA signature?

You see, 'race' does exist, but the accepted classification (of the pseudo-science era, long before) is now (Oct 6th) incorrect. It is true that Somalis, many East Africans do indeed have certain similarities with many Southern Europeans, but this phenotype cannot be categorized as 'Caucasian' since the term is only used outside academia. East and West Africans share a common ancestor, unlike those E3b, J, and R, all having a seperate ancestor. This is why it is valid to say that Somalis and Nigerians have the same ancestors hence can be classed within the same 'race', even though Somalis have a more aqualine, 'Arab-type' look.

Take a look:

Source: www.dictionary.com
In many ways the standard dictionary is outdated when it come to history, science and what-not (because of political reason), but the german classification of races is now dead.

Caucasian:

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Anthropology. Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. [u]No longer in scientific use.[/u] See Usage Note at race1."

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Negroid:

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Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as brown to black pigmentation and often tightly curled hair and including peoples indigenous to sub-Saharan Africa. [u]Not in scientific use.[/u] See Usage Note at race1.

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posted 06 October 2005 10:33 AM            

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CL Brace also humiliates EuroLoser:
As I see it, the appearances of the Upper Nile Valley and Horn people has little if anything to do with admixtures....I certainly *do not* see elongate east Africans as "caucasoid".

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Charlie Bass asks: Erroneous, why don't you email Brace yourself?

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Keep trembling, Scared Euro:

posted 07 October 2005 07:03 AM            

* East Africans do not have the "same ancestors" as West Africans:

* Racial terminology is still "in scientific use" --

By anthropologists . . .

For about 30 years the origin of the modern human species has been the subject of much debate. We are divided into well-marked, if overlapping, geographic races:

* Caucasoid people in Europe, North Africa, the Middle East and the Indian subcontinent;
* Mongoloid people in eastern and South-East Asia, the Pacific and the Americas;
* Negroid people in Africa, south of the Sahara; and
* Australoid people in Australia and Melanesia.

-- Colin P. Groves, 2003

As well as geneticists . . .

The color map of the world shows very distinctly the differences that we know exist among the continents: Africans (yellow), Caucasoids (green), Mongoloids (purple), and Australian Aborigines (red).

posted 07 October 2005 09:20 AM            

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CL Brace: As I see it, the appearances of the Upper Nile Valley and Horn people has little if anything to do with admixtures....I certainly *do not* see elongate east Africans as "caucasoid".

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Charlie Bass asks: why don't you email Brace himself and ask??????

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posted 08 October 2005 07:34 PM            

Exposed as a fraud,

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CL Brace writes: the appearances of the Upper Nile Valley and Horn people has little if anything to do with admixtures....I certainly *do not* see elongate east Africans as "caucasoid

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Living in Fear:

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Charlie Bass asks: why don't you email Brace himself and ask??????

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Poor Erroneous:

Keep trembling.