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Crazzzy
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It is easy, African Americans look at their homeland they came from West Africa and see that their is no history or anything to be proud of. So they look to the North and East africa to compansate for their ancestors non achievements.
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That is pretty much on the mark.
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Crazzzy look at him/herself in the mirror don't like what he/she sees and come here to project..African Americans for the most part claim all parts of AFRICA..because they can Literally ..From Estivanico who was the first to make contact with what is now Arizona to sharing dna with Egyptians and other Nile valley folks..and what do you mean no achievements to be proud of when it is our culture you have down-loaded on your Ipod and or concept of cool that you and yours copy constantly

Zar in Egypt and in America

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ausar wrote;
Zar rituals are mostly practiced in lower class Sai'idi and Baladi communities throughout Egypt. The reason why many are practiced is either to heal or caste out evil spirits.

Most of the major participants are females. Very few males lead these ceremonies,and it tends to be an outlet for women in a male dominated society.

If you are at all familiar with Voodoo or Voudum, you know what Zar is...

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"Zar, in the sense of possession, is usually, though not exclusively, inherited. It is also contagious and may strike at any time. Diriye Abdullahi, a native of Somalia, says that the zar is basically a dance of spirits, or a religious dance - kind of leftover from the old African deities, a variant of what we describe in the west as "voodoo". The old African deities were headed by two figures; Azuzar (the male, assoc. with Osiris) and Ausitu (the female, known in the west as Isis). Ausitu (or Aysitu in Somalia) is still celebrated and given offerings by pregnant women so that she will provide them with a safe birth. He describes it as a ritual dance which is mostly observed by women, especially older women. This corresponds to the practice of older African religions, in which older women were the priestesses. He maintains that younger women, especially unmarried women, are not generally thought to be "worthy of a visit by the spirit of Zar, who chooses domicile or residence in the person who is his choice."
Traditionally, women are carriers of the Zar tradition. A Zar is a spirit. Some Ethiopians and Yemenis have their own Zar, like a guide of guardian angel. The dance ritual, Zar, like other traditional healing ceremonies, as for instance practiced by the !Kung of Southern Africa, is done to regain a sense of balance and harmony in one's life and in tandem with the community.
The word Zar is thought by some to be a corruption of Jar which in the Cushitic language of the Agaw people is the word for Waaq the sky god. The Rastafarians call god Jah.
And Yah is a very old Ancient Egyptian word for God.
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The Zar: Women's Theatre in the Southern Sudan,"Women's Medicine: Zar Cult in Africa and Beyond, ed. by Ioan Lewis, Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 1991

from my own experiences...
As an African American, born in (Voodoo) Louisiana...
One of the first things you learn as a Black youngster is that when you go to church on Sunday, DO NOT SIT NEXT TO A WOMAN, especially a middle-aged one. When this "zar spirit" hits one of these women (it usually affects several women almost simultaneously), they begin to gesticulate and shout out loud. They then, usually, make their way to the church's aisle where they begin to dance themselves into a trance like frenzy, eventually feinting or becoming rigid, where they have to be fanned and literally carried out of the auditorium. And your biggest fear is that this spirit might also hit you!
...we call this 'the Holy Ghost' in (Voodoo) Louisiana.

The only thing missing is some formalized ritual, which obviously isn't necessary.

and from EW Budge on Ancient Egyptian Voodoo

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It was well known in Egypt and the Sudan at a very early period that if a magician obtained some portion of a person's body, e.g., a hair, a paring of a nail, a fragment of skin, or a portion of some efflux from the body, spells could be used upon them which would have the effect of causing grievous harm to that person. --Legends of the Egyptian Gods, EW Budge, p.xxxiv

...and my mama would always make sure that clipped nails or cut hair was always flushed down the toilet!
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LOL

When the Europeans came to West Africa all they found was people living in huts and they did not even have writing or even the Wheel. LOL

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quote:
Originally posted by Crazzzy:
It is easy, African Americans look at their homeland they came from West Africa and see that their is no history or anything to be proud of. So they look to the North and East africa to compansate for their ancestors non achievements.

The same that can be said about North American whites and Nothern Europeans. They all look to Southern European(Rome and Greece) to compansate for their ancestors who were considered BARBARIANS.
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Brada, Almost all slaves were west Africans. African Americans have no connection to east africa or caucasian north african areas like egypt.
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Crazzzy azz
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When the Europeans came to West Africa all they found was people living in huts and they did not even have writing or even the Wheel. LOL
But of course they did
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And most folks lived in huts back then so what??
but some folks lived like this that your ancestors destroyed and then claimed notthing but huts were there
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as a matter of fact the houses looked very similar to most Japanese houses of the same era.
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quote:
Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
Crazzzy look at him/herself in the mirror

Why do you do it man? Why? Just leave it alone.
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^ Still LOL you people are so pathetic to realise they were most likely built in the mid-late 1000 century by outsiders. LOL
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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
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Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
Crazzzy look at him/herself in the mirror

Why do you do it man? Why? Just leave it alone.
It is very easy to tick off Afrocentrics. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by Khufu:
The same that can be said about North American whites and Nothern Europeans. They all look to Southern European(Rome and Greece) to compansate for their ancestors who were considered BARBARIANS.

I STG, you took the words 'right out of my mouth'. I was just getting ready to type this until I scrolled down. [Smile]
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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
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Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:
Crazzzy look at him/herself in the mirror

Why do you do it man? Why? Just leave it alone.
Its sad that people feed into bait threads like these..SAD.
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quote:
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Brada, Almost all slaves were west Africans. African Americans have no connection to east africa or caucasian north african areas like egypt.

Using your same logic. That would mean Northern Europeans(like yourself)do not hail from Greece or Rome and have no connection WHATSOEVER to Southern Europe areas like Rome or Greece right?

LMFAO→→→Caucasian North Africans. Another European typical tactic to try to lay claim on ancient civilizations based on Pseudo science.

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Hay I ain't mad?? I am laughing my azz off...and Anguish ..I know man I know..  -
No!! it wasn't Crazzzay azz such cities were built before a single Euro set foot in that part of Africa...you just can't believe your eyes only your hype..LOL.. [Big Grin] anyway goodnite yall..

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Assuming what you say is true, there is still no comparison. The Northern American whites and Northern Europeans lead the world today. Can that be said of west Africans? NAW and NE actually have something to show in this day and age. What do W.African Negroes have to show besides mudhuts and speakchucks?


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Originally posted by Khufu:
The same that can be said about North American whites and Nothern Europeans. They all look to Southern European(Rome and Greece) to compansate for their ancestors who were considered BARBARIANS.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Recovering Afro-holic:
[QB] Assuming what you say is true, there is still no comparison. The Northern American whites and Northern Europeans lead the world today. Can that be said of west Africans? NAW and NE actually have something to show in this day and age. What do W.African Negroes have to show besides mudhuts and speakchucks?


First and foremost, North America would not exist in its current state (leading world power, most wealthiest nation, etc) if blacks had not been a part of the history. Because if it were not for slavery, the USA would have dissolved as quickly as it was erected. Most whites, today, would be in an English prison serving the remaining sentence on your family's sentence for revolting against the english monarchy and declaring independence.

LMFAO as for Europe, the majority of europe is broke, living in squalor, car thieves, etc etc. it's really unfortunate for you that you believe in a grand fantasy that 4 countries (UK, france, netherlands, and germany) represents all of europe-- 49 total countries. lets more about those red necks on the russia rice farms, especially since russia is the largest cesspool (as far as acreage) in europe.


The white countries that did not steal from black people and couldn't afford an expedition to Africa, have been living in shambles for 10s of 1000s of years.

Here's a nice quote for you Nothern Euros:


[["your whole civilization is built upon the exploitation and oppression of people, not superiority, but inferiority."]]

Sit back and watch Africa (West Africa) become a 1st world economic power while Western civilization continues to crumble!

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Africans achieved less than Europeans not because Africans are less mentally capable or less intelligent or any other horse **** Europeans like to make up.

The only reason for Africa's lack of development is because some parts of Africa lack natural resources such as metals, coal, petroleum and other things needed to built, resources which Europe has in abundance. Also some parts of Africa are blocked by the Sahara desert and by tropical rainforests and hence are inaccessible which hinders economic development. Africa has the largest hot desert and the second largest tropical forest in the world that hinder building transcontinental means of transportations, hampering its economy.

Secondly the tropics are more hospitable to disease than the colder climates of Europe. Also the extreme heat in some regions of Africa make people less productive. Evidence has shown that people are less productive in extreme heat.

These are the only real reasons for Africa's lack of development and NOT what Eurotrash like to think: that Africans are less intelligent than Europeans or anything of that sort.

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quote:
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These are the only real reasons for Africa's lack of development and NOT what Eurotrash like to think: that Africans are less intelligent than Europeans or anything of that sort.

If this is the case why are you trying to explain and ratoinalize with Euronut trolls
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These people are most likely people from Stormfront. I do not know why you people even respond, you know they are just doing it to have a laugh.
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quote:
Originally posted by Player 14:
Africans achieved less than Europeans not because Africans are less mentally capable or less intelligent or any other horse **** Europeans like to make up.

The only reason for Africa's lack of development is because some parts of Africa lack natural resources such as metals, coal, petroleum and other things needed to built, resources which Europe has in abundance. Also some parts of Africa are blocked by the Sahara desert and by tropical rainforests and hence are inaccessible which hinders economic development. Africa has the largest hot desert and the second largest tropical forest in the world that hinder building transcontinental means of transportations, hampering its economy.

Secondly the tropics are more hospitable to disease than the colder climates of Europe. Also the extreme heat in some regions of Africa make people less productive. Evidence has shown that people are less productive in extreme heat.

These are the only real reasons for Africa's lack of development and NOT what Eurotrash like to think: that Africans are less intelligent than Europeans or anything of that sort.

Even tho I do not agree with some Afrocentrics views. I think your comments nailed it.

North Europeans would not have been where they are now if not for the Middle-East and Asia. The gunpowder that they used to enslave africans, was invented in Asia.

What the Europeans/Arabs did to Africans always gets me angry at what humans are capable of. Yet looking at the many genocides humans have commited to eachother says history is filled with barbarism. That all humans are capable of the same horrifics things no matter what skin tone. People forget humans are not that different to few animals behavior.

I have always believed that Racisim has to do something with the brain and how the brain precieves the world and other people that it different to it self. For example brain will be on alert/fear mode if someone looks different to him self. I am no scientist so I cannot explain that very well.

People should not blame the actions and views of a few on a whole people who happen to share similar skin tone.

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which is what I try and explain to people all the time.

You Can't blame all White people for the actions of an evil minority.

We must overlook our differences and come together as a Human Race. Learning about eachother and how we survive in this world is important. The divide and rule tactic begins with each ethnicity fearing and hating eachother.

Love needs to be spread all over the world. There is not much love in India, we know this because there is 60 million children in slave labor in that country. The mass(People) need to start simply talking to eachother and that would help dispell some of the stereotypes people have for each other.

Peace

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Most people do not even care about the views that are shared here and Stormfront. Most people in the world just care about their family and future for their children.
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Familys need to take action to defend there children.

Society is out to corrupt the future(Youth). Look at america with the entertainment media. They promote sex, drugs and violence to the children. Look at Poland. They have a crisis with there young girls. I was reading in a newspaper that these Girls prostitute themselves for clothes in malls. This is what society is doing to the girls in poland. Materialism, Money is brainwashing the children and they don't seem to realize there future hangs in the balance. Parents are in the middle of a fight between society and themselves for the minds of there children.

3rd world parents are giving up on there children by forcing them to work instead of getting an education. India has children as young as nine yearsold who are working in stone quarries breaking up there hands. This is just sadness.

Peace

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quote:
Originally posted by SiskoDS9:
quote:
Originally posted by Player 14:
Africans achieved less than Europeans not because Africans are less mentally capable or less intelligent or any other horse **** Europeans like to make up.

The only reason for Africa's lack of development is because some parts of Africa lack natural resources such as metals, coal, petroleum and other things needed to built, resources which Europe has in abundance. Also some parts of Africa are blocked by the Sahara desert and by tropical rainforests and hence are inaccessible which hinders economic development. Africa has the largest hot desert and the second largest tropical forest in the world that hinder building transcontinental means of transportations, hampering its economy.

Secondly the tropics are more hospitable to disease than the colder climates of Europe. Also the extreme heat in some regions of Africa make people less productive. Evidence has shown that people are less productive in extreme heat.

These are the only real reasons for Africa's lack of development and NOT what Eurotrash like to think: that Africans are less intelligent than Europeans or anything of that sort.

Even tho I do not agree with some Afrocentrics views. I think your comments nailed it.

North Europeans would not have been where they are now if not for the Middle-East and Asia. The gunpowder that they used to enslave africans, was invented in Asia.

What the Europeans/Arabs did to Africans always gets me angry at what humans are capable of. Yet looking at the many genocides humans have commited to eachother says history is filled with barbarism. That all humans are capable of the same horrifics things no matter what skin tone. People forget humans are not that different to few animals behavior.

I have always believed that Racisim has to do something with the brain and how the brain precieves the world and other people that it different to it self. For example brain will be on alert/fear mode if someone looks different to him self. I am no scientist so I cannot explain that very well.

People should not blame the actions and views of a few on a whole people who happen to share similar skin tone.

I agree with this. In my opinion Supremacy like White supremacy is based off of the opression of other people. White nationalists claim to want an all white America but deep down inside they need blacks, Jews, Mexicans anyone to uphold their Ideology too. Without another race to opress they would turn to opressing each other as Europeans did on a Large scale in Europe during Middle ages etc.

My mother always said Why do you "Hate"someone, when in reality to "Hate" someone is to CARE for them.

BTW, you don't have to agree with anyones veiws but I can tell that you have been some what balanced in your approach. If you give repect you will get it. Unlike others you agenda is not to show case some mental scars at Africans by throwing cheap insults.

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quote:
The only reason for Africa's lack of development is because some parts of Africa lack natural resources such as metals, coal, petroleum and other things needed to built, resources which Europe has in abundance. Also some parts of Africa are blocked by the Sahara desert and by tropical rainforests and hence are inaccessible which hinders economic development. Africa has the largest hot desert and the second largest tropical forest in the world that hinder building transcontinental means of transportations, hampering its economy.

Player 14 you've already lost the debate because you have accepted a completely spurious notion that human societies are supposed to develope along some prescribed path. Don't ever apologize to these scum, these vermin, these low crawling things, like Hammer and recovering afroholic for the material circumstanes of our West African ancestors. There is no need to for that when you look at all the facts. If human debris such as these are the result of Western civilization, and they are, then western civilization is not worth a fart or a farthing.
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quote:
Originally posted by Player 14:
Africans achieved less than Europeans not because Africans are less mentally capable or less intelligent or any other horse **** Europeans like to make up.

The only reason for Africa's lack of development is because some parts of Africa lack natural resources such as metals, coal, petroleum and other things needed to built, resources which Europe has in abundance. Also some parts of Africa are blocked by the Sahara desert and by tropical rainforests and hence are inaccessible which hinders economic development. Africa has the largest hot desert and the second largest tropical forest in the world that hinder building transcontinental means of transportations, hampering its economy.

Secondly the tropics are more hospitable to disease than the colder climates of Europe. Also the extreme heat in some regions of Africa make people less productive. Evidence has shown that people are less productive in extreme heat.

These are the only real reasons for Africa's lack of development and NOT what Eurotrash like to think: that Africans are less intelligent than Europeans or anything of that sort.

This sounds like Jared Diamond.
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quote:
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Africans achieved less than Europeans not because Africans are less mentally capable or less intelligent or any other horse **** Europeans like to make up.

Stop playing into the filthy hands of the Satanic pig-skinned ugly white devil.

Africans have NOT achieved LESS than Europeans.

The ONLY area Europeans have overachieved blacks in is in the area of pillaging, massacring, and mass-murdering.

Europe is simply a cold wasteland with no signs of early life and civilization.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crazzzy:
LOL

When the Europeans came to West Africa all they found was people living in huts and they did not even have writing or even the Wheel. LOL

Typical cracker ranting.
Africa is in it's condition because of your wicked abuse and mistreatment of the Black people's of the world. Black people halted in progress ever since you slimy cave-monkey crawled out of your caves and colonized the world. If you want a valid comparison between their civility and yours don't compare yourselves to them after you colonize us. Compare the Anglo, German, Scandinavian, "people" to all others before 1,500 AD when there was a level playing field.

Africans didn't invent the wheel? Typical cracker logic judging how 'advanced' a culture is based on how many tools VALUED by Europeans is in use.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crazzzy:
It is easy, African Americans look at their homeland they came from West Africa and see that their is no history or anything to be proud of. So they look to the North and East africa to compansate for their ancestors non achievements.

Northern Europe was the last part of the world to become civilized. It was Egyptians that are the fathers of Mathematics, Chemistry, Physics, Astronomy, Architecture, Engineering, and Medicine. All non-Whites had thriving civilizations before your criminal garbage race copied their knowledge and used the good nature of non-Whites or humans to harm them. efore 1500 AD Europe was **** and you were burning you own scientists alive before the Moors gave you the light of civilization. Anyway retarded white animals,being born to a demonic race of mass-murderers your intelligence is innately too limited and you don't deserve to debate with the likes of me.
You hideous, repulsive, cracker beast,Africans pioneered civilization, medicine, mathematics, philosophy and science. The Moors, Malians, Kushites, Nubians, and Egyptians were scientifically advanced and had more inventiveness than the repulsive crackers. Your dumb asses keep bragging about inventing everything but hide the fact that all this technological achievement and know-how was just a chain reaction following the achievements of humans. Now I demand you to list a significant northern European cracker achievement before 1,500 AD.The question is what did your "people" do before 1,500 AD? They burned their "scientists" at the stake, they were primitive, barbaric, cruel, sadistic, rapacious, prone to mass rape (vikings), and backward. You crackers do realize that virtually all of the accomplishments from Northern Europe came in the past 500 years, when outsiders like the Moors translated the scientific texts of Iranians and Arabs, don't you? 500 years of progress does not make up for 5,000 years of retardation. You obviously were sub-human for having such a long history backwardness.


If the cracker were at the level of non-crackers then northern European crackers namely Germans, Scandinavians, Russians, Anglo-Saxons would have long and proud ancient history like humans do. But they don't.


The Nubians and Egyptians were light years ahead of Europe in civility. Your race has historically been the number one criminals of all time. Countless number of genocides committed. The vikings were known to be mass murdering torturing gang rapists. Romans were blood thirsty savages. Germans exterminating half of their own population. World War I and World War II. Stealing three continents from non crackers. Inventing mass slavery. Inventing colonialism. Making zero contributions to science for 5,000 years after non-crackers had thriving civilizations. Whites are the most uncivilized race of all. Whites have invented the nuclear bomb, atomic bomb, and other destructive devices. This is not advanced civilization but advanced barbarism you pig-skinned disgusting cracker animal.


Contrary to some Afrocentric claims, the Moors and Romans did not civilize the Northern European crackers. The technology they introduced only enabled them to practice their barbarism in a more advance way. Northern Europeans are still the most backwards and barbaric people on the fucking planet.

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So what you are saying is that the African Negro is too weak to defend itself. I must agree w/you on this.


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Originally posted by GlobalAfrikanSupremacy:
Typical cracker ranting.
Africa is in it's condition because of your wicked abuse and mistreatment of the Black people's of the world. Black people halted in progress ever since you slimy cave-monkey crawled out of your caves and colonized the world. If you want a valid comparison between their civility and yours don't compare yourselves to them after you colonize us. Compare the Anglo, German, Scandinavian, "people" to all others before 1,500 AD when there was a level playing field.

Africans didn't invent the wheel? Typical cracker logic judging how 'advanced' a culture is based on how many tools VALUED by Europeans is in use. [/QB]


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