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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dalia*: [QB] [qb] CONSENT? WHAT CONSENT?[/qb] [i]By Jawad Ali[/i] [i]Question:[/i] Is it not a form of sexual abuse for a husband to be able to force his wife to have sex? How come the wife does not have the same right? [i]Answer:[/i] ...there is a legal difference between the husband and wife’s right to sex: the husband can demand sex, and the wife is obliged to agree unless there is a genuine physical or Shariah preventative. Even if she disagrees, he has the legal right to insist that she comply. While it is obligatory for the husband to fulfill his wife’s sexual needs, she cannot demand that he have sex with her if he does not want to. (their emphasis) Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani at SunniPath.com. Read the entire thing [URL=http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1830&CATE=117]here[/URL] . Here are 17 observations in no particular order (seventeen is a good Islamic number): 1. Marital rape is wrong. Horribly, horribly wrong. 2. People who don’t understand this should not be issuing fatwas. Children shouldn’t be playing with matches. 3. The sheikh argues that if a man is not allowed to have sex with his wife (with or without her consent), then he will go out and create abominations is society. There is no guarantee that such a man will cause abominations. There is an absolute guarantee of abomination if a man has sex with his wife without her consent. 4. One abomination that the sheikh does mention by name is masturbation. Dear Islamic scholars, if you are thinking of sexually abusing your wife, please go ahead and use the fist instead. Please do it in moderation. You have my permission as long as it is your own. 5. The only other abomination that the scholar mentions is that a woman's right to sexual consent will cause “sexual politics” in the family. Maybe it did not occur to him that the presence of sexual abuse may cause sexual politics in the household also. 6. All the Islamic sources that the sheikh cites are gender neutral and make the general opposite point: “men be kind to your wives, women be kind to your husband” sort of stuff. The scholar does not explain how he extracted “man demands non-consensual sex: allowed. Woman demands the same: not allowed” from these. 7. The only quote that he uses that is not perfectly gender neutral is the famous one about angels cursing wives who do not give their consent for sex every single time. The sheikh makes no effort to explain why this means that no consent is required to begin with. 8. Where do all these abominable fatwas come from? a. Some come from poor Shariah, such as the obviously man made hadith mentioned above. b. Some come from terrible logic applied to perfectly good Shariah. Take two verses from the Quran that say "be kind to your wife" and conclude that this proves that a wife’s consent is not needed for sex. There is a lot of “2 + 2 = 5” in traditional Islamic scholarship, and the teacher is always right no matter what he comes up with. c. Sometimes it is neither a set of bad sources, or bad logic applied to good sources. Sometimes it is bad social science and bad understanding of human nature that is masquerading as Allah’s will. 9. One of the silliest (but not uncommon) objections to a woman leading the prayers is that the sight of a woman in prayer would drive men into an uncontrolled sexual frenzy. I don’t know what sort of perverts these scholars hang out with, but that is not how any man I have ever known behaves. This sort of amateur (and perverse) social theory lies at the heart of a lot of Islamic ruling on gender issues. 10. Maybe Islamic scholars should discuss the reasons why a wife might not want sex on a particular day, and all the things that a husband could do short of forcing himself upon her. Listening to her would be a good start. Maybe a little cuddling would be nice too. Maybe it's his turn to empty the dishwasher. 11. I am not impressed that these harsh and unkind rulings come packaged in general platitudes about Islamic kindness. Hogwash. Don’t tell me that it is OK for me to rape the cleaning lady when she comes over, and then add that the rape must be conducted within the framework of Islamic kindness. [i]Man’s laws about marital rape can not coexist with God’s laws about kindness and justice. One or the other has to give.[/i] 12. Among the sources that the sheikh cites are “a scholar” and “one of the scholars from Syria” without any further references. Maybe a high-school level critical thinking and writing class should be required from all Sunni Path muftis. Of course, none of these anonymous scholars have anything specific to say about not needing a wife’s consent. 13. Maybe the scholar has some secret sources that directly support his twisted logic about sexual consent. Why does he bother with the rest of the mumbo-jumbo if he is not going to share these sources? 14. The scholar says that good sex makes a happy marriage, and then he adds that Western studies agree with this. Hey, even I agree with this. But who cares what Western studies say? If the good scholar is so concerned about Western studies then maybe he should look up what they say about sex without consent. 15. Sunni Path is not some fringe loony institution located in tribal areas of Pakistan. They are a mainstream American Muslim institution, as best as I can tell. “Most of our teachers were raised and educated in the West and only studied with teachers in the Muslim heartlands later in their lives,” they proclaim. This is explained in the section where they talk about how they are "sensitive to the needs of Muslims living in the modern world." [URL=http://www.muslimwakeup.com/main/archives/2006/02/consent_what_co.php#more]www.muslimwakeup.com/main/archives/2006/02/consent_what_co.php#more[/URL] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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