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A shattering moment in America's fall from power
The global financial crisis will see the US falter in the
same way the Soviet Union did when the Berlin Wall came
down. The era of American dominance is over


by John Gray, The Observer,
Sunday September 28 2008

I GUESS IT'S CHINA'S TURN NOW. [Wink] [Wink]

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Our gaze might be on the markets melting down, but the upheaval we are experiencing is more than a financial crisis, however large. Here is a historic geopolitical shift, in which the balance of power in the world is being altered irrevocably. The era of American global leadership, reaching back to the Second World War, is over.

You can see it in the way America's dominion has slipped away in its own backyard, with Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez taunting and ridiculing the superpower with impunity. Yet the setback of America's standing at the global level is even more striking. With the nationalisation of crucial parts of the financial system, the American free-market creed has self-destructed while countries that retained overall control of markets have been vindicated. In a change as far-reaching in its implications as the fall of the Soviet Union, an entire model of government and the economy has collapsed.

Ever since the end of the Cold War, successive American administrations have lectured other countries on the necessity of sound finance. Indonesia, Thailand, Argentina and several African states endured severe cuts in spending and deep recessions as the price of aid from the International Monetary Fund, which enforced the American orthodoxy. China in particular was hectored relentlessly on the weakness of its banking system. But China's success has been based on its consistent contempt for Western advice and it is not Chinese banks that are currently going bust. How symbolic yesterday that Chinese astronauts take a spacewalk while the US Treasury Secretary is on his knees.

Despite incessantly urging other countries to adopt its way of doing business, America has always had one economic policy for itself and another for the rest of the world. Throughout the years in which the US was punishing countries that departed from fiscal prudence, it was borrowing on a colossal scale to finance tax cuts and fund its over-stretched military commitments. Now, with federal finances critically dependent on continuing large inflows of foreign capital, it will be the countries that spurned the American model of capitalism that will shape America's economic future.

Which version of the bail out of American financial institutions cobbled up by Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke is finally adopted is less important than what the bail out means for America's position in the world. The populist rant about greedy banks that is being loudly ventilated in Congress is a distraction from the true causes of the crisis. The dire condition of America's financial markets is the result of American banks operating in a free-for-all environment that these same American legislators created. It is America's political class that, by embracing the dangerously simplistic ideology of deregulation, has responsibility for the present mess.

In present circumstances, an unprecedented expansion of government is the only means of averting a market catastrophe. The consequence, however, will be that America will be even more starkly dependent on the world's new rising powers. The federal government is racking up even larger borrowings, which its creditors may rightly fear will never be repaid. It may well be tempted to inflate these debts away in a surge of inflation that would leave foreign investors with hefty losses. In these circumstances, will the governments of countries that buy large quantities of American bonds, China, the Gulf States and Russia, for example, be ready to continue supporting the dollar's role as the world's reserve currency? Or will these countries see this as an opportunity to tilt the balance of economic power further in their favour? Either way, the control of events is no longer in American hands.

The fate of empires is very often sealed by the interaction of war and debt. That was true of the British Empire, whose finances deteriorated from the First World War onwards, and of the Soviet Union. Defeat in Afghanistan and the economic burden of trying to respond to Reagan's technically flawed but politically extremely effective Star Wars programme were vital factors in triggering the Soviet collapse. Despite its insistent exceptionalism, America is no different. The Iraq War and the credit bubble have fatally undermined America's economic primacy. The US will continue to be the world's largest economy for a while longer, but it will be the new rising powers that, once the crisis is over, buy up what remains intact in the wreckage of America's financial system.

There has been a good deal of talk in recent weeks about imminent economic armageddon. In fact, this is far from being the end of capitalism. The frantic scrambling that is going on in Washington marks the passing of only one type of capitalism - the peculiar and highly unstable variety that has existed in America over the last 20 years. This experiment in financial laissez-faire has imploded.While the impact of the collapse will be felt everywhere, the market economies that resisted American-style deregulation will best weather the storm. Britain, which has turned itself into a gigantic hedge fund, but of a kind that lacks the ability to profit from a downturn, is likely to be especially badly hit.

The irony of the post-Cold War period is that the fall of communism was followed by the rise of another utopian ideology. In American and Britain, and to a lesser extent other Western countries, a type of market fundamentalism became the guiding philosophy. The collapse of American power that is underway is the predictable upshot. Like the Soviet collapse, it will have large geopolitical repercussions. An enfeebled economy cannot support America's over-extended military commitments for much longer. Retrenchment is inevitable and it is unlikely to be gradual or well planned.

Meltdowns on the scale we are seeing are not slow-motion events. They are swift and chaotic, with rapidly spreading side-effects. Consider Iraq. The success of the surge, which has been achieved by bribing the Sunnis, while acquiescing in ongoing ethnic cleansing, has produced a condition of relative peace in parts of the country. How long will this last, given that America's current level of expenditure on the war can no longer be sustained?

An American retreat from Iraq will leave Iran the regional victor. How will Saudi Arabia respond? Will military action to forestall Iran acquiring nuclear weapons be less or more likely? China's rulers have so far been silent during the unfolding crisis. Will America's weakness embolden them to assert China's power or will China continue its cautious policy of 'peaceful rise'? At present, none of these questions can be answered with any confidence. What is evident is that power is leaking from the US at an accelerating rate. Georgia showed Russia redrawing the geopolitical map, with America an impotent spectator.

Outside the US, most people have long accepted that the development of new economies that goes with globalisation will undermine America's central position in the world. They imagined that this would be a change in America's comparative standing, taking place incrementally over several decades or generations. Today, that looks an increasingly unrealistic assumption.

Having created the conditions that produced history's biggest bubble, America's political leaders appear unable to grasp the magnitude of the dangers the country now faces. Mired in their rancorous culture wars and squabbling among themselves, they seem oblivious to the fact that American global leadership is fast ebbing away. A new world is coming into being almost unnoticed, where America is only one of several great powers, facing an uncertain future it can no longer shape.

Source! http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/28/usforeignpolicy.useconomicgrowth/print



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gD-jFZDg0

Now they falling ... when they shoulda fell back. [Smile]

Bad news keeps coming
Hard to keep something on your stomach
You're sick 'bout what your life is becoming
(FALLING! [Big Grin] )
Bunch of used to's, has been's bragging bad 'bout all the new dudes
Talking tough on the YouTube bout what you used to do
But that's old school to the new China crew
They're doing numbers like Sudoku ! [Big Grin]

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Falling??? This is all a game to get Obama elected.

For some strange reason they want Obama elected. (I have no horse in this race - Being for R. Paul or Hillary) It is a ploy to get the world to re-accept Euro-America/America as the No.1 for morals and be accepted and respected as being credible after 8 years of immoral activity within and without.

See- Russia can invade Georgia and who gives a fack.. . .except the Georgians. Who has the moral authority to stop or question Russia.

Next China invades. . . . Taiwan. Or India invades . . . . Sri Lanka.


BTW- They way it is being setup right now ONLY A BRAINLESS IDIOT RACIST WILL vote for Palin and McCain. Makes one think Palin was chosen for the hard core racist and any sensible will NOT vote for the pair.

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^ Feel free to console yourself however you see fit. [Big Grin]

Ron Paul: Bailout Fails!

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Falling???

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Good question. Politicians will once again muddle through this crisis by reaching some form of compromise that doesn't deal with the underlying problem. The American debt will continue to rise at a rate no one can comprehend. Americans will not discuss in any real way how it got itself into this situation. We are witness to the death of the Republic and the decline of Western Civilization and it has nothing to do with the defeat of the bailout plan.
Source: http://beta.intent.com/blog/2008/09/29/what-impact-defeat-bailout-and-700-point-drop-dow


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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Falling??? This is all a game to get Obama elected.

For some strange reason they want Obama elected. (I have no horse in this race - Being for R. Paul or Hillary) It is a ploy to get the world to re-accept Euro-America/America as the No.1 for morals and be accepted and respected as being credible after 8 years of immoral activity within and without.

See- Russia can invade Georgia and who gives a fack.. . .except the Georgians. Who has the moral authority to stop or question Russia.

Next China invades. . . . Taiwan. Or India invades . . . . Sri Lanka.


BTW- They way it is being setup right now ONLY A BRAINLESS IDIOT RACIST WILL vote for Palin and McCain. Makes one think Palin was chosen for the hard core racist and any sensible will NOT vote for the pair.


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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Sauron:
quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
Falling???

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Good question. Politicians will once again muddle through this crisis by reaching some form of compromise that doesn't deal with the underlying problem. The American debt will continue to rise at a rate no one can comprehend. Americans will not discuss in any real way how it got itself into this situation. We are witness to the death of the Republic and the decline of Western Civilization and it has nothing to do with the defeat of the bailout plan.
Source: http://beta.intent.com/blog/2008/09/29/what-impact-defeat-bailout-and-700-point-drop-dow



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[Big Grin] ^^ Nice Vid. Keeping with the theme of the thread. [Big Grin]
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America will never "Fall" from power....

I mean 8 years ago we were the most power nation...Now...?

It all part of a bigger plan...A plan most Americans just wont stop to wake up and see....

See the thing is in America...most people are just plain stupid....They don't realize the impact of big world Bis. and Markets...such as Oil...and World Bank....They don't realize that the U.S currency is just worthless paper and if the right people chose they could make a 100 dollar bill be worth 1 dollar...

The thing is way bigger than ALL OF US....it bigger than Black, White and Hispanic....or Arab Muslim and Christian......cause WE ARE ALL THE VICTIMS....and trust me The people in power don't give a damn about what race or creed you are....Hell they never did....

It all goes back years....to Industrialization...

Now its out of control....
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=federal%20reserve&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#

Think it all B.S...
Ben Bernanke admits to it....
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59405
I mean like he(They) care if we know....Most Americans are dumbed down
http://www.populistamerica.com/the_dumbing_down_of_the_american_mind
(I can't stand this dude but he is right on this case..)http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/070305_education.htm


More...Stuff most folks don't know about
http://hidhist.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/rockefeller-ford-and-the-secret-history-of-alcohol/
9-11
http://tvnewslies.org/html/9_11_warnings.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/09/national/nationalspecial3/09documents.html
Iraq
Most don't even know Saddam ran a secular government and kept the Islamic Extremists in check....So WHY are we there....
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977268188&nav=Namespace
Some stuff started or in development in the last 8 years...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/patriotact/
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/169
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

Wake Up!!!!

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Don't for one second think that this was an accident ....
http://newsblaze.com/story/20080927140845tsop.nb/topstory.html

Understand that just because China and other Developing nations are on the Rise that America's ruthless elite will allow China to be Boss....America is Militarily superior to China

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You hit the nail on the head.

This is bigger then you or me. We are all underattack. The people that rule us are the ones behind the hate and the division of races. They have Blacks hating Whites, Whites hating Blacks, Arabs, Jews, etc hating each other. As a truthseeker I notice we are against a powerful and evil enemy. They use the exact things we take for granted like entertainment and use it to brainwash and dumb us down.

Do you know that in music, one of the main weapons of the enemy they have songs now geared towards kids that are about Suicide(Sean Kingston) Touching your body(Mariah Karey) and now if you can believe this there is a song that is Number 1 that talks about a girl kissing another Girl. This is some of the lyrics: "I kissed a girl and I liked it, Don't tell my boyfriend" kissed a girl - Katy Perry. This is how blatant they are with there message of corruption. Before they had to be subliminal with there corrupt ideas. Now they are pushing there agenda as fast as they can. They want to corrupt the future(Children). Children are under attack and pressured to be mini-adults. They are being taught to be sexual and wear clothes that shows off there bodies. *Young Kids* are being brainwashed to follow these people and join the ranks of the perverse and sick. The best way to control the future, is to have the children preoccupied with sex, drugs and other filth. This is how they are trying to keep *ALL* people in mental slavery. Our society is so preoccupied with what looks good and what is sexy and now on T.V. with all these reality shows they are fooling us to be dumb. While we as a people are busy with the perversions, the powers that be are getting richer and richer, murdering whom ever gets to close to the truth. Societies corruption is what forced a young women from brazil to die because she did not think she was beautiful enough. She died of a eating disorder, she weighed 80 pounds, A grown women.

People need to wake up to the truth, whether your a christian, muslim, jew, Hindu etc where all under attack and mental slaves to these people. They have puppet governments set up that purposely keep there people poor and starving to serve these people. I know you heard about genetically modified beans. They want to be looked on as Gods. They push all this on the majority of the population.

This is why as a truthseeker we must get the message out to all the people we can. Truthseekers have a responsibility to wake up the minds of others so we can fight back. That is why I can't stand the division on this forum between Whites, Blacks, Indians, and Arabs. We as truthseekers must be the first to show people how to treat each other. That is why the insults need to stop and the all round hate needs to go. We must communicate with each other on a level of respect. Stop the hateful posts. We all know truth and we need to be the first to spark this hidden war with the powers that be. Our children must be taught truth and to not hate based on skin color. Look at how they promote homosexuality, now Lindsay Lohan is gay. They have these stars coming out claming to be gay and trust me it effects the Kids. In schools They want to teach that being gay is just another lifestyle. *They* Know children is the battleground, because they are the future. If they can get them early to believe in the system, then they can continue to have us hating, killing, and degrading each other each race and so on and so on.

Let me tell you what I saw on another website. During the olympics they had pictures of the spanish basketball team and guess what they were doing. They *WHOLE* team slanted there eyes to mock the chinese. If you think this was just one time thing, well your wrong. The spanish womens team did the same exact thing and then they showed more people slanting there eyes mocking chinese like the Argentines soccer team. http://www.brazzilbrief.com/viewtopic.php?t=7962403

The powers that be promote hatred of race because they want us thinking we cannot work together and that we Need to be led by people behind the power. This war is a war of the minds. We *MUST* fight back. Free your minds.

Peace

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quote:
Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun:


The thing is way bigger than ALL OF US....it bigger than Black, White and Hispanic....or Arab Muslim and Christian......cause WE ARE ALL THE VICTIMS....and trust me The people in power don't give a damn about what race or creed you are....Hell they never did....


Excellent. You're learning!
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It's good to see other people waking up to the truth. Let the truth set you free.

Peace

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^ I think maybe I'll stop torturing them (exploiting their fears) now. [Wink] [Big Grin]

But I ... enjoy it. [Big Grin]

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This AllixDarcy is . . . strange. What are you views bro, sis, family? These two or three words response don't say much about your views. Give me something to work with.

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^ Get back to work and stop surfing the net! [Big Grin]

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Can people leave there trolling out of this thread. What Jari-Ankhamun and I posted should be what is discussed.

This is the problem, the powers that be uses people like this to either coverup or distort and then have voices like ours to be quieted. This is all part of the war, The war for your minds. Good posts like Jari and mine get ignored and instead stupid trolling happens to coverup the truth in these posts. Posters need to stay on topic and realize that derailing the topic is what the enemy wants.

Wake up people.

Peace

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quote:
Originally posted by KING:
Jari-Ankhamun

You hit the nail on the head.

This is bigger then you or me. We are all underattack. The people that rule us are the ones behind the hate and the division of races. They have Blacks hating Whites, Whites hating Blacks, Arabs, Jews, etc hating each other. As a truthseeker I notice we are against a powerful and evil enemy. They use the exact things we take for granted like entertainment and use it to brainwash and dumb us down.

Do you know that in music, one of the main weapons of the enemy they have songs now geared towards kids that are about Suicide(Sean Kingston) Touching your body(Mariah Karey) and now if you can believe this there is a song that is Number 1 that talks about a girl kissing another Girl. This is some of the lyrics: "I kissed a girl and I liked it, Don't tell my boyfriend" kissed a girl - Katy Perry. This is how blatant they are with there message of corruption. Before they had to be subliminal with there corrupt ideas. Now they are pushing there agenda as fast as they can. They want to corrupt the future(Children). Children are under attack and pressured to be mini-adults. They are being taught to be sexual and wear clothes that shows off there bodies. *Young Kids* are being brainwashed to follow these people and join the ranks of the perverse and sick. The best way to control the future, is to have the children preoccupied with sex, drugs and other filth. This is how they are trying to keep *ALL* people in mental slavery. Our society is so preoccupied with what looks good and what is sexy and now on T.V. with all these reality shows they are fooling us to be dumb. While we as a people are busy with the perversions, the powers that be are getting richer and richer, murdering whom ever gets to close to the truth. Societies corruption is what forced a young women from brazil to die because she did not think she was beautiful enough. She died of a eating disorder, she weighed 80 pounds, A grown women.

People need to wake up to the truth, whether your a christian, muslim, jew, Hindu etc where all under attack and mental slaves to these people. They have puppet governments set up that purposely keep there people poor and starving to serve these people. I know you heard about genetically modified beans. They want to be looked on as Gods. They push all this on the majority of the population.

This is why as a truthseeker we must get the message out to all the people we can. Truthseekers have a responsibility to wake up the minds of others so we can fight back. That is why I can't stand the division on this forum between Whites, Blacks, Indians, and Arabs. We as truthseekers must be the first to show people how to treat each other. That is why the insults need to stop and the all round hate needs to go. We must communicate with each other on a level of respect. Stop the hateful posts. We all know truth and we need to be the first to spark this hidden war with the powers that be. Our children must be taught truth and to not hate based on skin color. Look at how they promote homosexuality, now Lindsay Lohan is gay. They have these stars coming out claming to be gay and trust me it effects the Kids. In schools They want to teach that being gay is just another lifestyle. *They* Know children is the battleground, because they are the future. If they can get them early to believe in the system, then they can continue to have us hating, killing, and degrading each other each race and so on and so on.

Let me tell you what I saw on another website. During the olympics they had pictures of the spanish basketball team and guess what they were doing. They *WHOLE* team slanted there eyes to mock the chinese. If you think this was just one time thing, well your wrong. The spanish womens team did the same exact thing and then they showed more people slanting there eyes mocking chinese like the Argentines soccer team. http://www.brazzilbrief.com/viewtopic.php?t=7962403

The powers that be promote hatred of race because they want us thinking we cannot work together and that we Need to be led by people behind the power. This war is a war of the minds. We *MUST* fight back. Free your minds.

Peace

Yes, king you are right 100 percent...this is a evil...inhuman plot to phisically inslave majority of the human race....

What Im suprised is how little attention people are giving to this thread...THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED!!!

Many people fail to realise just how important this is.....Do people realise what "They" can do with 95 percent of humans moitored by RfID chips...with the power to Track, Find, and KILL any given person at will.....?

Do people realise that in the Near future if the American Union passes We could see a revision of the Constitution and the office of the Presedency becoming that of a dictator....?

Do people realise how SEVERELY unconstituional and invasion of Privacy the so called "Patriot Act" is...

DO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY COULD DO TO THEM AND JUSTIFY IT UNDER THE PATRIOT ACT....DO THEY...

This is no "consiracy"....ITs FACT...I mean Ben Bernanke ADMITED that the Federal Reserve WAS THE SOLE perpertraitor of the Great Depression.....It might now mean much to our generation but ask Grenama and Granpa and no matter what Race or Creed they'll give you stories of Hardship, Dispair, and anguish.....While Millions of Americans suffered the Cronies of the Federal Reserve Wallowed in luxury....

and yes King you are right it IS our duty to spread the truth..Plese lets discuss more

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Falling??? This is all a game to get Obama elected.

For some strange reason they want Obama elected. (I have no horse in this race - Being for R. Paul or Hillary) It is a ploy to get the world to re-accept Euro-America/America as the No.1 for morals and be accepted and respected as being credible after 8 years of immoral activity within and without.

See- Russia can invade Georgia and who gives a fack.. . .except the Georgians. Who has the moral authority to stop or question Russia.

Next China invades. . . . Taiwan. Or India invades . . . . Sri Lanka.


BTW- They way it is being setup right now ONLY A BRAINLESS IDIOT RACIST WILL vote for Palin and McCain. Makes one think Palin was chosen for the hard core racist and any sensible will NOT vote for the pair.


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It's so refreshing to see a truthseeker fight for people to wake up to the fact that there human rights are under attack. What we take for granted(Free speech, Expression etc) are being destroyed for the socalled "greater good". The chip implant you talk about is very serious and I gurantee that it is in the works. They think with Music and Movies they have us all lulled into a sense of comfort where they can propose these evils on us and we will just take it. This is why I have no clue why people are not taking what me and you say seriously. Instead they try to change the topic, the reason they do this is because they are scared. They don't want to believe that the government would attack its people like this. But this is the *TRUTH*. They don't care about us, White, Black, Arab, Asian, etc. All we are to them is pawns and puppets to discard when we are no longer of use. The American people have to come together and stop the hating because they are being fooled, and set up.

The first people to get the chip will be former convicts forced to get chips if they want there freedom. The word needs to be spread, I am so greatful for having another Truthseeker that sees through the illusion of entertainment etc.
I just wish the other truthseekers would talk on this very serious topic because it affects all of us. Free your mind.

Peace

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Look at the pictures of high profile people making fun of Asians:

http://www.brazzilbrief.com/viewtopic.php?t=7962403

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The Spanish make the English look like Black Civil Rights activists.
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quote:
Originally posted by KING:
Jari-Ankhamun

It's so refreshing to see a truthseeker fight for people to wake up to the fact that there human rights are under attack. What we take for granted(Free speech, Expression etc) are being destroyed for the socalled "greater good". The chip implant you talk about is very serious and I gurantee that it is in the works. They think with Music and Movies they have us all lulled into a sense of comfort where they can propose these evils on us and we will just take it. This is why I have no clue why people are not taking what me and you say seriously. Instead they try to change the topic, the reason they do this is because they are scared. They don't want to believe that the government would attack its people like this. But this is the *TRUTH*. They don't care about us, White, Black, Arab, Asian, etc. All we are to them is pawns and puppets to discard when we are no longer of use. The American people have to come together and stop the hating because they are being fooled, and set up.

The first people to get the chip will be former convicts forced to get chips if they want there freedom. The word needs to be spread, I am so greatful for having another Truthseeker that sees through the illusion of entertainment etc.
I just wish the other truthseekers would talk on this very serious topic because it affects all of us. Free your mind.

Peace

Sources for these "chip implant plan" claims?
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quote:
Originally posted by KING:
Jari-Ankhamun

It's so refreshing to see a truthseeker fight for people to wake up to the fact that there human rights are under attack. What we take for granted(Free speech, Expression etc) are being destroyed for the socalled "greater good". The chip implant you talk about is very serious and I gurantee that it is in the works. They think with Music and Movies they have us all lulled into a sense of comfort where they can propose these evils on us and we will just take it. This is why I have no clue why people are not taking what me and you say seriously. Instead they try to change the topic, the reason they do this is because they are scared. They don't want to believe that the government would attack its people like this. But this is the *TRUTH*. They don't care about us, White, Black, Arab, Asian, etc. All we are to them is pawns and puppets to discard when we are no longer of use. The American people have to come together and stop the hating because they are being fooled, and set up.

The first people to get the chip will be former convicts forced to get chips if they want there freedom. The word needs to be spread, I am so greatful for having another Truthseeker that sees through the illusion of entertainment etc.
I just wish the other truthseekers would talk on this very serious topic because it affects all of us. Free your mind.

Peace

To tell you the truth I would have laughed at you about 3 years ago....Thats when I received a letter from a "concerned citizen"(probably some activist group of Truth Seekers like us) detailing the American Union, The National Highway and the Amero...I tossed it to the side because I thought it was just a bunch of B.S....I mean it sounded so ridiculous....

Then to my surprise I find out Bush is doing just what the letter said....

What we have to understand is that this is an old, long fight going all the way back to the early colonial era and Industrialization.....
Anyone who understands history will know what is going on....

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quote:
Originally posted by HuggyBear:
quote:
Originally posted by KING:
Jari-Ankhamun

It's so refreshing to see a truthseeker fight for people to wake up to the fact that there human rights are under attack. What we take for granted(Free speech, Expression etc) are being destroyed for the socalled "greater good". The chip implant you talk about is very serious and I gurantee that it is in the works. They think with Music and Movies they have us all lulled into a sense of comfort where they can propose these evils on us and we will just take it. This is why I have no clue why people are not taking what me and you say seriously. Instead they try to change the topic, the reason they do this is because they are scared. They don't want to believe that the government would attack its people like this. But this is the *TRUTH*. They don't care about us, White, Black, Arab, Asian, etc. All we are to them is pawns and puppets to discard when we are no longer of use. The American people have to come together and stop the hating because they are being fooled, and set up.

The first people to get the chip will be former convicts forced to get chips if they want there freedom. The word needs to be spread, I am so greatful for having another Truthseeker that sees through the illusion of entertainment etc.
I just wish the other truthseekers would talk on this very serious topic because it affects all of us. Free your mind.

Peace

Sources for these "chip implant plan" claims?
Don't be a fool, You and I both know there is no Full BLOWN out plan of inserting chips into people....at least now yet...But take a good look areound you and open your mind.....its just like a game...Ask any normal American If they would insert a chip into their body and about 95 percent would say "Hell NO"....With the Christian popularity of the Mark of the Beast and such. Now ask the same people about "Onstar" the program where they can check and monitor your car....HMMM...or Ask about the Chips they are inserting in pets...to MONITOR and track a stolen pet.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnStar
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2003-04-21-animal-chip_x.htm

What you have to understand is that these people don't play fair...they play DAMN DIRTY....
J.D Rockefeller gave Millions to some old Ladies and they ended up banning on of America's strongest sector and destroyed what could have been a solution to Oil and the dependence on foreign supply....Do you realize the impact of Prohibition on America and the fact that it was started by ONE MAN


Do you realize that the "FEDERAL RESERVE" was SOLELY responsible for the GREAT DEPRESSION....JUST sit and think about that for a minute and just intake mentally what Ben Bernanke revealed when he admitted that the Federal Reserve was responsible for the Great Depression.

Realize that this is no conspiracy....I have no proof other than my warning and the Links and past history I provide...You can just blow me off or you can research the RfID chip yourself and find out how its linked to 9-11...and how it was developed like so many other thing in the last 8 years...

http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=939

Please watch this and research the fact...YOU WILL BE SHOCKED..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-154934991915638412&ei=Q_TmSKbTCImwrQKw3cmZAQ&q=federal+reserve&vt=lf&hl=en

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quote:
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Originally posted by KING:
Jari-Ankhamun

It's so refreshing to see a truthseeker fight for people to wake up to the fact that there human rights are under attack. What we take for granted(Free speech, Expression etc) are being destroyed for the socalled "greater good". The chip implant you talk about is very serious and I gurantee that it is in the works. They think with Music and Movies they have us all lulled into a sense of comfort where they can propose these evils on us and we will just take it. This is why I have no clue why people are not taking what me and you say seriously. Instead they try to change the topic, the reason they do this is because they are scared. They don't want to believe that the government would attack its people like this. But this is the *TRUTH*. They don't care about us, White, Black, Arab, Asian, etc. All we are to them is pawns and puppets to discard when we are no longer of use. The American people have to come together and stop the hating because they are being fooled, and set up.

The first people to get the chip will be former convicts forced to get chips if they want there freedom. The word needs to be spread, I am so greatful for having another Truthseeker that sees through the illusion of entertainment etc.
I just wish the other truthseekers would talk on this very serious topic because it affects all of us. Free your mind.

Peace

Sources for these "chip implant plan" claims?
http://www.realnightmare.org/
http://www.dhs.gov/xprevprot/laws/gc_1172767635686.shtm
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.00418:

MORE PROOF....Just remember your cute little pictures when you but your Real ID

King as you know we are running out of time....It seems more every year are privacy in America is being invaded...We have power still a citizens in a democracy....we need to inform as much people as we can...

Be careful....remember the Patriot Act

Guys this is serious!!! Time is running out.

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All I can say is wow, watching that video it shocked me. To think that this microchip is implanted into every new passport. I can't believe that there is people who have already gotten the chip.

This is no conspiracy, This is reality. You must fight back. Thank you Jari.

Peace

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Yes we are running out of time. This is all set up for the NWO. African Union, Europe union, soon to come Asian Union, and North American Union. After this One government. It is all attacks against us. People with power wanting more power and Wealth.

This is why I have been adamant that the truthseekers on this forum treat each other with respect and understand that we have a common enemy. The powers that be. Keep posting these videos Jari. I want to learn about *ALL* of these things.

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It has begun. The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative is already coming to pass, which is but one step towards the North American Union:

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THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE TRAVEL INITIATIVE:
BALANCING SECURITY AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS
THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE TRAVEL INITIATIVE

In April 2005, the U.S. departments of State and Homeland Security announced the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI), pursuant to section 7209 of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (the “9/11 Intelligence Bill”). Under the WHTI, all travellers to and from the Americas (including Canada, Mexico, Central America and South America), the Caribbean and Bermuda will be required to present a passport, or other accepted document or combination of documents, when entering or re-entering the United States.(1) According to the proposed implementation schedule, air and sea travel will become subject to the WHTI on 31 December 2006, followed by land border crossings on 31 December 2007.(2)

The requirements of the WHTI are a departure from existing U.S. policy, which exempts Canadian citizens arriving in the United States from anywhere in the Western Hemisphere other than Cuba from the visa and passport requirement of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act (section 212(a)(7)). Currently, these travellers are required only to satisfy a U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer of their identity (with photo identification such as a driver’s licence) and citizenship (with a birth certificate, citizenship certificate or passport) in order to enter the United States. In some instances, an oral declaration of citizenship may be accepted.(3) Canadian citizens will, however, remain generally exempt from the U.S. Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology (US-VISIT) program, which requires nearly all visitors to the United States to provide biometrics (e.g., digital finger scans and photographs) for comparison with a database of criminals and suspected terrorists.(4)
ALTERNATIVE TRAVEL DOCUMENTS

One of the unresolved implementation details of the WHTI is the types of documents, other than passports, that will be considered acceptable for entry or re-entry into the United States. The U.S. government has indicated that it will consider documents that: establish the citizenship and identity of the bearer; enable electronic data verification and checking; and include significant security features. Based on these criteria, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security anticipates that the following documents will be deemed acceptable in the future:(5)

* the Border Crossing Card or “laser visa” for Mexican citizens travelling to the United States from contiguous territory; and
* cards used with existing international frequent traveller programs offered by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, including Secure Electronic Network for Travelers Rapid Inspection (SENTRI), NEXUS and Free and Secure Trade (FAST).

In addition, on 17 January 2006, the U.S. secretaries of State and Homeland Security announced plans to develop “an inexpensive, secure, biometric passport card as an alternative to a traditional passport book” for use by U.S. citizens in crossing land borders.(6) The proposed PASS (People, Access, Security and Service) card is expected to be available beginning in late 2006 or early 2007, but few details are available at this time. To date, there is no indication that Canada will develop a similar passport alternative.(7)

In March 2005, Canada, the United States and Mexico announced the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America, which aims to protect North America from external and internal threats as well as to promote the economic well-being of citizens through further streamlining of the secure movement of low-risk traffic across shared borders. In order to advance the achievement of smart and secure borders (one of five high-priority initiatives under the SPP), leaders of the three countries agreed to work together over the subsequent two years to develop standards and options for secure documents to facilitate cross-border travel.(8)


BENEFITS AND COSTS

The WHTI aims to strengthen U.S. national security through increased border security, while simultaneously expediting the movements of frequent travellers (including those who reside in border communities). These potential benefits should be considered alongside the potential costs of the initiative, including:

* costs of implementation, including design of passport alternatives, training of border personnel, etc.;
* costs to travellers – in terms of time and money – associated with obtaining or renewing passports (or acceptable alternatives), which were not previously required to cross the Canada-U.S. border; and
* negative economic impacts resulting from forgone cross-border tourism, trade and commerce, if the new documentation requirements discourage travellers and businesses from crossing the Canada-U.S. border.

In addition, while it is envisioned that the WHTI will expedite border crossings for frequent and low-risk travellers, some critics believe that the new documentation requirements may create border congestion, at least in the short term. Any increases in border congestion would have cost implications – in terms of time and money – for travellers and businesses such as manufacturers, importers and exporters, as well as environmental and health costs.(9)

The costs to travellers associated with obtaining documentation to satisfy the WHTI requirements will depend on the cost of the acceptable document(s) (once they have been identified) as well as on the number of travellers who choose to obtain them.(10) These same factors – in combination with others such as the substitutability of the travel destination, the prospect of border congestion, etc. – will determine the extent of any negative economic impacts on cross-border tourism, trade and commerce.

Estimates of the percentage of Canadians and Americans who currently hold passports vary among sources and depend on the characteristics of the population considered. According to Passport Canada’s 2003-2004 Annual Report, the share of Canadians holding passports increased from 28% in 2001 to 31% in 2003 and is expected to reach 50% by 2006 or 2007.(11) Comparable data for Americans are not publicly available on the U.S. Department of State’s Web site. Recently published news articles, however, provide figures ranging from 20% to 24% for Americans and 37% to 40% for Canadians, with sources consistently reporting a higher incidence of passport ownership among Canadians than Americans. Household surveys conducted for the Canadian Tourism Commission in 2005 found that passport possession in Canada and the United States varied depending on the traveller profile, as shown in Table 1.

From: http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/PRBpubs/prb0609-e.htm

I have seen the ads on TV and the most PROMINENT feature of these ADS is the biometric ID card. So yes, they are going to be using chips to monitor movements.

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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STOP BEING AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY. THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE AND WILL BE USED. GOVERNMENT, ORGANISATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS WILL USE THESE TECHNOLOGIES WETHER ANYONE LIKES IT OR NOT. TECHNOLOGY IS PROGRESS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP. WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS *WHO* IS USING THESE POWERFUL TECHNOLOGIES AND *HOW* THEY ARE BEING USED.

DON'T BLAME TECHNOLOGY. THE PROBLEM LIES IN THE DARK HEARTS OF HUMAN BEINGS. ROBOTS ARE NOT EVIL BY NATURE. THEY ARE WHATEVER YOU WANT THEM TO BE.

I SUGGEST PEOPLE FOCUS ON ELECTING "GOOD PEOPLE" INTO GOVERNMENT AND WORRY LESS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

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Great information, If only there was a way to get this info out to the masses. People need to know that our freedoms are at stake and that the governments want to make us slaves to society. The info provided by Doug and Jari is important to what is going on in North America. I would really like to watch some more of these movies about what the Governments are planning. So if anybody has any other movies like Zeitgeist please post them.

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Coherence?

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YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STOP BEING AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY.

lol. Not sure a bunch of people active on an internet forum are 'AFRAID OF TECHNOLOGY'.

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THE TECHNOLOGY IS HERE AND WILL BE USED. GOVERNMENT, ORGANISATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS WILL USE THESE TECHNOLOGIES WETHER ANYONE LIKES IT OR NOT.
So? We've always used technology to create and kill.

Does this mean we should passively accept a thourough shafting from "Big Brother"?

No.

I take it your one of those apologists who's so brainwashed they think opposing governmental policies even if it means oposing facism is un-acceptable and 'un-American'?

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I SUGGEST PEOPLE FOCUS ON ELECTING "GOOD PEOPLE" INTO GOVERNMENT AND WORRY LESS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.

Uh, specifically, folks are worried about being tracked or controlled by the government which is supposed to serve them in the first place (like in i Robot only that was with Robots).

People are worried about surveillance: address that.

Unless you mean to imply that if we elect good people with good hearts that everything will be alright.

This ain't no fairytale.

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I mean, people posting seem to be more concerned with the who and what [they are doing] than the what [they are using -- hell, we're all using technology, lol].

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I found another video that should be watched.
We are in serious times.
It's time for everyone to wake up.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Zeitgeist%3A+Addendum&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#

Peace

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The video made me think about a lot of things. I urge everyone to watch it.

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I marvel at the irony when you fools talk about "coming" fascism when it has always been a reality for black folks. Who controlls the black community? Black academic thought? Black politicians? Ever wondered why the black church and the black politcian are so close, why most of our "leaders" are "Rev" this or that? Who appoints them? The masses? LOL

The dumba** loverboy talks about being worried about "surveillance" and fascism as if it's a "coming" phenomena. There was never a time when blacks were not under some form of control from "big brother" wether government or private sector. Slavery: private sector. Emancipation: government. Civil rights: government.

Today we all go like lamb to the slaughter to Obama (goverment), even loverboy loves him! Now he worries about "government". LOL

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Yes, the sole reason these topics are issues at all is because, you love and wish to be apart of the system, so very badly.
You whine about this and that, while subconsciously supporting and contributing to the same.
If you work for Lockheed Martin, then you support and contribute to above
If you support McCain or Obama, then you support and contribute to above
If you pray to Jesus, then you support and contribute to above
If you pay taxes, then you support and contribute to above

As I seem to recall reading somewhere, you may be against, or for, but you can't be in the middle. That is where blacks are, in the middle, and without a doubt, contributing to and actively supporting your own subjugation and control.
This isn't at all surprising since, when you crash someone else's party, no matter how out of tune, you had better be prepared to dance to their music. Negroes LOVE to dance!

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^Right on the money Meninarmer.

Loverboy pictures himself a Will Smith (symbol of successful negro integrationism) fighting those "evil Robots" so he can be an American in peace. LOL

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Meninarmer

How does having a Job mean you like the system?

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^ Don't let these hateful people drag you down King, you're better than them.

THEY ARE FEARMONGERS AND THAT'S THEIR GAME. AND WHILE THERE IS A LOT OF TRUTH IN THOSE ZEITGEIST VIDEOS - UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S MAINLY HYPE.

Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around laws. --Plato (427 - 347 B.C.)

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
This AllixDarcy is . . . strange.

Allix Darcy is certainly a strange guy. Everybody knows that T! [Big Grin]
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^ and here comes another Obama (American government) fan. LOL
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quote:
Originally posted by akoben:
^ and here comes another Obama (American government) fan. LOL

Personally, I think Obama is a great guy but he is just a pawn to distract Americans from the plot the Eite plan to do. Ron Paul had a plan to abolish the Federal Reserve bank and look how little media attention he recieved. Obama is'nt the problem here....They're just using him like a puppet...only to assinate him if he does win. I think McCain will win becuase he fits into their plan seeing as he is another Bush...
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