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This is simply nothing but colonialism under the guise of "eco-tourism". It is the same nonsense whites have been doing in Africa since they got there. They take the land from Africans, deprive them of the ability to hunt,fish and provide for themselves then claim that they are giving them a better life by making them servants and domestics for rich white hunters and travelers who live in the lap of luxury attended by black servants and slaves. And all of the money from these operations go to whites with blacks staying in the same dirt huts they were in when whites got there because the money does not go to Africans it goes to whites. And the sympathetic tone that they have towards blacks is actually designed to maintain the stereotype of Africans being too dumb and stupid to know how to manage their own lands and resorts and to be able to take the profits and benefit directly without the need for white stewardship. This is most absurdly obvious in how whites make it seem that after many thousands of years, somehow black Africans have not learned how to live with wild animals and needs whites to manage things for them...... But last I recall, African wildlife did not become extinct in many areas until whites arrived and began the trade in commodities like ivory, which caused animals to be slaughtered and left to rot, which was not a common practice of ancient Africans who used every part of the beast and never let it simply rot.
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Yeah, a giant safari for white people. Damn I will be so glad when the black folks start the ethnic cleansing!
Things are coming to a head, and I would give both my nuts to see a Rwanda-style purge of the foreigners. And not for any bullshit 90 days, I'm talking once this party starts it don't stop until Africa is invader-free. Europeans, Indians, Americans and most of all the Chinese and Arabs have GOT TO GO! But the Euros go first! Posts: 248 | From: Way Down South | Registered: Sep 2007
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Why don't you get up off of your dead ass and learn to help yourself and your AA compatriates out, instead of piss pot fantasizing about Africa.
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quote:Originally posted by Doug M: This is simply nothing but colonialism under the guise of "eco-tourism". It is the same nonsense whites have been doing in Africa since they got there. They take the land from Africans, deprive them of the ability to hunt,fish and provide for themselves then claim that they are giving them a better life by making them servants and domestics for rich white hunters and travelers who live in the lap of luxury attended by black servants and slaves. And all of the money from these operations go to whites with blacks staying in the same dirt huts they were in when whites got there because the money does not go to Africans it goes to whites. And the sympathetic tone that they have towards blacks is actually designed to maintain the stereotype of Africans being too dumb and stupid to know how to manage their own lands and resorts and to be able to take the profits and benefit directly without the need for white stewardship. This is most absurdly obvious in how whites make it seem that after many thousands of years, somehow black Africans have not learned how to live with wild animals and needs whites to manage things for them...... But last I recall, African wildlife did not become extinct in many areas until whites arrived and began the trade in commodities like ivory, which caused animals to be slaughtered and left to rot, which was not a common practice of ancient Africans who used every part of the beast and never let it simply rot.
Please outline your economic alternative that will provide services, jobs and infrastructural development for majority of Namibians.
What are the present economic realities faced by Namibia and how would you allocate resources to achieve your goals.
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What does blacks serving as domestics for whites who are on a "eco-tour" have to do with improving education or economic opportunity for Africans?
The alternative is to teach Africans how to own their OWN land, run THEIR OWN resorts and train them to be doctors, lawyers, scientists, engineers, entrepreneurs, industrialists and architects. That is how you build a people and an economy. Simply paying someone 5 cent a day to wait on whites hand and foot or to be "native" entertainment for whites is not progress in any sense of the term.
The point being that whites WANT Africans to be slaves to their comfort. They ARE NOT trying to make them into doctors, lawyers engineers or anyone who could CHALLENGE whites for control of African wealth and resources.
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My god you really are the stereotypical college radical. The question went right over your head didnt it? Its like the Zimbabwe question, you really don't know the first thing about running a state beyond those lefty theories you and your Jewish girlfriend read in your liberal arts college. All you do is tell us what is needed. Do you really think you're the only person who knows this? Are you that much of an egotist?!
Yes we need this and that; yes we need to do this and that. But how would you do it in the current global circumstances?
Read again carefully.
quote:Please outline your economic alternative that will provide services, jobs and infrastructural development for majority of Namibians.
What are the present economic realities faced by Namibia and how would you allocate resources to achieve your goals.
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The how is obvious, stop listening to the white NGOs, World Bank, and other foreigners who pretend to have "the answer" for Africa and who have NEVER done anything but pursue their own interests. Not ONE of these institutions has EVER improved the economic situation for Africa. In fact, many have made it worse. The reason is simple, they put WHITES and FOREIGNERS in control of the land, wealth, and labor of Africans, under the guise of altruism, which has nothing to do with what is wrong in Africa. What is wrong in Africa is that Africans do not control their own land, labor and resources, along with the wealth generated from it. Therefore, anything that does not address this as the primary issue for African economic distress is simply a gimmick designed to reinforce and maintain the fact of NON AFRICAN control of Africa's land, wealth, labor and resources, with the OBVIOUS result being more African poverty. It is really a simple issue. If you don't control and own the land, labor, wealth and resources, then you are poor. It isn't rocket science at all.
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You know Doug being a domestic servant may not seem like much of a job to you but it is a great opportunity for some people. These people are not going to be Chemical Engineers and you have to be realistic. Do you want the west to pull it's money out? What then? I read an article in Business Week a couple of years ago that predicted a huge increase in the number of immigrants into Africa from India. Africa may not always be dominated by black people as we live in a rapidly changing world. You may well end up with much more multi culturalism in Africa even than we have seen in the past.
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^ LOL As usual the nutty professor had to chime in! Of course with his comment on them not being "engineers" he doesn't realize that the US, Canada, and other Western nations in Europe are literally importing Africans to work as engineers in their industries. They know that like Asians many Africans also have a tradition of scholarship and education (one that preceeded European colonization). The unfortunate thing is that there are many Africans who are bright enough and educated enough to hold such professions, but there aren't enough job openings available in many of these African nations with poor economies (which were broken by the same European colonists). Thus many have no choice but to find employment in Western nations, and thus this predicament itself is also the result of the Western colonial legacy.-- that the best and brightest Africans are forced to give their skills to Westerners and not to their own homelands. Meanwhile many Western students including whites continue to do poorly academically which is why the West continues to rely on foreigners such as Africans for the more 'advanced' jobs such as engineering and science.
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quote:Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: You know Doug being a domestic servant may not seem like much of a job to you but it is a great opportunity for some people. These people are not going to be Chemical Engineers and you have to be realistic. Do you want the west to pull it's money out? What then? I read an article in Business Week a couple of years ago that predicted a huge increase in the number of immigrants into Africa from India. Africa may not always be dominated by black people as we live in a rapidly changing world. You may well end up with much more multi culturalism in Africa even than we have seen in the past.
Actually the plan for Africa has always been to depopulate it of its people, steal most of its money in terms of resources and wealth and then repopulate it with non Africans. That is not an "accident" or simply a sign of the times, it is simply the core of the capitalist agenda for Africa, which has absolutely NO DESIRE for black Africans to be in control of their wealth, land or resources or to be able to develop strong self sufficient economies for themselves run by themselves, where Africans are getting most of the benefit. The whole point is that the NGOs, World Bank, corporate giants, miners and industrialists have ALL been working together to bring this about for the last 100 years. Therefore, the idea that they are trying the HELP Africa through so called "aid" is simply a lie. It is not the case that "dumb Africans" have caused the current conditions by themselves simply because of their own inability to figure out how to put food in the ground and then pull it out and put it in their faces. The current conditions in Africa are a DIRECT result of over 300 years of European direct and willful acts to destroy Africans and reduce them to a state of dependency and to try and and all means to reduce their numbers to the point where they can make Africans nothing more than something you read about in history books. They did the same thing to many populations around the world in the name of 'progress' and they are still up to the same old game. They are only picking apart Africa and putting more and more of the land aside for FOREIGN control for the day when Africans are a minority in their own continent and the food production, mineral production, labor and wealth of the land is COMPLETELY in the hands of foreigners. And they have been making Africans servants and slaves for over 300 years and this has NEVER EVER benefited Africans in any way. But of course dumb retarded racists like Mr Patriots will claim that blacks should be thankful for the forced labor and "better life" that whites have given them in the Americas..... Maybe someone should enslave you and make you a servant and see how much YOU like the progress. Slavery and servitude is not progress it is SUBJUGATION and OPPRESSION retard and what you see in Africa today is the end result of such oppression. Controlling wealth distribution and the distribution of resources is the epitome of freedom and being able to control one's development as a society. If a community does NOT control the wealth and resource distribution of their community then they are simply enslaved by and controlled by those who do.
It is odd how after over 400 years of rape, pillage, murder, theft and plunder in Africe, the Western capitalists sit back and pretend to actually be trying TO HELP Africa. They have NEVER tried to help Africa. They have only been helping themselves. The ONLY answer is for Africans to start helping THEMSELVES and stop playing this LAME ASS game that they don't know how to feed themselves, clothe themselves and wash their own asses without whites doing it for them after being on this planet and doing just that for almost 200,000 years which is almost quadruple as long as any white person has been on the face of this planet.
There is more than enough rubber, steel, wood, aluminum, tin, concrete, asphalt, tar and petroleum in Africa to build every African country up to "Western" standards. But NONE of these resources are being used for this purpose. ALL of these resources are controlled PRIMARILY by foreigners and those foreigners ONLY CARE about using those resources for the benefit of THEMSELVES in terms of profit from selling those resources to their KINSMEN outside of Africa. Using those resources FOR AFRICANS is the LAST thing on their minds. And it is exactly that kind of AFRICA LAST version of voodoo economics policy that is practiced by the world bank and NGOS, who have no interest in actually USING the resources of Africa FOR AFRICANS.
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^ Doug, why do you even bother?? You know very well that Pat is the living relic of the Western Imperialists. He denies all historical reality of Africans ever having not only advanced civilizations of their own but independent and even wealthy economies before his ancestral ilk destroyed them. Now he spouts his "white man's burden" nonsense of European colonists responsible for bringing 'civilization' and 'wealth' into the African continent! LMAOPosts: 26286 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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