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-Just Call Me Jari-
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Bush is a Conservative Economically he is just not a Libertarian Conservative(Like You)..LOL,

if that is the case then Obama is a Conservative because lord knows he is NOT a Progressive, He is a Blue Dog Democrat if we can call him a Democrat.

Bush approved of Tax cuts for Millionaires Hence the "Bush Tax cuts"..Im in favor of Milking the Golden Cow as much as the law allows. Bush is in favor of Deregulation, I say the Banks should'nt sneeze without regulation.

Im in favor of Taxing Companies that outsource Jobs, Bush supported outsourcing.

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Key part of The Patriot Act.."Unconstitutional"...But as long as a Republican passes it the Right Wing will accept it, had Obama done that they would cry like babies, but Obama the Republican in sheeps clothing reapproved the Patriot Act, so who am I kidding.

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We will have to disagree that Bush is an economic conservative. i think he is very close to your positions on economic issues.

In terms of Progressives jari, they will never hold power in America. People like Gold are on the outer fringe of american politics. Their policies are too utopian to ever be inacted by any American government. If you want to pine away for the day when progressives rule here you will always be frustrated. this is a capitalist nation. Capitalism has provided us with massive wealth and freedom and we will never give it up.

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Capitalism had nothing to do with Progressives, you have Progressive Capitalists BTW, what its about is people waking up to the reality that America has been hijacked by Right Wing Nut jobs, Republicans 20 years ago are more Liberal than the ones today.

and Me and Bush are no where near close on Economic Issiues, He is a Conservative but not a Libertarian. I can't stand Bush, never will and Im glad he is out of office, Although Obama is not too far removed from Bush.

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Conservatives would never favor the huge increases in liberal social spending George Bush puched through.

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You Mean the Billion Dollar Bailout that McCain Supported and that the Now Speaker of the House John Boehner CRIED for, the Trillions spent on pointless wars, the Billions given to CEO's and top Companies with his so called Tax Cut.

but I guess its the scraps if any he gave to the poor that gets you hot, After all as can be seen time after time, Republicans don't care about Welfare, umemployment, gov. healthcare etc....They just don't want US, the Middle class and the Poor to get those things. Its not a problem when they or their family take home Unemployment...

.... Its not a problem if the Rich get Corporate Welfare or if they Take Gov. Handouts for their companies.

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Jari, president Bush EXPANDED programs for the poor more than any administration in history.

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My Point still stands anything he did for the Poor is mere Chump change when compared to how the Rich got Millions....Billions.. under his regime. Like I posted Earlier Bush on the surface level gave Billions to Corporate Ceo's, Bankers, and Gov. contractors. but that does'nt bother a Conservative like you does it....its the little scraps he gave to poor Americans that gets your blood boiling. Bush in yall's mind was some Hero because he Gave the Rich Millions, and Obama is the Anti-Chist for God knows what reason when Obama has done the Same....and I don't want to hear about HealthCare when Republican Senators are getting Gov. Healthcare but Complain about Gov. Healthcare for the Middle Class and Poor.

Like I said you all Don't Hate Welfare, Gov. Handouts, and the Nanny State, You just hate when the Nanny state caters to the Poor..LOL

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The Funny Part is you all worship a Man Who was So Dirt Poor he did not even have a place to lay his head, and who was Famous for saying "Blessed be the Poor"...theirs is the Kingdom of heaven...LOL

Heaven Sounds like a Grand Place, won't be any conservatives there...

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Also I notice your Anti-Obama Rhetoric has vanished...What has the So called Socialist Super Lib, Bent over backward and Licked the boots of Conservatives enough to get you to stop slandering him...for the time being...

What was it Him Caving on the Public Option...

Him going to Cave on Social Security..

Him Going to Cut Spending on Education and Infrastucture...

Him going to Cut the EPA...

or Him Supporting Bush's Tax Cut...Yeah I think that was the Bootlick that has some of you Conservatives silent recently...

Enjoying your Moderate Conservative... Republican Bootlicking President.

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Jari, Are you saying we do nothing for the poor in America? You are not making sense. What do you want us to do for the poor? We have had a good social saftey net in place here for decades. You are thus saying we should GIVE them more?

Many of agree about corporate welfare but that has been a policy of both parties for years.
Keep in mind though that corporate power produces great standards of living for millions and millions of americans.

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No Hammer don't twist my words where did I say we don't do anything for the poor, my point is YOU CONSERVATIVES with your Slander and Hate Mongering make it seem like the Scum of the Earth Take Gov. Assistance and Welfare, but in reality YOU ALL in one form or another get a slice of the Nanny State and in my opinion a WAY BIGGER SLICE than any poor Ghetto Family on Welfare.


I know this because I used to think the same way when I voted and supported conservatives. Your Rhetoric is only aimed in one direction...The Poor. Never will you all bemoan Subsidies, Gov. Hand Outs for Companies and Gov. Loans...

Many conservatives Take Home Subsidies, Loans, Gov. Assistance, and Corporate Welfare in the Thousands, then come to find out some of you take home Unemployment, Are on Gov. Healthcare etc.

Like I said if the Nanny State did not exist many of you all would be on the Streets...

as a matter of fact Conservatives are some of the biggest activists for Gov. Intrusion on our lives..

Ban Abortion

Ban Gay Marriage

Ban Gays from serving in the Millitary

Ban Drugs

The Patriot Act

You all love the Nanny State its just when the Nanny caters to the Poor that gets you all hot and bothered...

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Now you are being silly Jari.

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I have seen some stuff about the war and understand that they are hitting a bank next but I don't know anything specifically that I would think can cause such great damage as is being claimed.what I understand is that they are leaking news or actions from all over the world that is sensitive and classified.

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The Obama administration is laying the groundwork for criminal charges against these people.
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