Ahmed Al-Baghdadi is a Kuwaiti intellectual. he was sentenced to a year in prison, paying a 2000 KD fine (7000$) and he had to sign a paper in which he promises no to return back to crime again!!

Let's see what Ahmed's crime was like.
Ahmed learnt that the government wanted to increase the hours of teaching Quran and Islamic religion in schools and that would be on the expense of the music class. So Ahmed "committed his crime" and wrote the following on Assiyasah (The Politics) newspaper:

Is there no end for this backwardness?

I don't want my son to receive lessons from some ignorant people who teach him to disrespect women, non Muslims and many others and I don't want those culturally retarded uneducated people who choose the curriculums to fill my son's head with myths about Satan.
And frankly speaking, I don't want my son to learn *"Tajweed" because I don't want him to become a cleric or a Quran reader, reading the verses over dark graves. I also want to protect him from the possibility of joining terrorism whether practically or mentally.

Bottom line is, I want my son to have a future that makes me proud of him, his knowledge, mentality and work and I don't want to have him raised and taught in a way that makes me ashamed of his doings in the future.
Is there no end for this backwardness? (Emphasis in the original.)

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Originally posted by kafir4 ever:
For one thing, it means you don't get arrested for speaking out no matter how "outrageous" your speech may be.

Ahmed Al-Baghdadi is a Kuwaiti intellectual. he was sentenced to a year in prison, paying a 2000 KD fine (7000$) and he had to sign a paper in which he promises no to return back to crime again!!

Let's see what Ahmed's crime was like.
Ahmed learnt that the government wanted to increase the hours of teaching Quran and Islamic religion in schools and that would be on the expense of the music class. So Ahmed "committed his crime" and wrote the following on Assiyasah (The Politics) newspaper:

Is there no end for this backwardness?

I don't want my son to receive lessons from some ignorant people who teach him to disrespect women, non Muslims and many others and I don't want those culturally retarded uneducated people who choose the curriculums to fill my son's head with myths about Satan.
And frankly speaking, I don't want my son to learn *"Tajweed" because I don't want him to become a cleric or a Quran reader, reading the verses over dark graves. I also want to protect him from the possibility of joining terrorism whether practically or mentally.

Bottom line is, I want my son to have a future that makes me proud of him, his knowledge, mentality and work and I don't want to have him raised and taught in a way that makes me ashamed of his doings in the future.
Is there no end for this backwardness? (Emphasis in the original.)

Americans are often oblivious to their freedoms. Because they enjoy them without interruption, they take them for granted. It's often difficult for them to believe that other people don't have those same freedoms. As Mohammed points out, speech is only a free as the government allows it to be.

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Once he or she gets any of your DNA, I'd say the future of your child is pretty grim. You're a fanatic, obsessive, psychopath!

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Originally posted by kafir4 ever:
I love you too

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Originally posted by hassancheb:
Once he or she gets any of your DNA, I'd say the future of your child is pretty grim. You're a fanatic, obsessive, psychopath!

Get A Life!

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Originally posted by Nooralhaq20055:
Why is that children in America can't read a bible or a Torah or a Quran in school but they can in prison?

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Originally posted by KeepinItReal:
That's a good point. Also, why do prisoners get free cable, gym membership, and healthcare? Hmmm

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To prevent riots.

Honestly.

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Originally posted by KeepinItReal:
That's a good point. Also, why do prisoners get free cable, gym membership, and healthcare? Hmmm

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Facts about American Prisons:

* nearly 2 million americans are
incarcerated in the prison system
of the US

* The percentage of americans in the
prison system, has doubled since 1985

* One of 3 African American men in the US will go to prison in their lifetimes. This figure does not include jail, parole, or probation.

* It costs more to send a person to prison for a year than to Harvard University for a year.

* Of the 45 women on Death Row nationwide in 1993, almost half (approximately 49%) had a history of abuse and are there for the murder of an abusive spouse or lover. Most women imprisoned for killing an abusive partner are first-time offenders.

* Self-defense is involved approximately 7 times more frequently when women kill men than when men kill women. Over one-half of al women murdered are killed by a spouse or partner.

* The rate at which women are incarcerated is faster than men and women are the highest growing sector of the entire prison population. But this is not due to increases in more serious criminal behavior. In 1979, women were sent to prison for nonviolent crimes roughly 49% of the time. In 1986, women were sent to prison for nonviolent crimes roughly 59% of the time. In 1991, women were sent to prison for nonviolent crimes roughly 70% of the time.

* The US currently cages more people of color per capita than any other nation.

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Originally posted by Nooralhaq20055:
Why is that children in America can't read a bible or a Torah or a Quran in school but they can in prison?

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Originally posted by Snapdragon:
Because we have a mixed culture in America. Public schools are for learning about math, science, history, art, language..not about religion. That should be kept to the church, mosque, temple, etc. and to individual families.

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As adults, we are supposed to be mature and make our own decisions and take responsibilty for our actions. (well some people) Some of the fools in the prison actually think if they get a "god" while they are locked up, maybe they will be forgiven for their crimes/sins.

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Originally posted by Nooralhaq20055:
But the issue is why are they allowed in prisons but not in schools, jails are public and have a mixture of culture, and in jail you are there to learn to be a decent member of soceity and 'do your time'....so once you get there, you can read about religion but before, NO ??

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Originally posted by Snapdragon:
I believe this would have to do with age. As a child, we should not be pushed to "join" or "believe" something so special as religion. That is something that should be private and only for family to be a part of.

As adults, we are supposed to be mature and make our own decisions and take responsibilty for our actions. (well some people) Some of the fools in the prison actually think if they get a "god" while they are locked up, maybe they will be forgiven for their crimes/sins.

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Originally posted by Morgan:
Hmm why? so many muslim in jail 70% !!!!!
Religion did not help them

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please supply us with your stats, and in English please, confucious say: go back to school

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Originally posted by Nooralhaq20055:
please supply us with your stats, and in English please, confucious say: go back to school

[This message has been edited by Nooralhaq20055 (edited 24 October 2005).]

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Yeah, I know. What does this mean? 700 million Muslims are in jail????