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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Yonis2: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by MindoverMatter718: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Yonis2: [qb] No, not that far, since many clades carried by most modern people didn't even exist during that time, 60k is way to far back. E3a and E3b splited some 30 thousand years ago. E3b mutated (somewhere in NE Africa) into sub-clades during the last 5-10 thousand years, which is quite recent. [/qb][/QUOTE]According to whom did E3a and E3b split 30kya; and, amongst what populations did these mutations occur and how did they look phenotypically? [/qb][/QUOTE]According to Cruciani et. al (2004). I'm not going to act as your librarian go fetch it yourself. [/qb][/QUOTE]Go fetch? :eek: Your immediate defensive attack from being asked simple questions, is quite telling. Well, According to published data Africans descendant of AB and E [40kya~] lineages with the PN2 clade denoting the common ancestor of all E3A and E3b Africans with E3b splitting about 25kya~. This underscores the common root of PN2 clade Y chromosome as shown.... E3a --- SRV10831.1, M42, M94, M139, M168, P9, M145, M213, Yap, SRY4064, M96, P29, P2, DYS391p, M2, P1 and... E3b --- SRV10831.1, M42, M94, M139, M168, P9, M145, M213, Yap, SRY4064, M96, P29, P2, DYS391p, M35 [QUOTE]Originally posted by Yonis2: [qb] Also, no one knows how they looked phenotypically, it's really irrelevant since phenotype is is an adaptive trait, only Nazis care about phenotype (Be they "black" or "white".) [/qb][/QUOTE]It's completely relevant, as you're the one stating E3b derived mutations after a split from E3a 30kya; hence the question of where did these mutations you describe arise, and amongst whom? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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