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Featured Article: Vitamin D Insufficiency Due to Insufficient Exposure to Sunlight and Related Pathology
By Lana R. Johnson 2010, Vol. 2 No. 12
Vitamin D Insufficiency and Related Pathology
In overcast regions such as the Pacific Northwest region of the United States, there are certain diseases that have an increased prevalence as compared to other areas of the nation. The climate of the Pacific Northwest during the winter months may lead to a higher incidence of these diseases due to vitamin D insufficiency resulting from a lack of sunlight. Additionally, the widespread use of sunscreen coupled with an indoors-oriented lifestyle leaves many people vulnerable to vitamin D insufficiency. Here we will examine the nature of vitamin D, its importance in various body functions and disease prevention, and methods to improve an individual’s vitamin D level.
Properties and Uses of Vitamin D in the Body
Vitamin D is not technically a vitamin. In its natural form, it is a prohormone that is created by the body; in contrast, vitamins are substances that are extracted from food and used as nutrients in the body. However, the term “vitamin” is commonly used and will be used in this essay for ease of understanding.
Vitamin D is often called “the sunshine vitamin”, and for good reason. It is synthesized in the skin of humans and other mammals when exposed to sunlight. There are four forms of vitamin D. The first form, cholecalciferol, is made by the skin when it is exposed to direct sunlight containing UVB rays. Cholecalciferol is also called vitamin D3, and is used in many supplements and in the fortification of food. The second form of vitamin D, calcidiol, is made from cholecalciferol in the liver and stored in the liver for future use. When blood is drawn to test for serum levels of vitamin D in a patient’s body, it is calcidiol that is being tested. The third form of vitamin D, calcitriol, is made from calcidiol in the kidneys. This is the active form of vitamin D, and it regulates calcium and displays properties that prevent cancer. The fourth form of vitamin D is not made in the body. It is called ergocalciferol, and is synthesized by irradiatng ergosterol with UV radiation. Ergosterol is derived from the ergot fungus. Ergocalciferol is often used in the supplementation of food, and once in the body it acts identically to cholecalciferol, and can be converted to calcidiol and calcitriol (Blake, 2007).
Traditionally, vitamin D has been viewed by researchers and physicians as functioning mainly to maintain bone density and prevent bone loss. Bone-softening diseases which have been attributed to vitamin D deficiency include rickets in children, and osteomalacia, osteopenia, and osteoporosis in adult patients (Moyad, 2009). While it is true that vitamin D plays a significant role in bone health, emerging research suggests that its presence or absence also contributes to the overall health of other body systems, including the immune system, the autoimmune system, the cardiovascular system, and the integumentary system (Hoffman, et al, 2010). However, according to Bordelon, et al (2009), “because the signs and symptoms of vitamin D deficiency are insidious or nonspecific, it often goes unrecognized and untreated.”
Factors Influencing Vitamin D Endogenesis
Humans evolved near the equator before migrating to distant corners of the prehistoric landmass. Our methods for synthesizing vitamin D were established at that time, and have not yet evolved to compensate for various factors that limit sun exposure.
Populations living at a latitude higher than 37° north of the equator in the Northern Hemisphere are at the greatest risk of developing vitamin D deficiency. In the United States, this translates roughly to a line drawn between San Francisco and Richmond, Virginia (Figure 1); anyone living north of that line has such reduced sun exposure in the autumn and winter months as to make vitamin D synthesis nearly impossible. Seattle is at a latitude of 47° north of the equator, which sets the population up for widespread vitamin D insufficiency. Garland (2003) explained that the storage form of vitamin D has a half life of approximately three weeks, so people in northern latitudes become deficient by December if they are relying solely on the sun for their vitamin D. United States divided above and below 37th parallel Figure 1: United States divided above and below 37th parallel
James Dowd, M.D. (2009) explained this concept in another way, saying that the ability to make vitamin D in the skin disappears in the autumn and does not return until the following spring. As the leaves fall from the trees, serum vitamin D levels fall as well. In regions that have a winter shorter than ten weeks, this decrease in serum vitamin D may not have any effect on overall health because the body’s stores will be enough to sustain the people who live there. In regions that have a longer winter, however, individuals’ vitamin D stores will be depleted by January. The only form of vitamin D available to these people in the winter comes from fat stores and dietary supplementation.
Industrialization has contributed to widespread vitamin D deficiency. Whereas humans used to spend many hours outside every day working in fields, on farms, and (pre-agricultural revolution) hunting and foraging for food, modern humans in industrialized nations work largely indoors. Time is spent commuting in cars, working all day in factories and office buildings, and leisure time is spent in windowless malls, theaters, or restaurants. When venturing out into the sun, the medical establishment has so forcefully encouraged sunscreen use, vitamin D is often not produced even while standing in direct sunlight if sunscreen is used as recommended.
In addition to widespread sunscreen use, clothing choices can predict an individual’s serum vitamin D levels. In populations whose cultural or religious garb covers most of their skin, the amount of vitamin D produced in the tiny areas of exposed skin is not enough to meet minimum serum vitamin D levels. Supplementation and dietary inclusion of vitamin D-containing foods is the most realistic recommendation for members of these populations, as increasing sun exposure would require breaking their own societal laws. Research has been done on hair-coated animals such as dairy cows in order to determine the effect of their hair and other coverings on vitamin D synthesis. The purpose of these studies is to examine the assumption that if the cows produce vitamin D in their hair much like humans produce vitamin D in our skin, clothing the cows would obstruct much of the vitamin D production. Hymøller, et al (2010) designed a study that examined dairy cows and varied their level of sun exposure using garments. According to the concluding statements of this study, “the [serum vitamin D level] of the cows after 4 weeks of access to summer sunlight depended heavily on the size of the exposed body surface area. The larger the exposed body surface area of a given cow, […] the higher the serum vitamin D level of the cow at the end of that study.” These findings indicate that cows in their natural state synthesize vitamin D in their hair much like humans synthesize vitamin D in the skin, but adding clothing to the cow interferes with its vitamin D making ability. This experiment serves to underscore the importance of direct sun-to-skin exposure for humans, as clothing prevents or severely limits the amount of vitamin D produced in the skin.
Individuals with darker skin tones are naturally more susceptible to vitamin D insufficiency and deficiency. Progressively darker skin is progressively more susceptible to vitamin D insufficiency. Darker skin, which contains more melanin than relatively lighter skin, offers natural protection from UV radiation. This means that darker-skinned individuals need to spend more time in the sun before pre-vitamin D cells in the skin are prompted to produce vitamin D. According to Hall, et. al. (2010), “Melanin, the principal skin pigment, reduces but does not block cholecalciferol [vitamin D3] synthesis. Thus, longer periods of sun exposure are required for equivalent vitamin D synthesis in people of African ancestry compared with those of European ancestry.” Also, “at all latitudes the skin must have enough melanin to block harmful solar UV while letting in enough UVB for vitamin D synthesis. Since the tropical zone has intense year-round sunlight, even very dark skin can produce sufficient vitamin D for the body’s needs. […] however, when dark-skinned humans move to the temperate zone […] their skin now screens out too much UVB and produces too little vitamin D.” (Frost, 2009). According to Cannell (2008), people with dark skin need to spend 5-10 times longer in direct sun exposure than do people with light skin to achieve similar vitamin D production.
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The point of this thread: Albinos know about Albinos. If you are not an Albino, take what they say with a grain of salt.
Current practice may over-diagnose vitamin D deficiency
Date: November 20, 2013 Source: Massachusetts General Hospital
Summary: The current "gold standard" test for measuring vitamin D status may not accurately diagnose vitamin D deficiency in black individuals. A team of researchers has found that genetic differences in a vitamin D carrier protein may explain the discrepancy between the prevalence of diagnosed vitamin D deficiency in black Americans and a lack of the usual symptoms of vitamin deficiency.
The current "gold standard" test for measuring vitamin D status may not accurately diagnose vitamin D deficiency in black individuals. In an article in the Nov. 21 New England Journal of Medicine, a team of researchers report finding that genetic differences in a vitamin D carrier protein referred to as D-binding protein may explain the discrepancy between the prevalence of diagnosed vitamin D deficiency in black Americans -- based on measuring the molecule 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25OHD) -- and a lack of the usual symptoms of vitamin deficiency.
The essential role of vitamin D in maintaining bone health is well recognized, but while measurement of 25OHD alone consistently classifies from 70 to 90 percent of black Americans as vitamin D deficient, the usual consequences of deficiency -- such as low bone density and increased fracture risk -- are actually less prevalent among black individuals. That inconsistency led the team led by Ravi Thadhani, MD, MPH, chief of the Division of Nephrology in the Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) Department of Medicine, to take a closer look at whether current methods accurately determine vitamin D deficiency.
The investigators examined data from more than 2,000 participants in HANDLS (Healthy Aging in Neighborhoods of Diversity Across the Life Span), a larger National Institutes of Health (NIH)-sponsored study, led by Michele K. Evans, MD, co-corresponding author of the current report, and Alan B. Zonderman, PhD, also a co-author. HANDLS is prospective, long-term, epidemiologic study of age-associated health disparities in socioeconomically diverse black and white individuals in the city of Baltimore. Participants -- adults ages 30 to 64 -- were interviewed and received medical examinations between 2004 and 2009.
For the current study, researchers analyzed levels of 25OHD, levels and genetic variants of D-binding protein, and levels of calcium and parathyroid hormone -- another marker of vitamin D deficiency -- along with bone density readings in almost 1,200 white and around 900 black participants. The results indicated that black participants had significantly lower levels of both 25OHD and D-binding protein, compared with white participants and also showed that about 80 percent of the difference in D-binding protein levels could be explained by genetic variation. However, bone density and calcium levels were higher in black participants, and while their parathyroid hormone levels also were higher, the difference between black and white participants was slight.
"Black people are frequently treated for vitamin D deficiency, but we may not be measuring the right form of vitamin D to make that diagnosis," says Thadhani, who is senior and co-corresponding author of the NEJM report. "While our finding that 80 percent of black participants in this study met criteria for vitamin D deficiency is consistent with previous studies, we were surprised to find no evidence of problems with bone health. Most vitamin D in the bloodstream is tightly bound to D-binding protein and is not active. When we determined the concentrations of circulating non-bound vitamin D, which would be available to cells, we found that levels of this form were equivalent between black and white participants, which suggested to us that these black individuals may not be truly deficient."
He adds, "Although currently there are no commercially available assays that directly measure bioavailable levels of 25OHD, these results suggest that such assays would more accurately identify those with true vitamin D deficiency, allowing us to direct treatment toward those who really need it. Additional studies need to be conducted to establish optimal levels of bioavailable 25ODH across all racial and ethnic groups." Thadhani is a professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School.
Evans, who is deputy scientific director and chief of the Health Disparities Research Section at the National Institute on Aging Intramural Research Program (NIA-IRP), notes, "This study confirms the value of addressing clinical questions from a health disparities standpoint that overcomes barriers to inclusion of diverse populations in biomedical research."
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How A Vitamin D Test Misdiagnosed African-Americans
by Richard Knox November 20, 2013
By the current blood test for vitamin D, most African-Americans are deficient. That can lead to weak bones. So many doctors prescribe supplement pills to bring their levels up.
But the problem is with the test, not the patients, according to a new study. The vast majority of African-Americans have plenty of the form of vitamin D that counts — the type their cells can readily use.
The research resolves a long-standing paradox.
"The population in the United States with the best bone health happens to be the African-American population," says Dr. Ravi Thadhani, a professor of medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital and lead author of the study. "But almost 80 percent of these individuals are defined as having vitamin D deficiency. This was perplexing."
The origin of this paradox is a fascinating tale of genes interacting with geography. More on that later.
To unravel the mystery, Thadhani and his colleagues looked closely at various forms of vitamin D in the blood of 2,085 Baltimore residents, black and white. They focused on a form of the vitamin called 25-hydroxyvitamin D, which makes up most of the vitamin circulating in the blood. It's the form that the standard test measures.
The 25-hydroxy form is tightly bound to a protein, and as a result, bone cells, immune cells and other tissues that need vitamin D can't take it up. It has to be converted by the kidneys into a form called 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D.
For Caucasians, blood levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D are a pretty good proxy for how much of the bioavailable vitamin they have. But not for blacks.
That's because blacks have only a quarter to a third as much of the binding protein, Thadhani says. So the blood test for the 25-hydroxy form is misleading. His study finds that because of those lower levels of the protein, blacks still have enough of the bioavailable vitamin, which explains why their bones look strong even though the usual blood tests say they shouldn't.
"The conclusion from this study is that just because your total levels are low, it doesn't mean we need to replace vitamin D" using supplements, Thadhani says. The study was published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.
The reason people of African descent have far less protein-bound vitamin D is probably related to the geographic origins of the human race. Our earliest ancestors lived near the equator in Africa, where sunlight was plentiful and intense year-round.
Vitamin D is synthesized in the skin when sunlight strikes it. When sunlight is deficient, the vitamin has to come from dietary sources such as eggs and fish oil. For vitamin D supplements, more isn't necessarily better.
Humans living in sunny climates make plenty of vitamin D on their own. In fact, one reason for the high degree of skin pigmentation in people of African descent is to prevent the synthesis of too much vitamin D, which can be toxic.
Early humans didn't need to store up reserves of vitamin D, so they didn't need as much of the binding protein, whose function is to squirrel the vitamin away in a form where it can be used later.
"Everyone who came out of Africa had the ancestral genotype associated with lower vitamin D-binding proteins," Thadhani says. "When humans moved to areas with less sunlight, a different genotype evolved. The further north they went, the more people needed reserves of vitamin D. So D-binding protein levels went up."
And that genetic difference in vitamin D-binding proteins is what researchers have finally figured out.
Reducing dietary salt and alcohol, exercising, not smoking and maintaining a healthy weight are other lifestyle tweaks known to help prevent or reduce high blood pressure, doctors say.
Dr. Michael Holick, a leading authority on vitamin D at Boston University Medical School, tells Shots that the new research is prompting him to resurrect blood samples from earlier studies to figure out whether the ill effects of low vitamin D in African-Americans and Caucasians are related to low levels of the bioavailable form or the protein-bound form.
While the effect of vitamin D on bone health is undisputed, Holick says, "there's a lot of controversy about [the vitamin's effect on] hypertension, diabetes, cancer and infectious diseases."
Meanwhile Holick, who wrote an editorial in the journal accompanying Thadhani's study, intends to keep giving his African-American patients vitamin D supplements when their blood levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D are low, even though they may not need the pills to maintain strong bones.
"There's no downside to supplementation, so it's not a big deal," Holick says.
But Thadhani says doctors should hold off on prescribing vitamin D until they do other tests to determine whether their African-American patients are really vitamin D deficient. Those tests include blood levels of calcium, bone density tests and parathyroid hormone levels.
There is currently no approved test for the bioavailable 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D, although Thadhani and his colleagues are working on one and have filed for a patent.
He says he used to take vitamin D supplements "until I realized there are genetic differences, then I stopped. I've looked at my bioavailable levels of vitamin D. Now I'm comforted to know that I'm not deficient."
VITAMIN D3 TOXICITY AND BLACKS IN NORTH AMERICA – IRONLION
MAY 17, 2010 DON JAIDE LEAVE A COMMENT EDIT Vitamin D is potentially dangerous in unknown levels and can lead to hypercalcemia and hyperphosphatemia…See http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp
Too much vit D3 is dangerous and poisonous but no-one knows what is too much or what is too little in the medical world.
“Past attempts to define “normal” circulating 25(OH)D were seriously flawed. To properly define “normal” 25(OH)D status in humans, it makes more sense to measure 25(OH)D in “healthy subjects” who are sunbathers, fieldworkers, construction workers, or other individuals who work outside, who are not overly clothed, and who are without sunblock. Humans did not evolve in today’s sun-shy culture, so “normal” with respect to circulating 25(OH)D levels should not be defined by the current average or median population level. In sun-rich environments where clothing or cultural practices do not prevent sun exposure, circulating 25(OH)D ranges from 135 to 225 nmol/L (54–90 µg/L) (1,14,15). Thus, we must be very careful how we define “normal” or adequate or sufficient with respect to circulating 25(OH)D.”
“…..Thus, we must be very careful how we define “normal” or adequate or sufficient with respect to circulating 25(OH)D.”
“…Thus, we must be very careful how we define “normal” or adequate or sufficient with respect to circulating 25(OH)D….””
“They say that serum concentration of 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) is the best indicator of vitamin D status.
They tell you the higher your 25-hydroxyvitamin D, the better . Maybe for the Euro-amero so-called whites. But definitely not for AAs, not for Africans and not for the Indians, Arabs and the East Asians. High 25-hydroxyvitamin D is a killer…
Now Melaninated people, read below and now think twice before you run off to the next corner drug store to buy your vitamin D fix:
High Levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D and AAs:
“Higher levels of 25-hydroxyvitamin D seem to be positively correlated with aorta and carotid CP in African Americans but not with coronary CP. These results contradict what is observed in individuals of European descent”. One study found an elevated risk of ischaemic heart disease in Southern India in individuals whose vitamin D levels were above 89 ng/mL
Freedman et al. (2010) have found that serum vitamin D correlates in African Americans, but not in Euro-Americans, with calcified atheroscleratic plaque.
“…there is evidence to suggest that dietary vitamin D may be carried by lipoprotein particles into cells of the artery wall and atherosclerotic plaque, where it may be converted to active form by monocyte-macrophages.
These findings raise questions regarding the effects of vitamin D intake on atherosclerotic calcification and cardiovascular risk.” meaning heart diseases,…anemias, bad blood circulation, cardio (heart) vascular (arteries, veins,and capillaries)…
Vitamin D3 is used to fortify milk, and milk products all across North America.
North America has the highest rate of Cardio-Vascular diseases. It is one of the biggest killerof Blacks in America.
“…the reader needs to know that the highest concentrations of 7-dehydrocholesterol are found in the stratum basale and stratum spinosum.
Accordingly, these two layers have the greatest capability for production of previtamin D3 and vitamin D3, whereas the other layers have a lesser capability…
The second most prevalent cells are the melanocyte cells, which produce the pigment melanin.
The melanocytes are mostly located in the innermost layer of the epidermis, the stratum basale….” {i.e. where the vitamin D3 percursor is mostly found…upon stimulation by the UVB}
So here we see, that vitamin D3 is produced by melanocytes, as well as adjacent keratinocytes (skin cells that make keratin)….
Melanocytes are the cells that are responsible for the dark skin of present day Africans and African Americans.
So how come they keep telling you that your God-given melanin prevents the sun-light from entering your skin in order to make Vitamin D?
Someone is surely manipulating the medical data, but for what purpose? For your harm ofcourse. The system was designed to murder you melaninated people and keep you down.
Recall that most food in North America is already supplemented with synthetic vitamin D. Recall too that excess vitamin D could lead to heart failure as the heart is quickly calified by calcitrates (or calcium precusors also known as vitamin D).
Recall that African-Americans have one of the highest rates of heart diseases in North America. Recall too that the first step the Doctor takes when you start suffering heart problems is to put you on de-calcifiers or calcium blockers. I fcalcium and vitamin D aka calcitrate were so helpful, why would they hurt the human heart and blood vessels.
The morale is this, if you feel as a black person that you need vitamin D or calcium, source them natural. Get enough sunshine, eat foods that contain vitamin D and calcium like artichoke, fish bone, chicken bones (now you know why black people in Africa eat bony chickens) etc.
But for goodness sake, avoid or reduce synthetic vitamin D. It will lead you to early death given the discussion above.
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The difference between blacks and albinos is obviously, melanin. Specially, Eumelanin.
As it pertains to Vitamin D and calcium, Eumelanin allows blacks to absorb and store excess Vitamin D until it is needed. The absence of Eumelanin in albinos means that their ability to store or warehouse excess vitamins is negated . Hence, the reason why Vitamin D comparisons appear to be higher in albinos than blacks.
A recent medical study at Purdue University, Racial Differences in Bone Turnover and Calcium Metabolism in Adolescent Females reveals that when foods or vitamins are consumed by black and albino females, less of these vitamins are excreted via urine or faecal matter by black females relative to Albino as shown below.
Racial Differences in Bone Turnover and Calcium Metabolism in Adolescent Females
Departments of Foods and Nutrition (R.J.B., B.R.M., O.W., C.M.W.) and Statistics (G.P.M.), Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana 47907; Division of Neonatology (M.E.W.), Georgetown University Medical Center, Washington, D.C. 20007; University of Nebraska (M.M., D.L.S.), Lincoln, Nebraska 68588; and Indiana University School of Medicine (M.P.), Indianapolis, Indiana 46223
Blacks develop a higher peak bone mass than whites which is associated with a reduced risk for bone fracture. The physiological basis for the difference in bone mass was investigated by metabolic balance and calcium kinetic studies in adolescent black and white girls. The hypothesis that the greater peak bone mass in blacks compared with whites is due to suppressed bone resorption was tested. Subjects were housed in a supervised environment for 3 wk during which time they consumed a controlled diet and collected all excreta. Subjects were given stable calcium isotopes orally and intravenously after 1 wk adaptation.
TABLE 2. Calcium metabolism and bone turnover in black and white girls (mean +/-; SD )
Balance study
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Dietary Ca (mmol/d)--28.2 +/- 1.9 ---33.2 +/- 2.5 Urinary Ca (mmol/d)--0.93 +/- 0.76---2.65 +/- 1.1 Fecal Ca (mmol/d)----16.5 +/- 5.3----22.5 +/- 2.9 Net Ca retention-----11.5 +/- 6.1----7.3 +/- 4.1
If you view the absorption rate, black females absorb calcium at over 55% of intake while white females absorb at approx. 40%. White female excrete over 50% more of in taken vitamins than black females in urine, and approx. 10% via fecal matter. In bone deposition, black females achieve close to 50% while white females a little over 30%. Black females retain almost double the store of calcium relative to white females.
So, what does this study tell you about the validity of lower Vitamin D levels in black females?
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Eumelanin allows blacks to absorb and store excess Vitamin D until it is needed. The absence of Eumelanin in albinos means that their ability to store or warehouse excess vitamins is negated . Hence, the reason why Vitamin D comparisons appear to be higher in albinos than blacks.
^^ Every sentence here is a lie
and the last remark doesn't even make sense as a lie following the other lies
Eumelanin does not store Vitamin D or process Vitamin D Eumelanin is the dark pigment in the top layer of skin. Vitamin D is processed in the lowermost layer of skin. Narmerthoth knows this but he keeps promoting lies. The Eumelanin is conentrated in the dark pigmented top layer of skin (top black line on below chart" The function of this dark pigment is to limit the amount of sunlight to penetrate into the lowest layer of skin the stratum basale where Vitamin D is processed (red layer on chart). A certain amount of sunlight is beneficial for Vitamin D production. Too much causes cancer. Dark skin is a natural sunblock it works by trapping the sunlight. The remaining sunlight gets through and is processed in the deeper layer of skin.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: How A Vitamin D Test Misdiagnosed African-Americans
by Richard Knox November 20, 2013
Humans living in sunny climates make plenty of vitamin D on their own. In fact, one reason for the high degree of skin pigmentation in people of African descent is to prevent the synthesis of too much vitamin D, which can be toxic.
Early humans didn't need to store up reserves of vitamin D, so they didn't need as much of the binding protein, whose function is to squirrel the vitamin away in a form where it can be used later.
"Everyone who came out of Africa had the ancestral genotype associated with lower vitamin D-binding proteins," Thadhani says. "When humans moved to areas with less sunlight, a different genotype evolved. The further north they went, the more people needed reserves of vitamin D. So D-binding protein levels went up."
And that genetic difference in vitamin D-binding proteins is what researchers have finally figured out.
PUBLISHED: 19:09 EST, 7 October 2014 | UPDATED: 20:44 EST, 7 October 2014
How skin cancer leapt after bikinis hit the beaches: Rate went up 400% between the 1930s and 1960s
Twenties swimwear exposed around 20 per cent of men and women's skin Skimpy outfits meant rise to 80 per cent for women and 89 per cent for men Modern-day bikinis expose 92 per cent of women's skin to harmful UV rays Cases of deadliest skin cancer rose from 1,800 in 1975 to 13,000 today
The bikini could be to blame for increasing rates of skin cancer, researchers have concluded after analysing 100 years of beachwear. Skimpy swimming costumes which became fashionable in the 1940s exposed more of the body to sunlight than ever before. And with that greater exposure came a greater risk of melanoma, the most dangerous type of skin cancer. The study found that even taking into account increasingly early diagnosis and wider reporting of cancer, changing tastes in clothing must have played their part too. The team from New York University’s Langone Medical Centre said that in the early 1900s tanned skin was frowned upon as being working class - and porcelain skin was prized. In the 1920s men’s and women’s swimwear was very conservative and exposed around 23 per cent and 18 per cent of the total skin surface area respectively. That all changed in 1946 when French designer Louis Reard invented the bikini which was quickly adopted in the US and then the rest of the world. But it increased skin exposure in women to 80 per cent as most of their body was open to the elements. Men’s skin exposure also went up to 89 per cent as the swimming top was replaced by a bare chest and shorts. The study says: ‘People also began to enjoy more leisure time and to favour swimwear and sportswear that progressively covered less skin. ‘Voices that raised concern about the dangers of UV exposure were largely ignored.’ The study points to actresses like Bond Girl Ursula Andress as popularising the tan which became associated with notions of ‘sexy, young, healthy, and wealthy women’. Yet from the 1930s to the 1960s US cancer rates in men and women increased by 69 per cent and 18 per cent. Melanoma incidence went up by more than 300 per cent in men and 400 per cent in women. The study says: ‘This increase in melanoma incidence occurred in parallel with changes in fashion, travel, and leisure that resulted in increased skin and UV exposure.’
The authors add that in more recent years the rising use of tanning salons has increased the rise in melanoma rates further. The study found that in recent years the bikini has become even more skimpy and even more damaging to women. With the emergence of ‘strapless tops and low-rise bottoms’ it now has a 92 per cent skin exposure, more than men who have stayed at 89 per cent. The researchers lay the blame for the popularity of tanning at the door of women’s magazines and due to ‘celebrity promotion’ during the last century.
Modern designs have increased the amount of skin exposed to nearly 92 per cent. Cases of malignant melanoma, the deadliest form of skin cancer, have risen to 13,000 a year from 1,800 in 1975 In Britain figures from Cancer Research UK show that more than 13,000 people a year develop malignant melanoma - the most deadly type of skin cancer. The total is expected to surge to 20,000 a year by 2027. In 1975 the figure was just 1,800. The shocking rise has been blamed on the legacy of sunshine package holidays which became popular in the 1960s. Many of the patients being diagnosed today suffered cancer-causing sunburn in their youth, experts have said. Adding to the problem was in the 1960s - often dubbed the ‘Bronze Age’ - few people were aware of the dangers of sunbathing in the way they are now, meaning they unknowingly caused themselves long term damage. Since then the majority have shied away from a deep tan popularised by the likes of George Hamilton including many celebrities, for whom a healthy glow is considered enough. Among those who were have been treated for skin cancer in the UK is Tiny De Vries, a 63-year-old businesswoman and author from Bath. She regularly went bright red after tanning all day on cheap package holidays to Spain during the 1960s and 70s. In an interview she has said: ‘I’m far more cautious these days, but 40 years ago no one knew any better. How I wished I’d been more aware of the dangers before it was too late.’ How to spot the signs of skin cancer and stay safe in the sun
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To an extent it is unatural for people to live in winter in places like Mongolia, New York, Paris, etc, much of the Northern hemisphere Humans black or white cannot survive there without clothing (wearing animals skins etc)
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Eumelanin allows blacks to absorb and store excess Vitamin D until it is needed. The absence of Eumelanin in albinos means that their ability to store or warehouse excess vitamins is negated . Hence, the reason why Vitamin D comparisons appear to be higher in albinos than blacks.
^^ Every sentence here is a lie
and the last remark doesn't even make sense as a lie following the other lies
Eumelanin does not store Vitamin D or process Vitamin D
As far as I and every other person on the site know Lionese, you are the site's number 1 liar and the consistency and frequency of your lies has no peers.
In the future, rather than lying and leaving yourself open to (more) exposure, why don't you try something strange for a change and just admit your ignorance, then just ask to be schooled.
Quantification of Ca(2+) binding to melanin supports the hypothesis that melanosomes serve a functional role in regulating calcium homeostasis.
Calcium regulation in melanocytes affects numerous biological pathways including protecting the redox balance in the cell and regulating the supply of substrate, l-tyrosine, for melanogenesis. The pigment contained in the melanocytes, melanin, has been implicated in maintaining calcium homeostasis in the cell and is known to be involved with calcium ion regulation in the inner ear. Herein, the association constant for Ca(2+) binding to Sepia melanin is determined by isothermal titration calorimetry to be 3.3 (+/-0.2) x 10(3)/M. This value is comparable with other well-established intracellular calcium-binding proteins that serve to buffer calcium concentrations, lending further support to the hypothesis that melanosomes serve as intracellular mediators of calcium homeostasis in melanocytes.
Homeostasis, also spelled homoeostasis (from Greek: ὅμοιος, "hómoios", "similar"), is the property of a system in which variables are regulated so that internal conditions remain stable and relatively constant. Examples of homeostasis include the regulation of temperature and the balance between acidity and alkalinity (pH). It is a process that maintains the stability of the human body's internal environment in response to changes in external conditions.
Calcium binding in pigmented and albino eyes
The localization of calcium binding sites in eyes was determined autoradiographically after extracting endogenous Ca from tissue sections and replacing it with 45Ca. The strongest labeling was associated with pigmented tissues due to the high concentration of melanin, which was shown to bind Ca effectively and in a pH-dependent fashion. The second strongest binding was over the tapetum lucidum of the cat eye, and moderate labeling was associated with eye muscles and epithelium and endothelium of the cornea. The neural retina was generally more lightly labeled than the surrounding tissue of the eye; here the plexiform layers stood out in comparison to the nuclear layers, as did a band located internal to the photoreceptor outer segments. The possibility that the Ca buffering capacity of melanin may represent the common denominator for the various neurological defects found in hypopigmentation mutants is discussed. Pigmented eye cups accumulated about twice as much label as the albino ones
Each study proves the fact that calcium binds and is retained (stored) by Eumelanin (black) and not so much by Phaomelanin (Yellow) and almost not at all in albino. This is due to specific PH differences in Eumelanin versus Phaomelanin where the former carries a postive or neutral PH and the latter a negative PH.
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As the above "Recent" studies and articles demonstrate (circa 2013), as expected from the "Original Humans". Blacks are perfectly adapted to inhabit every part of Planet Earth: When the Sun is too strong, they block it, and excrete the excess. When Sunlight is often too weak (as in Winter), in Summer and peak times, they store it for later use. But what is really telling is when the Albino People had Scientific proof that Blacks were in fact, perfectly suited to inhabit the Northern Climes.
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As you have shown: That proof was discovered in 2003 by a group scientists from several American research Universities, lead by R.J. Bryant. Therefore, all of those pseudo studies, and Articles after 2003, claiming that Blacks could not get enough Vitamin "D" in the North, and were ill-suited for life in the Northern Climes, were really just ruses and lies to make it appear that "White" Skin actually had a Natural Function, and therefore Europeans were really a "NEW" Race, and not just the Albinos of Blacks (Dravidians).Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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Another way of looking at it that darker skin is not needed for Northern climates, so that is a relaxed constraint on selective adaptation Very dark skin is only needed or higher sunlight conditions to prevent skin cancer, it's a protective barrier Take away the condition and the reaction to it is also taken away. In other words if black people settle in Northern climates, over thousands of year they will begin to lighten. Likewise white people in high sunlight countries will eventually darken. That's the way the world works No need to even mention Vitamin D But realize, that when people settle in a new location, these changes may not occur for thousands of years. Then a light skin gene mutation occurs and then the gradual process of lightening occurs. Not every popualtion is affected. There are exceptions, but it is a broader pattern and the genes are identified
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: it appear that "White" Skin actually had a Natural Function, and therefore Europeans were really a "NEW" Race, and not just the Albinos of Blacks (Dravidians).
India is at the same latitude with much of Africa even paraelling Sudan in it's Southern half, narurally people are darker there
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^^^ this garbage not from a scientific text. It's a racist propaganda piece
The earliest domestic relatives of eggplant described in Chinese documents had round and green fruits,
and thinking this has any relation to humans means your brain must be made of califlower
LOL. You are such a boring, lying dunce.
That picture comes from the periodical, Pigment Cell and melanoma publication. A mainstream melanin research institute. Although they are naturally a racist group, a part of the larger racist society, their racism isn't exactly in the reverse direction as you so ignorantly imply. Their goal is to understand the mysteries of melanin so that one day they may genetically cure themselves.
Why are your Ashkenazi masters making you degrade yourself to earn a living by acting the fool on this site?
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Another way of looking at it that darker skin is not needed for Northern climates, so that is a relaxed constraint on selective adaptation Very dark skin is only needed or higher sunlight conditions to prevent skin cancer, it's a protective barrier Take away the condition and the reaction to it is also taken away. In other words if black people settle in Northern climates, over thousands of year they will begin to lighten. Likewise white people in high sunlight countries will eventually darken. That's the way the world works No need to even mention Vitamin D But realize, that when people settle in a new location, these changes may not occur for thousands of years. Then a light skin gene mutation occurs and then the gradual process of lightening occurs. Not every popualtion is affected. There are exceptions, but it is a broader pattern and the genes are identified
That "Made-Up" Nonsense has just been "Scientifically" debunked - and yet you persist.
Honestly Lioness, I don't think that even the Africans believe you now.
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Another way of looking at it that
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darker skin is not needed for Northern climates , so that is a relaxed constraint on selective adaptation Very dark skin is only needed or higher sunlight conditions to prevent skin cancer , it's a protective barrier Take away the condition and the reaction to it is also taken away. In other words if black people settle in Northern climates, over thousands of year they will begin to lighten. Likewise white people in high sunlight countries will eventually darken. That's the way the world works No need to even mention Vitamin D But realize, that when people settle in a new location, these changes may not occur for thousands of years. Then a light skin gene mutation occurs and then the gradual process of lightening occurs. Not every popualtion is affected. There are exceptions, but it is a broader pattern and the genes are identified
Your comments above are why it is totally useless for you to pretend being black.
Your thoughts, reactions, and resulting compulsive lying are all consistent traits of a lying ass albino.
After 4 years of teaching your ignorant ass you still resist cultivation, just like albinos always react, in denial.
Lionese
Black Eumelanin is much more than just skin protection.
Your lying ass idol here;
One of the main propagators of the "Europeans whitened recently in Europe" garbage paper was lecturing this nonsense to a class when one of her more astute students asked her if melanin lost in Europeans only resulted in less skin protection. Not being able to lie about this fundamental trade-off she was forced to confess that no, another trait that is lost with melanin depletion is lowered immunity response. This is becasue the human body immunity system is directly tied into it's melanin network, as shown in the photo I posted in the above post.
What else is lost in Eumelanin depletion?
-Eyesight : Blue eyes are defective and an albino trait. Lower melanin content equates to lower capture of free radicals.
- Unbalanced Serotonin/Dopamine levels. Causes multiple mental ailments and why more than half of albinos are currently taking Anti-depressants.
- Inability to capture/Store energy from sunlight. Don't believe that "Blacks must stay in the sun longer to capture sunlight energy" nonsense. Blacks absorb in ALL UV spectrums as well as all other radiation spectrums while Albinos (whites) are limited to one spectrum (580nm) which corresponds to the sulphur based phaomelanin which dominates their systems.
As you can see, the energy stored in visible light is much lower than Infra-red, X-Ray, etc. Black pigment is able to absorb these higher energy bands while albinos cannot.
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Mike, Narmer cut the albino crap, we Whites are NOT albinos. Everyone knows the two of you only use albino as a racist epithet towards Whites meant to degrade, demean & dehumanize us due to your intolerable hatred you have towards us.
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I don't know how many of you, especially those across the pond, pay close attention to U.S. politics.
A very interesting phenomenon is taking place: according to pollsters President Barach Obama has only a 40-44% approval rating. That compares to 47% for Ronald Reagan at the height of his Iran-Contra scandal - which he was caught lying about.
For Obama, several former staffers have turned on him, and seemingly everyone with White Skin is complaining that he did or did not do something, or that he did this or that badly.
One pundit remarked wryly, "IS THERE ANY WAY THAT HE CAN GET OUT OF THIS?
At which point "REALITY" was brought back when the guest replied:
Get out of it??
Get out of What?
There is no SCANDAL!
He has not done anything Wrong! (This was a White person saying that).
And with that we come right back to the subject of this thread.
Think back to Obama's election - Whites were so busy congratulating themselves that they had elected a Black president. It's like they were all saying: See, we really ARE good people.
As I wrote at the time, Whites didn't really elect Obama, he only got about 44% of the White vote.
But back to the present:
Not only hasn't Obama done anything wrong: Lets Compare past recent presidents.
1) Nixon was to be impeached for high crimes - Watergate. (24%)
2) Carter had the U.S. embassy fiasco in Iran. (51%)
3) Reagan had the Iran-Contra scandal where he sold weapons to Iran (which had taken embassy workers) and also armed Contra rebels in Central America. (47%)
4) Clinton got caught "Coming" on Monica's dress. (49%)
As we can see, the only recent president to have lower poll numbers was Richard Nixon who was forced to resign rather than face charges for high crimes and misnomers.
So what has Obama done?
Ended a great recession in 5 years, the likes of which a great president like FDR could NOT do in 12 years, (WWII was needed to end the 1928 recession).
Got Passed almost universal health care - the first in U.S. history.
Got Bin laden
Ended Bush's war in Iraq - as promised.
Reacted "PERFECTLY" to each and EVERY emergency that arose. (When asked what they would do differently, his detractors have been unable to give an answer).
So why is this subject on an Albino thread?
Because only when you consider the totality of Albino character can you understand what happened a few centuries back when the Albinos to power.
Back to Obama:
Do you know why the Albinos have turned on him, have come to hate him even?
They expected him to be mediocre, to fail even. But in true Black form, he has been spectacular, almost perfect.
And they can't stand that, in the deepest recesses of their brains, it reminds them of the long ago past, where the excellence of Blacks meant that they were routinely Lorded over.
So they find every little thing to complain about with Obama, and when they can't find anything real, they make something up. But like the guest above, the intelligent ones know, it's nothing but the ugly head of "Reverse" Racism.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It reminds them of the long ago past, where the excellence of Blacks meant that they were routinely Lorded over.
This is why in every argument about race, the albinos will always bring up Africa. They know that as long as they can continue the myth that all Blacks are Africans, it will psychologically keep the failures of Africa as a yoke around our necks. And give them a convenient red herring for discrimination. Their implication is clear, Blacks are Africans, and Africans are a backward messed-up people. How can you then talk about the greatness of Blacks?
Fortunately, some of us know better.
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Why I pay no attention to doxie and her stupid wanna harm white children gibberish.
Obama was setup from the jump to Fail just like Detroit.
So they can say "See, Blacks can't handle nothing without white help" Whites are inherently a people who need confirmation that they deserve to be the leaders of the destroyed world they have destroyed through wars, famine stolen history and changing of the structure of knowledge. There is an huge psychosis being played on this world, but the Bible stated that we wrestle against powers in high and dark places no surprise.
These people are truly in it to wipe life out of Gods Earth. Many use God as an front to further their purpose of taking the soul out of everyone leaving only an empty shell without purpose. Why they push the agenda of atheism.
Then their is the conscious Whites who are as Clyde said on the side of good. Its them that Blacks and need to rally around. The problem, there voices get drowned out by the louder evils.
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quote:Originally posted by Child Of The KING: Whites are inherently a people who need confirmation that they deserve to be the leaders of the destroyed world they have destroyed through wars, famine stolen history and changing of the structure of knowledge. There is an huge psychosis being played on this world.
Damn KING, that's deep, it makes a lot of sense!
Did you really write it?
He,he,he,he:
Just Fuching with ya.
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Mike ohh you mean no scandal like ummm Fast & Furious, the Benghazi Affair (you know where he left Americans to be butchered, oh that's right they were White they deserved to die), bombing Libya (without congress' approval), sure he got us out of Iraq just to send us right to Afghanistan.
KING, by good Whites you mean the self hating, Anti-White uncle tom Winos who get down on their knees & worship & offer up their children as a sacrifice at the alter of the Negro, who get down on their knees & kiss Black booty. Those who will do anything to bring down & destroy their own.
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quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies: Mike ohh you mean no scandal like ummm Fast & Furious, the Benghazi Affair (you know where he left Americans to be butchered, oh that's right they were White they deserved to die), bombing Libya (without congress' approval), sure he got us out of Iraq just to send us right to Afghanistan.
Damn Doxie, that sounds a lot like the claim that it was Obama's fault that U.S. intelligence didn't know about ISIS expansion. Ya, his private spies in Syria failed, and he was trying to pass the buck to the CIA.
'Fast and Furious' was a "BUSH" program that Holder STOPPED!
Though Benghazi was nothing but an unforeseeable tragedy, made possible by the Ambassadors OWN decisions. It's occurrence was in fact Hilary Clinton's baby, not Obama's.
Lion already corrected you on Afghanistan.
Doxie, are you seeing what you are doing?
You are finding nonsense to Blame Obama for: now why would you do that to a president who has done so much for Albinos like you, if not for racial resentment and even hatred?
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Yeah yeah yeah, sorry its been 6yrs now blame Bush doesn't work anymore. You mean Eric "I won't prosecute my people" Holder who allowed "The Knockout game" to keep going not prosecuting a single Black for their attacks on Whites, but who when ONE stupid White boy decided to play it as an experiment to see what would happen/how much media it would get if the races were reversed,threw him in the slammer & charged him with a hate crime, you mean that Eric Holder. The one who allowed the NBPP, to publicly call for the killing of White people including children & babies & did **** all about it, had it been a White group spouting that crap, they'd have been immediately arrested, brought up on hate crime charges & brought up on charges of incitement to genocide. What the heck has Odumbo's Whitey hating Black ass done for my people? Name one dang thing he has done for us.
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KING, by good Whites you mean the self hating, Anti-White uncle tom Winos who get down on their knees & worship & offer up their children as a sacrifice at the alter of the Negro, who get down on their knees & kiss Black booty. Those who will do anything to bring down & destroy their own.
No doxie, I mean whites who know about how EVIL the world is and that the people in power are usually white and have destroyed this planet with wars, created diseases, ethnic cleansings etc.
Why is it to you that a White speaks out on the atrocities done by other europeans means he is an self hater? No Doxie thats a White who feels the heartbeats of others around him and it grieves him to see anyone suffer. Reverse racism aint the route for change.
Open discussion of evil done by Blacks and Whites is the only way to healing. But to deny deny deny, and then claim that So and so did it too is not the way to breaking the shackles. Active dialogue of the past is the only way.
You come on here claiming your defending Whites honour, but in fact you are proving correct what Others say about Whites...It's always someone else doing it too to justify the violence they have done. Admit, Change, then unite. Tell your kids about the past and explain to them that what was done in the past does not define them, but they gotta be conscious of the past and fight for all people not just for white children.
Whites have a lot to make up for, passing blame is not the answer. Look at the whitening process done by White latinos all across south america to white out the Black and Native population. Brazil still has an hatred for their Black popualtion where they show Blacks as sexual objects. They call mixed children MULEatoes as if they are beast of burden to be ridden and discarded. The effects they have on an entire people is absolutly rediculous and they have no shame of that...Look at Pakistan they call there Capital Islamabad...I mean who puts BAD in their name for their country?? Let me call it as it is meant ISLAM IS BAD. The mockery of other peoples beliefs, culture etc is abnormally High with them and they look down other races. Indians when they ruled, Taught the Chinese, Africans when they ruled Taught the Greeks. Europeans ruling, have stolen history, wiped out animals, mocked other people, genocide against other races etc. Why behave like that Man?? You coulda uplifted the people, saved this planet fought against the deception of satan. Really shown that YOU are blessed, instead most have shown they are heartless, egotist, and have to believe an lie to live on this earth. They can't just be part of the human family. To feel good, they gotta terrorize others. I just don't understand it
Black people have forgiven whites all the times, They will forgive again.
Truth YOU ARE AN ALBINO!!! So What that does not make you less human. Does not mean that you wont enter the kingdom. It's just a colour designation, But to act like being called an Albino is something to abhorr is sad because there is Albinos on this earth from Black people. They are humans like the rest. Why yell down I am not an albino as if thats the worse thing to be called.
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Camouflage. Anyone who left home without it either got eaten or didn't eat. Vitamin D insufficiency and skin cancer were mostly irrelevant until advent of settled agriculture, predominant color of early humans was dependent on local ecosystem, related to soil/shore/vegetation etc.
Narmerthoth: "Albino is not an African word."
That's interesting. I'll do some research on it. I'm finding that numerous "Proto-Indo-European" words apparently have deep roots in the Congo region.
quote:Originally posted by DD'eDeN: Camouflage. Anyone who left home without it either got eaten or didn't eat. Vitamin D insufficiency and skin cancer were mostly irrelevant until advent of settled agriculture, predominant color of early humans was dependent on local ecosystem, related to soil/shore/vegetation etc.
Narmerthoth: "Albino is not an African word."
That's interesting. I'll do some research on it. I'm finding that numerous "Proto-Indo-European" words apparently have deep roots in the Congo region.
What, are you like 10 years old???
What the hell do you know about vitamin D or any other thing?
We have serious conversations here, we don't need some kid talking stuff and offering no proof.
If all you have is opinion, then at least have the courtesy to preface your statements as such.
Doxie is a special case.
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As I wrote at the time, Whites didn't really elect Obama, he only got about 44% of the White vote.
Math isn't your stong point eh?
The fact that only 44% of the white vote was for Obama the number of white people that voted for Obama is still over twice the number of black people that voted for Obama
Since there are over 3 times the number of whites in America then there are blacks even if only 44% of whites voted for Obama the plain and simple fact in shear numbers not in percentage is that over twice as many whites voted for Obama than did blacks Therefore it is an incontrovertable fact that whites elected Obama, stop the nonsense
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As I wrote at the time, Whites didn't really elect Obama, he only got about 44% of the White vote.
Math isn't your stong point eh?
The fact that only 44% of the white vote was for Obama the number of white people that voted for Obama is still over twice the number of black people that voted for Obama
Since there are over 3 times the number of whites in America then there are blacks even if only 44% of whites voted for Obama the plain and simple fact in shear numbers not in percentage is that over twice as many whites voted for Obama than did blacks Therefore it is an incontrovertable fact that whites elected Obama, stop the nonsense
It would probably be more correct to say that the majority of Whites did not elect Obama.
That does NOT mean that I accept the numbers and percentages that you quoted. Having learned the lessons of just how much Albinos lie, it is not unreasonable to assume that they would lie about their numbers and their percentage of the population.
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As I wrote at the time, Whites didn't really elect Obama, he only got about 44% of the White vote.
Math isn't your stong point eh?
The fact that only 44% of the white vote was for Obama the number of white people that voted for Obama is still over twice the number of black people that voted for Obama
Since there are over 3 times the number of whites in America then there are blacks even if only 44% of whites voted for Obama the plain and simple fact in shear numbers not in percentage is that over twice as many whites voted for Obama than did blacks Therefore it is an incontrovertable fact that whites elected Obama, stop the nonsense
It would probably be more correct to say that the majority of Whites did not elect Obama.
That is not correct either
Only certain people of the whole population are eligible to vote. This is further reduced by the fact that everybody who is eligible to vote doesn't vote. Now of the people eligible to vote, voter turnout for both blacks and whites in 2012 was about 65% Unsurprisingly it was the largest percentage turnout for blacks ever and slightly higher than white turnout for the first time.
If 65% percent of whites eligible to vote voted and of those 65% 44% voted for Obama the result is that 29% of whites who were eligible to vote voted for Obama. That is not the majority of whites eligible voting > because of 100% of whites eligible to vote 35% did not vote at all (because only 65% of eligible voters chose to vote)
In other words you can't say the majority of whites eligible to vote voted for Mitt Romney. 35% of those eligible did not vote at all. Of the 65%, 56% voted for Mitt Romney So 34% of whites eligible to vote voted for Mitt Romney (it's not the majority) and 29% of whites eligible to vote voted for Obama The rest didn't vote So the word majority doesn't apply to the whites eligible to vote, not nearly
What is clear is that of eligible voters over twice as many whites voted for Obama than did blacks
The question arises, why did millions of whites vote for Obama?
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^Okay lioness, I answered you because you made a valid argument. But now you are back to your normal sh1t - get lost.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Doxie is a special case.
Yes, Doxie's diatribes are tolerated because I hope to one day find her in Brazil with about a dozen Mulatto babies.
Mali assures me that she will be beaten at least twice a day, to make up for her impudence to me - when she is not nursing of course.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: It reminds them of the long ago past, where the excellence of Blacks meant that they were routinely Lorded over.
This is why in every argument about race, the albinos will always bring up Africa. They know that as long as they can continue the myth that all Blacks are Africans, it will psychologically keep the failures of Africa as a yoke around our necks. And give them a convenient red herring for discrimination. Their implication is clear, Blacks are Africans, and Africans are a backward messed-up people. How can you then talk about the greatness of Blacks?
Fortunately, some of us know better.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: NEW - BUT RELATED SUBJECT.
I don't know how many of you, especially those across the pond, pay close attention to U.S. politics.
A very interesting phenomenon is taking place: according to pollsters President Barach Obama has only a 40-44% approval rating. That compares to 47% for Ronald Reagan at the height of his Iran-Contra scandal - which he was caught lying about.
For Obama, several former staffers have turned on him, and seemingly everyone with White Skin is complaining that he did or did not do something, or that he did this or that badly.
One pundit remarked wryly, "IS THERE ANY WAY THAT HE CAN GET OUT OF THIS?
At which point "REALITY" was brought back when the guest replied:
Get out of it??
Get out of What?
There is no SCANDAL!
He has not done anything Wrong! (This was a White person saying that).
And with that we come right back to the subject of this thread.
Think back to Obama's election - Whites were so busy congratulating themselves that they had elected a Black president. It's like they were all saying: See, we really ARE good people.
As I wrote at the time, Whites didn't really elect Obama, he only got about 44% of the White vote.
But back to the present:
Not only hasn't Obama done anything wrong: Lets Compare past recent presidents.
1) Nixon was to be impeached for high crimes - Watergate. (24%)
2) Carter had the U.S. embassy fiasco in Iran. (51%)
3) Reagan had the Iran-Contra scandal where he sold weapons to Iran (which had taken embassy workers) and also armed Contra rebels in Central America. (47%)
4) Clinton got caught "Coming" on Monica's dress. (49%)
As we can see, the only recent president to have lower poll numbers was Richard Nixon who was forced to resign rather than face charges for high crimes and misnomers.
So what has Obama done?
Ended a great recession in 5 years, the likes of which a great president like FDR could NOT do in 12 years, (WWII was needed to end the 1928 recession).
Got Passed almost universal health care - the first in U.S. history.
Got Bin laden
Ended Bush's war in Iraq - as promised.
Reacted "PERFECTLY" to each and EVERY emergency that arose. (When asked what they would do differently, his detractors have been unable to give an answer).
So why is this subject on an Albino thread?
Because only when you consider the totality of Albino character can you understand what happened a few centuries back when the Albinos to power.
Back to Obama:
Do you know why the Albinos have turned on him, have come to hate him even?
They expected him to be mediocre, to fail even. But in true Black form, he has been spectacular, almost perfect.
And they can't stand that, in the deepest recesses of their brains, it reminds them of the long ago past, where the excellence of Blacks meant that they were routinely Lorded over.
So they find every little thing to complain about with Obama, and when they can't find anything real, they make something up. But like the guest above, the intelligent ones know, it's nothing but the ugly head of "Reverse" Racism.
From: The Hill
Capitol Hill Publishing Corp., a subsidiary of News Communications, Inc. News Communications is controlled by chairman Jerry Finkelstein and his son, James (president and CEO).
Poll: Most see Obama as a failure!
A clear majority of Americans describe President Obama's tenure as a "failure" according to a new poll released Monday.
The survey from IBD/TIPP indicates that 53 percent of adults in the United States now characterize Obama's presidency as a "failure," while 41 percent chalk it up as a success. Half of the people who live in states won by Obama see his tenure negatively, as do 59 percent of those aged 25-44 years old.
Some of the key groups remain solid in their support of the president, though. More than three-quarters of voters aged 18-24 see Obama's presidency as a success, as do 54 percent of single women.
By contrast, only 32 percent of married women describe Obama as a success while 58 percent of independents see him as a failure.
The survey also found that only 43 percent of U.S. adults say they would vote for Obama, who has been besieged by international crises, were a presidential election held today. Some 49 percent would favor 2012 Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.
The slide in approval of the president seems to be primarily driven by concern over his economic record. While three in four Americans say they place a "high importance" on the economy and jobs when evaluating candidates, just 31 percent say Obama is doing a good job at growing the economy.
At a speech last week at Northwestern University, Obama looked to reverse those perceptions, arguing it was "indisputable that our economy is stronger today than it was when I took office." Obama said progress "has been hard, but it has been steady, and it is real."
In the address, Obama acknowledged that there were persistent frustrations with the economy, but blamed congressional Republicans for blocking policy ideas he argues would have helped the middle class reap more benefits from the recovery.
"When push came to shove this year, and Republicans in Congress actually had to take a stand on policies that would help the middle class and working Americans — raising the minimum wage, enacting fair pay, refinancing student loans, extending insurance for the unemployed — the answer was 'no,'” Obama said.
Republicans blasted back, saying Obama had killed middle class jobs through regulation and blocking construction projects like the Keystone XL pipeline.
The point of all of this, is to demonstrate that with Albinos, you don't need to just question and check what they say about history, you have to question and check everything they say, especially if RACE is involved. Whether their lies are due to racial delusions or just Rabid Racism, I don't know, but it certainly IS real.
THIS IS A CHART OF THE U.S. ECONOMY.
Note that is has been flying like never before after a Crash: (since Obama became President during the greatest recession since the 1928 Crash).
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THIS IS A CHART OF THE U.S. STOCK MARKET.
(Note that is has been flying like never before, Dow closes at record high of 17,156 on 09.17.2014).
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THIS IS A CHART OF THE U.S. DEBT.
Note that though Albinos love to shut down Obama's government because they say that it is out of control. The truth is actually quite different:
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That is one think that stands out about Obama Presidency. It baffling. The Stock Market(Hope) is the best in the history of the country but it is being downplayed.
When Clinton was in Office, whenever the Stock market hit record territory you could not turn on the news without hearing about it.
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Although I believe there has been a drop in our standard of living over the last decade. Pay adjustment hasn’t kept pace with the Cost Of Living. I am not sure why that is the case. Maybe the long awaited “adjustment” is taking place. Also I believe the unemployment numbers is being manipulated, Although more people I know who were unemployed back then is currently working. Go figure.
Although I don’t think the Obama agenda is any different from Bush’s
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: The Stock Market(Hope) is the best in the history of the country but it is being downplayed.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: I believe there has been a drop in our standard of living over the last decade. Pay adjustment hasn’t kept pace with the Cost Of Living.
Mike, your were unable to realize how these two things occuring at the same time make people less than enthusiastic about Obama?
Mike we both agree that number of white people who voted for Obama is greater than the number of black people who voted for Obama. Why did they vote for Obama? Were they voting for the white half of Obama? Was it a guilt vote? Because he was Democrat? Because they thought he would do a better job. Please break this down for us.
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Mike can speak for himself. White people voted for Obama for the simply reason they were sick of Bush and the loonie bin Republicans. Palin? Really? Only the hardcore nutcase would chose Palin. As it turns out Obama is not much different than Bush. He has a "softer" touch, yes. Romney was a deliberate joke. Obama was brought in to appease the world.
What is surprising is a man of his integrity went along with the gameplan
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BTW – when you been through a few elections the MO is very easy to make out. Create a bad economy and conditions and bombard the media with the new guy they want elected.
Fear.
35,000 die of flu related sickness per year 100,000 die of cancer 200,000 die of cardiovascular diseases. 15,000 per years of car crashes 2000 of “AIDS” 15,000 from auto accidents, plus > 30,000 related severe injuries. Ebola - ???
Fear?! Yes, everything in perspective.
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Mike can speak for himself. White people voted for Obama for the simply reason they were sick of Bush and the loonie bin Republicans. Palin? Really? Only the hardcore nutcase would chose Palin. As it turns out Obama is not much different than Bush. He has a "softer" touch, yes. Romney was a deliberate joke. Obama was brought in to appease the world.
What is surprising is a man of his integrity went along with the gameplan
you're a fan of Michael Steele? I see a picture of him on your profile
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: That does NOT mean that I accept the numbers and percentages that you quoted. Having learned the lessons of just how much Albinos lie, it is not unreasonable to assume that they would lie about their numbers and their percentage of the population.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Mike we both agree that number of white people who voted for Obama is greater than the number of black people who voted for Obama. Why did they vote for Obama? Were they voting for the white half of Obama? Was it a guilt vote? Because he was Democrat? Because they thought he would do a better job. Please break this down for us.
Which part of "Does NOT mean that I accept the numbers and percentages that you quoted." Don't you understand?
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Which part of "Does NOT mean that I accept the numbers and percentages that you quoted." Don't you understand?
I didn't mention percentages in my last comment only that the number of whites who voted for Obama was greater than the number of black who voted for Obama
Now unless you have some other method of coming to a differnt conlusion you can't make any remark at all pertaining to who elected Obama, black vs white
Black vote vs white vote aside, America has a population of over 300 million we can agree that millions of whites voted for Obama. The question is why
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Black vote vs white vote aside, America has a population of over 300 million we can agree that millions of whites voted for Obama. The question is why
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: They expected him to be mediocre, to fail even. But in true Black form, he has been spectacular, almost perfect.
Which part didn't you understand?
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Mike can speak for himself. White people voted for Obama for the simply reason they were sick of Bush and the loonie bin Republicans. Palin? Really? Only the hardcore nutcase would chose Palin. As it turns out Obama is not much different than Bush. He has a "softer" touch, yes. Romney was a deliberate joke. Obama was brought in to appease the world.
What is surprising is a man of his integrity went along with the gameplan
you're a fan of Michael Steele? I see a picture of him on your profile
Michael Steele is great!
He's a crooked turn-coat con man, but he sure did play a trick on those GOP albinos and robbed them blind when he was their leader. I'll never forget when they finally replaced him and checked their bank account it was empty.
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One of the main propagators of the "Europeans whitened recently in Europe" garbage paper was lecturing this nonsense to a class when one of her more astute students asked her if melanin lost in Europeans only resulted in less skin protection.
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