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BM Member # 12757	posted Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible PUKE If you are offended by the title don't go to the link please NOT FOR EMOTIONAL PEOPLE.
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humanist Member # 12798	posted Even if it says that in the Bible, which I very much doubt it you'd be hard pressed to find any Westerner following any scripture that is illogical and backwards. Even the likes of Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson wouldn't think of or advocate such stupidity and depravity. Can you say that for the Muslim world?
humanist Member # 12798	posted I read the link and have no doubt several hundred years ago such vile things happened in the name of social honor and Christianity...but again, it was several hundred years ago. Modern day pedophiles have absolutely nothing to do with a "corrupted Bible" as you say. I am not defending Christianity but rather modern day Christians. I'm glad you think it is wrong Batman..I'm also assuming you think the other things mentioned about fathers and daughters is wrong too. Why then do you never post comtemporary injustices committed by your own in the name of Islam...such as FGM, honor killing, ect? That means you agree that FGM and honor killing
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted How can you justify to your daughter or sister that it is Biblically and religiously OK to insert a (middle) finger (whether by male or female; it doesn't matter) into her vagina to take away her virginity? I mean, beside the woman's husband, who should really have the authority to touch her in her private like that?
Cats In The Craddle Member # 12627	posted For the refutations of BM’s lies regarding fathers’ sticking fingers in their daughters, as well as the issue of the Holy Bible and porn, please read the following articles: http://answer-islam.org/fathers_rape.html http://answer-islam.org/whatjews.htm http://answer-islam.org/AnsweringPornography.htm http://answer-islam.org/Porn1.html For an analysis of the contents and purpose of the Song of Songs, I highly recommend the following article by Andy Bannister: http://answering-islam.org/Andy/Songs/commentary.html And for a look at the Quran’s and Islam’s porn, please read the following articles: http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/mary.htm http://answer-islam.org/allahporn.html
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted further rebuttal to you quote: by cat in the cradle http://answer-islam.org/fathers_rape.html http://www.answering-christianity.com/more_jim_rebuttal.htm
humanist Member # 12798	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: How can you justify to your daughter or sister that it is Biblically and religiously OK to insert a (middle) finger (whether by male or female; it doesn't matter) into her vagina to take away her virginity? I mean, beside the woman's husband, who should really have the authority to touch her in her private like that? I don't JUSTIFY such nonsense...it is garbage just as any text would be that advocated pain, humiliation, violation, torture, death, loss of freedom or any other immoral human condition. No modern day Christian - probably not for several hundred years- would argue that it is religously or morally OK to violate a woman in this manner. Modern day Christians know what to take literally in their book...at least with regard to social issues. But what I'm asking you...which you avoided to answer so far...is why don'tyou
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted quote: why don'tyou y dont me??. Do u know me? I dont respect human rights of males or females or pets or whateva???? what u want prove is strange. Do u think i criticise this behavior and do it. who told u that??. we don't have what is against human rights in Islam. the scripture of us is not corrupted humanist, dont u know that the bible is the religious reference to the christian ( new christian or old christian) I pointed in the link i provide that digital defloration is still done in the name of religion in the presnt age u definitaly didnt read the links in the topic. the writer said it's still done in the modern time
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by humanist: Why then do you never post comtemporary injustices committed by your own in the name of Islam...such as FGM, honor killing, ect? quote: Originally posted by Egyptian_batman: it;s like Female circumcision is like male circumcision. the two r for religious reasons. like the sunna that say cutting the hair around the genitalia is somthing of cleaness. You find religious people do it either male or female. they want to obey the Sunnah. So leave them alone they do what they want free. Some people see the shiks saying female circumcssion is advisable and suna. they take this route. we should NOT attack them. www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=001964;p=6
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted quote: Originally posted by Dalia: quote: Originally posted by humanist: Why then do you never post comtemporary injustices committed by your own in the name of Islam...such as FGM, honor killing, ect?* quote: Originally posted by Egyptian_batman: it;s like Female circumcision is like male circumcision. the two r for religious reasons. like the sunna that say cutting the hair around the genitalia is somthing of cleaness. You find religious people do it either male or female. they want to obey the Sunnah. So leave them alone they do what they want free. Some people see the shiks saying female circumcssion is advisable and suna. they take this route. we should NOT attack them. www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=001964;p=6 dahliaaaaaa u r wonderful what I mean is misinterpretted. i will go now but when back i wil explain what i meant
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted Where did "genital mutilation" for females come from? Is it allowed in Islam and Christianity?
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted Islam's definition of "Circumcision" is not Mutilation fyi MRS dahlia
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: URL=http://www.answering-christianity.com/genital_mutilation.htm I don't read this site. It's utter crap, an odd mixture of silly apologetics and contradicting texts. The same goes for answering-islam.
Princess_Leia Member # 12077	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: Islam's definition of "Circumcision" is not Mutilation fyi MRS dahlia How could a Shiek or Imam know the damage female circumcision acomplishes? Its a medical and psychological trauma not something a Sheik could analyze, and most North African doctors don't really want to admit the damage it does. There are a handful of gynocologist who repair the damage done from female circumcision in my metro area. they are Arab doctors, yet they won't contribute to medical journals to explain the practice in a scientific manner. The damage from this practice is immense. I know a few women who had their infibulations redone after childbirth and next childbirth died because of internal bleeding. Cliterialdoctomies might not be to the extent of infibulation, but there isn't any medical training done in medical schools to ready a doctor for the means of surgically removing the clit hood, and from what I understand there aren't surgical manuals that explain the female's sexual organs in quite the detail you would find in a western surgical manual. Let alone the fact that most female circumcisions are not done by doctors anyhow. Yeah female circumcision, specifically the cliteraldictomy could be done correctly, if done by a surgeon. But surgical med students aren't trained for this nor are there proper education around this proceedure in the North African region. So in the end when female circumcision is done, its done to mutilate. lopping off a boy's foreskin is no way in any manner similar to clipping off a girl's cliteral hood.
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted quote: Originally posted by Dalia: quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: URL=http://www.answering-christianity.com/genital_mutilation.htm* I don't read this site. It's utter crap, an odd mixture of silly apologetics and contradicting texts. The same goes for answering-islam. he he Ha ha As u dont like y do u add urself to the discussion thanks Dahlia for ur posts
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted quote: Originally posted by Princess_Leia: quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: Islam's definition of "Circumcision" is not Mutilation fyi MRS dahlia How could a Shiek or Imam know the damage female circumcision acomplishes? Its a medical and psychological trauma not something a Sheik could analyze, and most North African doctors don't really want to admit the damage it does. There are a handful of gynocologist who repair the damage done from female circumcision in my metro area. they are Arab doctors, yet they won't contribute to medical journals to explain the practice in a scientific manner. The damage from this practice is immense. I know a few women who had their infibulations redone after childbirth and next childbirth died because of internal bleeding. Cliterialdoctomies might not be to the extent of infibulation, but there isn't any medical training done in medical schools to ready a doctor for the means of surgically removing the clit hood, and from what I understand there aren't surgical manuals that explain the female's sexual organs in quite the detail you would find in a western surgical manual. Let alone the fact that most female circumcisions are not done by doctors anyhow. Yeah female circumcision, specifically the cliteraldictomy could be done correctly, if done by a surgeon. But surgical med students aren't trained for this nor are there proper education around this proceedure in the North African region. So in the end when female circumcision is done, its done to mutilate. lopping off a boy's foreskin is no way in any manner similar to clipping off a girl's cliteral hood. Some1 like u should after all that do mutilatn on her own parts ?
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted quote: lopping off a boy's foreskin is no way in any manner similar to clipping off a girl's cliteral hood this is genuine crap and nosense what a double standard! but one momen what is " lopping off" and " clipping off"?? let me look up wait can u give us a definition of the two words?
Princess_Leia Member # 12077	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: quote: Originally posted by Princess_Leia: quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: Islam's definition of "Circumcision" is not Mutilation fyi MRS dahlia How could a Shiek or Imam know the damage female circumcision acomplishes? Its a medical and psychological trauma not something a Sheik could analyze, and most North African doctors don't really want to admit the damage it does. There are a handful of gynocologist who repair the damage done from female circumcision in my metro area. they are Arab doctors, yet they won't contribute to medical journals to explain the practice in a scientific manner. The damage from this practice is immense. I know a few women who had their infibulations redone after childbirth and next childbirth died because of internal bleeding. Cliterialdoctomies might not be to the extent of infibulation, but there isn't any medical training done in medical schools to ready a doctor for the means of surgically removing the clit hood, and from what I understand there aren't surgical manuals that explain the female's sexual organs in quite the detail you would find in a western surgical manual. Let alone the fact that most female circumcisions are not done by doctors anyhow. Yeah female circumcision, specifically the cliteraldictomy could be done correctly, if done by a surgeon. But surgical med students aren't trained for this nor are there proper education around this proceedure in the North African region. So in the end when female circumcision is done, its done to mutilate. lopping off a boy's foreskin is no way in any manner similar to clipping off a girl's cliteral hood. Some1 like u should after all that do circumcison on her own parts ? I don't understand your comment above. I would never have anything done to any part of my body unless it was medically necessary. I did sit down with a GP (general practioner) who has an opportunity to continue her medical education in surgery speciality. She cannot find a single course or medical book in the university that explains how female circumcision is done correctly. I am serious here. Trial and error, then building a reputation for not injuring your clients seem to be the only way this procedure is learned. Most of the time, female circumcision is not done by a medical professional anyhow.
Princess_Leia Member # 12077	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: quote: lopping off a boy's foreskin is no way in any manner similar to clipping off a girl's cliteral hood this is genuine crap and nosense what a double standard! but one momen what is " lopping off" and " clipping off"?? let me look up wait can u give us a definition of the two words? No dude it is not a double standard. The female cliterous isn't foreskin. Women and men are different for a reason. Women don't have a penis and men don't have a vagina so you cannot even compare the two. But in your case you might have a penis and a vagina so I can understand your confusion.
Dalia* Member # 10593	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: As u dont like y do u add urself to the discussion I don't think there's anything left to add after six pages of discussion about the subject. quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: thanks Dahlia for ur posts You're welcome.
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted u r misinformed dude/dudette for sono
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted quote: Originally posted by Dalia: quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: As u dont like y do u add urself to the discussion* I don't think there's anything left to add after six pages of discussion about the subject. i told u b4 u dont make me change my own opinion about u and try to build a good discussion. i gave u a link and u said i dont like the site and i dont like to discuss??
Princess_Leia Member # 12077	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: u r misinformed dude/dudette for sono No batty, I have had a child. My anatomy is verified as female. Yours is still in question.
BM ® The righteous machine Member # 12757	posted who verified u as female? ROFL
Princess_Leia Member # 12077	posted quote: Originally posted by BM ® The righteous machine: who verified u as female? ROFL well that happened either 4 1/2 years ago and 3 weeks ago. But you haven't been verified yet. Are all virgins this bitchy and arguementative? Getting laid will make you a much better person batty. Best to go out grab a loin clothe and start walking around Khan el-Khalil, within hours you'll find a bunch of horny foreign women just begging to deflower you.
yorkshire rose Member # 12072	posted you cant compare cutting clitoris off with foreskin, no way, the guy gets same pleasure, but womans is taken away totally