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No matter how in the Hell you all try to side step this fact....They have Eurasian components within them, so all this African diveristy BS is exactly what I just said BS!
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quote:Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: ^^Hopefully you're past that "Somalid" nonsense?
No answer from Yonis = yes I am.
Not really, i just want to know the diversity among us Somalids, the greater we are the better we are. I've always liked the Massai people, i guess the deep connection between us are proved now. They are indigenous east-africans after all, despite being none-afrasian in tounge.
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quote:Originally posted by White Nord: No matter how in the Hell you all try to side step this fact....They have Eurasian components within them, so all this African diveristy BS is exactly what I just said BS!
And what is Eurasian? NE africans have nothing to do with Europe or Asians, the only people we are connected to from those regions are those who recieved admixture from our ancestors.
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quote:Originally posted by White Nord: No matter how in the Hell you all try to side step this fact....They have Eurasian components within them, so all this African diveristy BS is exactly what I just said BS!
What are you; retarded?
Clear example of African diversity from an E1b1a carrying African....
Rwandan president Paul Kagame, a genetically E1b1a carrying African, not E1b1b, with no outside non African admixture either, yet he doesn't fit the broad African physiognomy usually attributed to Africans deemed as "Negroid"....
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quote:Originally posted by White Nord: No matter how in the Hell you all try to side step this fact....They have Eurasian components within them, so all this African diveristy BS is exactly what I just said BS!
What are you; retarded?
In a way, yes he is retarded. Remember, racism is a mental disorder that impedes logical thinking let alone comprehension.
The fool was just shown evidence that all these African populations as diverse in certain features as they are carried nil to zilch Eurasian ancestry, yet he chooses to say otherwise without evidence to the contrary. Reminds me of another white nut in here who even claims to be a college professor. Posts: 26356 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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White Nord, address the fact of African ancestry in Europeans, including Northern Europeans...
From the European Journal of Genetics:
New research has identified the first genetic evidence of Africans having lived amongst "indigenous" British people for centuries. Their descendants, living across the UK today, were unaware of their black ancestry.
. We describe the presence of an hgA1 chromosome in an indigenous British male; comparison with African examples suggests a Western African origin. Seven out of 18 men carrying the same rare east-Yorkshire surname as the original male also carry hgA1 chromosomes, and documentary research resolves them into two genealogies with most-recent-common-ancestors living in Yorkshire in the late 18th century. Analysis using 77 Y-short tandem repeats (STRs) is consistent with coalescence a few generations earlier. Our findings represent the first genetic evidence of Africans among 'indigenous' British, and emphasize the complexity of human migration history as well as the pitfalls of assigning geographical origin from Y-chromosomal haplotypes.
^ Europeans have African components within them.
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White Nord, address the fact of African ancestry in Europeans, including Northern Europeans...
From the European Journal of Genetics:
New research has identified the first genetic evidence of Africans having lived amongst "indigenous" British people for centuries. Their descendants, living across the UK today, were unaware of their black ancestry.
. We describe the presence of an hgA1 chromosome in an indigenous British male; comparison with African examples suggests a Western African origin. Seven out of 18 men carrying the same rare east-Yorkshire surname as the original male also carry hgA1 chromosomes, and documentary research resolves them into two genealogies with most-recent-common-ancestors living in Yorkshire in the late 18th century. Analysis using 77 Y-short tandem repeats (STRs) is consistent with coalescence a few generations earlier. Our findings represent the first genetic evidence of Africans among 'indigenous' British, and emphasize the complexity of human migration history as well as the pitfalls of assigning geographical origin from Y-chromosomal haplotypes.
^ Europeans have African components within them.
What the Hell is wrong with you, don't answer my question with a pointless question! The fact that you're so desperately trying to evade is that Northeast Africans with these features suppositely back great African genetic diversity have Eurasian componenets in their genetic make-up. FACT I don't give a damn about one president of an African country, I'm talking about a general population here.
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quote:Originally posted by White Nord: FACT I don't give a damn about one president of an African country, I'm talking about a general population here.
That man is a Tutsi from Rwanda, and they, as a population have been deemed Caucasoid in the past....
Note;
The Story of Man Carleton Coon
p 196-197 Borzoi Books, 1965
Few skeletons have been found in the Sahara, and these are hard to date because of soil erosion. In Arabia prehistoric archaeology has barely been started. Yet we can be reasonably confident, until other evidence upsets the theory, that these deserts were the home of the slender variety of Caucasoid man. In East Africa this type has survived among the slender, narrow-faced Watusi and other cattle people.
^^Coon is talking about the man I posted, and his people, the Tutsi, who have ~80% E3a according to published data, and no outside admixture nada, zilch.
Clear example of African diversity from E1b1a carrying Africans....
Rwandan president Paul Kagame, a genetically E1b1a carrying African, not E1b1b, with no outside non African admixture either, yet he a Tutsi, doesn't fit the broad African physiognomy usually attributed to Africans deemed as "Negroid"....
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White Nord, address the fact of African ancestry in Europeans, including Northern Europeans...
From the European Journal of Genetics:
New research has identified the first genetic evidence of Africans having lived amongst "indigenous" British people for centuries. Their descendants, living across the UK today, were unaware of their black ancestry.
. We describe the presence of an hgA1 chromosome in an indigenous British male; comparison with African examples suggests a Western African origin. Seven out of 18 men carrying the same rare east-Yorkshire surname as the original male also carry hgA1 chromosomes, and documentary research resolves them into two genealogies with most-recent-common-ancestors living in Yorkshire in the late 18th century. Analysis using 77 Y-short tandem repeats (STRs) is consistent with coalescence a few generations earlier. Our findings represent the first genetic evidence of Africans among 'indigenous' British, and emphasize the complexity of human migration history as well as the pitfalls of assigning geographical origin from Y-chromosomal haplotypes.
^ Europeans have African components within them.
quote:What the Hell is wrong with you, don't answer my question with a pointless question
The fact is that Europeans have African components within them.
Your failure to admit this, renders your posts pointless.... all of them.
Your nonresponsive reply, merely proves that when given evidence of Europeans being mixed [phenetically, genetically, in *every* way], you have no answer. Posts: 15202 | Registered: Jun 2004
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^ Asians also have "African components within them". Your entire purpose on ES is pointless. Posts: 4165 | From: jamaica | Registered: May 2008
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quote:The fact that you're so desperately trying to evade is that Northeast Africans with these features suppositely back great African genetic diversity
^ What features in NorthEast Africa originate in Eurasia?
List them.
Name the genetic basis, and archeological location of their Eurasian origin.
Site a scholar who can specifically locate the genes and phenotypes of "Eurasian" origin?
No?
Then you're really all hot air and no substance, correct?
Meanwhhile, refute the following....
The oldest remains of Homo sapiens sapiens found in East Africa [resemble] several living populations of East Africa, like the Tutsi of Rwanda and Burundi, who are very dark skinned and differ greatly from Europeans in a number of body proportions. There is every reason to believe that they are ancestral to the living 'Elongated East Africans'. They should not be considered closely related to Europeans. [...] In skin colour, the Tutsi are darker than the Hutu, in the reverse direction to that leading to the caucasoids. Lip thickness provides a similar case: on an average the lips of the Tutsi are thicker than those of the Hutu. [Jean Hiernaux, "The People of Africa"]
New research has identified the first genetic evidence of Africans having lived amongst "indigenous" British people for centuries. Their descendants, living across the UK today, were unaware of their black ancestry.
. We describe the presence of an hgA1 chromosome in an indigenous British male; comparison with African examples suggests a Western African origin. Seven out of 18 men carrying the same rare east-Yorkshire surname as the original male also carry hgA1 chromosomes, and documentary research resolves them into two genealogies with most-recent-common-ancestors living in Yorkshire in the late 18th century. Analysis using 77 Y-short tandem repeats (STRs) is consistent with coalescence a few generations earlier. Our findings represent the first genetic evidence of Africans among 'indigenous' British, and emphasize the complexity of human migration history as well as the pitfalls of assigning geographical origin from Y-chromosomal haplotypes.
quote:Originally posted by akoben: ^ Asians also have "African components within them".
^ Then you can site examples of Haplotype A, [found in Britain], in say... China, for example?
Go ahead, then, post a study that can show you to be something more than intellectually impotent jackass.
If not, then you are left to choke on the fact that Europeans are fundamentally mixed with Africans when compared to East Asians, for example, as shown....
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"Europeans appear as a mixture - 2/3 Asian, 1/3 African".
"It can be shown that populations *resulting from admixture* are shorter than other branches".
"The existence of intermediate groups, tends to negate the validity of the concept of race."
"Europeans, are *not* a race" [/QB]
^ Too bad, Europes hybrid status infuriates you, and you have no answer.
quote:Originally posted by akoben: ^ Asians also have "African components within them". Your entire purpose on ES is pointless.
Wrong, everyones ancestors WERE African components that doesn't make them Africans now, but Euroes are mulattoes as a result of AfroJews from the middle East miscegenating.
Let that sit.
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quote:Originally posted by akoben: ^ Asians also have "African components within them".
^ Then you can site examples of Haplotype A, [found in Britain], in say... China, for example
You stubborn illiterate, where did I say anything about Chinese having Haplotype A? And does the absence of it means Asians don't have "African components within them"? Please say yes so we can all laugh in your face like we always do.
quote:"Europeans, are *not* a race"
Neither are Asians. What's your point? Oh, I'm sorry: it's that you're the forum jackass.
quote:Wrong, everyones ancestors WERE African components that doesn't make them Africans now
You must the ultra illiterate alter ego of rasolowitz. Where did I say it made them "Africans"?
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quote: And does the absence of it means Asians don't have "African components within them"?
^ Yes, it does, if you can't name these so called components, nor site a scholar who will agree with your jackass prattle.
Try again. ?
quote:Originally posted by rasol: From the European Journal of Genetics:
New research has identified the first genetic evidence of Africans having lived amongst "indigenous" British people for centuries. Their descendants, living across the UK today, were unaware of their black ancestry.
. We describe the presence of an hgA1 chromosome in an indigenous British male; comparison with African examples suggests a Western African origin. Seven out of 18 men carrying the same rare east-Yorkshire surname as the original male also carry hgA1 chromosomes, and documentary research resolves them into two genealogies with most-recent-common-ancestors living in Yorkshire in the late 18th century. Analysis using 77 Y-short tandem repeats (STRs) is consistent with coalescence a few generations earlier. Our findings represent the first genetic evidence of Africans among 'indigenous' British, and emphasize the complexity of human migration history as well as the pitfalls of assigning geographical origin from Y-chromosomal haplotypes.
quote:Originally posted by akoben: ^ Asians also have "African components within them".
^ Then you can site examples of Haplotype A, [found in Britain], in say... China, for example?
Go ahead, then, post a study that can show you to be something more than intellectually impotent jackass.
If not, then you are left to choke on the fact that Europeans are fundamentally mixed with Africans when compared to East Asians, for example, as shown....
quote:
"Europeans appear as a mixture - 2/3 Asian, 1/3 African".
"It can be shown that populations *resulting from admixture* are shorter than other branches".
"The existence of intermediate groups, tends to negate the validity of the concept of race."
"Europeans, are *not* a race"
^ Too bad, Europes hybrid status infuriates you, and you have no answer.
quote: And does the absence of it means Asians don't have "African components within them"?
^ Yes, it does, if you can't name these so called components, nor site a scholar who will agree with your jackass prattle.
You're humiliated again, which your entire life story.
quote:the background genetic variation of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in time the presence of modern humans in these areas. Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
quote:^ you claimed they were
Where did I claim they were biological race?
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quote:the background genetic variation of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in *time the presence of modern humans in these areas.*
^ defines african origin of all humans, has nothing to do with post OOA admixture.
quote: Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
^ defines the common origin of non Afrians, prior to European admixture with Africans, which casues Europeans to show as a genetic hybrid of Asian and Africans, whereas neither Asians nor Australians show as being hybridised with Africans.
As stated, and shown.....
"Europeans appear as a mixture - 2/3 Asian, 1/3 African".
"It can be shown that populations *resulting from admixture* are shorter than other branches".
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^ not my fault an illiterate doesn't understand how the quote below confirms that Asians also have "African components within them".
quote:the background genetic variation of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in time the presence of modern humans in these areas. Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
Humiliation is your life story. Posts: 4165 | From: jamaica | Registered: May 2008
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^ but it is your fault that you're stupid and can't read.
quote: the background genetic variation of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in time the presence of modern humans in these areas.
^ defines human species african origin, not component admixture, dumb dumb.
quote: Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged.
^ common origin of non africans.
quote:"Europeans appear as a mixture - 2/3 Asian, 1/3 African".
^ hybridisation of europeans and africans.
nothing about African [components] in Asians, sorry, only one saying that is you.
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quote:Asians nor Australians show as being hybridised with Africans
Who said they did? I said that Asians also have "African components within them". Deal with that. Opps...I forgot, you can't. So you can squeal around the thread, like you always do with your red herrings, but everyone saw your bush.
quote:but still fails to *name* 'african components' in east asians?
Nice try, but lying won't hide the fact of your humiliation. Asians also have "African components within them".
quote:the background genetic variation of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in time the presence of modern humans in these areas. Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
^Nice try??? What's that? Is that an african component in asians?
No. Then how does it help you?
Does it make you feel better about having no answer?
rotfl! ^ meanwhile, african components in Europeans....
quote:Originally posted by rasol: [qb] From the European Journal of Genetics:
New research has identified the first genetic evidence of Africans having lived amongst "indigenous" British people for centuries. Their descendants, living across the UK today, were unaware of their black ancestry.
. We describe the presence of an hgA1 chromosome in an indigenous British male; comparison with African examples suggests a Western African origin. Seven out of 18 men carrying the same rare east-Yorkshire surname as the original male also carry hgA1 chromosomes, and documentary research resolves them into two genealogies with most-recent-common-ancestors living in Yorkshire in the late 18th century. Analysis using 77 Y-short tandem repeats (STRs) is consistent with coalescence a few generations earlier. Our findings represent the first genetic evidence of Africans among 'indigenous' British, and emphasize the complexity of human migration history as well as the pitfalls of assigning geographical origin from Y-chromosomal haplotypes.
good night jackass.
you lose again, but then you're used to that, so...
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Sorry, Asians also have "African components within them".
quote:the background genetic variation of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in time the presence of modern humans in these areas. Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
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Europeans Australians and Asians had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
^ Exactly so.
Too bad this doesn't help you deny the fact that Europeans split from Asians and mixed with Africans, which causes them to show as genetic AFro-Asian hybrids, whereas eAst Asian and Australian do not.
"Europeans appear as a mixture - 2/3 Asian, 1/3 African".
"It can be shown that populations *resulting from admixture* are shorter than other branches".
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quote:then Europeans split from Asians and mixed with Africans
Thank you! Thats what I've been trying to tell gringollum!!!!!!!!!!!
You clueless fucking jackass, you just shot your girlfriends precioussss thesis of Asians mixing with Africans dead in the water! WWAWAHAHAHAHAHAH
Meanwhile...
quote:the background genetic variation of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in time the presence of modern humans in these areas. Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
quote:Originally posted by akoben: Sorry, Asians also have "African components within them".
quote:the background genetic variation of, Europeans, Oceanians and Asians originated in Africa and precedes in time the presence of modern humans in these areas. Europeans and Asian-Australians did develop more unique genetic profiles over time, but had a common background before their average "uniqueness" emerged. - Keita
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Lmaoooooo, damn you're a slow twit. This is confirming as explained to you, the African origin of Europeans, Oceanians, and Asians.
This is not saying or explaining that Asians, Oceanians, or Europeans have post OOA African components the way in fact Europeans do.
Poor try.
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^ yes, poor try, as is his effort at burdan of proof fallacy.
he claims that Asians have African component admixture.
we simply ask him to name these so called components.
of course, he can't.
so he tries to talk around this failure which in fact - ends - this debate, by asking us to prove that Asians don't have African admixture.
akoben's jackass ruse is of course, fallacious.
negative-proof is not required for claims that are baseless to begin with.
and by definition his claims are baseless for however long HE FAILS TO IDENTIFY the claimed components.
Might as well claim Japanese come from Jupiter, and when failing to produce evidence, ask for proof that they don't come from Jupiter.
one need not prove that undocumented claims don't exist. the argument ends with the failure to document them, and this is THE END.
^ Akoben's is a cautionary tale, for white nord - don't be a jackasss and humiliate yourself in public. Posts: 15202 | Registered: Jun 2004
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Leave it to the Nazi jackass to join the Nordist-nim-wit in an orgy of idiocy!
Notice that whenever the degenerate donkey gets intellectually frustrated, he projects his sexual frustrations in the form of posts like these below.
As if any of this can make up for his inept intelligence.
Hey Eva, instead of offering us unsights into your twisted sexual fantasies of cross-dressing and voyeurism, why not answer these questions below?
Even though all human populations originated in Africa, how can geneticist distinguish non-African populations such as Asians and Australians from those that never left the continent??
When you answer this question we just might begin to take you a little bit seriously. Until then...
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How desperate do you have to be for a "win" in a debate for you to deny Africans mixed with Asians "post OOA"? I guess being constantly whipped in debates will reduce anyone to a talking head for a mythical pure Asian race. Next to gringo's primarily hybridised supra Saharans and considerably cold adapted Asians living in Europe mating with incoming Africans, this must be your dumbest logic yet! lol
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I already gave it to you and dared you to contradict it and show us how Asians are pure and free of African genetic admixture post OOA. You fail to do this. Why?
Fact is, Africans lived amongst "indigenous" British people for centuries. And Africans lived amongst "indigenous" Asian people for centuries. Hence Asians also have "African components within them". Posts: 4165 | From: jamaica | Registered: May 2008
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Desparation = 1 year devoted to denying the undeniable.....
"Europeans appear as a mixture - 2/3 Asian, 1/3 African".
"It can be shown that populations *resulting from admixture* are shorter than other branches".
^ Europeans are mixed with Africans in a way that East Asians are not.
Desparation is pretending to not understand this, simply because it deflates your fake sense of racist self esteem.
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Only three rant filled posts rasolowitz? This is well below your usual score of at least twenty which you normally need to vent your frustration at losing debates on ES.
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That's the spirit rasolowitz! Now keep churning them out to your usual numbers and you'll probably feel better about being a consistent loser in debates. lol
we know you don't have any real answers, but usually we can count on you to bring the comedy via miscitations, illiteracy, strawmen, non-sequitur and burden of proof fallacies.
remember, we can only humiliate you, when you actually reply.
right now, you're not helping! Posts: 15202 | Registered: Jun 2004
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