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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kafir4ever: [QB] When Muhammad says that women are deficient in intelligence, that they are tilts for men to cultivate, that Allah has given men the right to discipline their women, that women are toys - and a number of other quotes, plus the fact that he had so many women and slave girls, then frankly I don´t understand the reaction of some when I state the obvious, ie that women are inferior to men in Islam. How is that slandering the name of Muhammad? Is that untrue? Am I taking the quotes out of context? I am still waiting for a Muslim to show me those verses in the “right“ context. One more thing: There are some 200 violent verses in the Quran, about slaying the infidels, choping off their hands and feet etc, that are full of hatred. I have read them all in context, and I still see the same thing. Frankly I don´t understand it when you say that Islam is a peaceful religion. What about these verses? Yes, yes they are out of context you say. But can you find me any violent verses from Jesus, even out of context? Please I would like to see them! Or try to quote one “out of context” sentence of mine such as these from my posts that make me look as hatemongering as Muhammad. Please try. You will see that you cannot quote me being hateful to any human being even "out of the context". I wonder when will Muslims get tired of their "out of the context" mania. The violence and hate is the context of Quran. Hate is the message of Islam. Can't you see? Please tell me why is it that those Muslims who dedicate years going to madresas and read sharia are more prone to become terrorists? Shouldn’t it be the reverse? Please tell me why all Islamic countries have barbaric practices such as stoning, maiming, child abuse, etc. are poor and uncivilized compared to the rest of the world? Shouldn’t it be the reverse? Why non muslim nations have all the science, technology and knowledge and the godly Islamic nations are so ignorant? Doesn't this raise the red flag that something is wrong with Islam? You say that these verses are misunderstood, then let us change them so no one can misunderstand them. These are the very verses that the Taliban uses to commit their crimes. These are the verses that Khomeini kept quoting to murder hundreds of thousand of people in Iran. These are the verses that inspired the terrorists to destroy the WTC and the Pentagon. If they are misinterpreted and misunderstood by so many Muslims, let us delete them from the Quran. How can one say Islam is a religion of peace while there are so many verses in Quran that call for killing, maiming and crucifying the unbelievers? The average Muslim does not know these teachings. Most of them are very good people. But those who follow these teachings of Quran become Khomeinis and Bin Ladens. This is what we have to aviod. [This message has been edited by kafir4ever (edited 22 August 2005).] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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