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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Just call me Jari: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by *Dalia*: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Just call me Jari: [qb] I want to see logically by the Koran how Muslims will make it and not die of the 2nd death by good deeds alone(being a Good Muslim and following the 5 creeds of Islam...[/qb][/QUOTE]The Qur'an says nothing about following *five creeds*. Surely those who believe; and those who are Jewish, and the Nazarenes, and the Sabians, whoever of them believes in God and the Last Day and does good works; they will have their recompense with their Lord, and there is no fear upon them, nor will they grieve. 2:62 There is no compulsion in the system; the proper way has been clarified from the wrong way. Whoever rejects evil, and believes in God, indeed he has taken grasp of the strongest hold that will never break. God is Hearer, Knower. 2:256 [/qb][/QUOTE]Forgive me but from my studies a True Muslim follows the Pillars accept the Hajj which is optional to those who are poor. Anyway you say those who believe in God(only Jews, Nazerines, and sabians) and do good Works will make it, so again I present this to you: [i]Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.[/i] [i]22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.[/i] The God of the Torah needs a blood sacrifice as an Attonement for sins. Jesus is this blood sacrifice to those who believe on him. Jesus shed his blood for all mankind. When we accept Christ a spirt comes upon us when we are baptized. It compels us to seek Christ and see how he walked as an example. For instance, The Koran teaches Good Works and Prayer..Did you know there is a certain way to pray, certain prophecies concerning the last days in the Torah that contradict the Koran. So again I ask you who or what is the Attonement of a Muslim? It can't be Christ because Christ says hippicrites pray out in the open, To pray in private and to say OUR Father..etc Jesus says he is the Son of God, the way the Truth and the Life, and that no man comes to the father but through him, Muslims teach Muhamed is the last prophet denying Christ his divinity and sacrifice, "Allah begat no Son"... [/qb][/QUOTE]You don't even know what your prophet taught. Jesus never demanded blood sacrifice. Granted you admit that Jesus taught that one did not have to pray publicly to be a believer as a result, just because you claim to be Christian does not mean you believe in Jesus when you don't follow his teachings. Many people claim that Jesus was the son of God . So name one place in the Bible where Jesus directly claimed he was the Son of God, he did claim that we were all the children of God. You claim that Jesus believed in blood sacrifice. Please give me one act of Jesus where he made blood sacrifice. The teachings of Jesus come from the New Testament--not Old Testament. Jesus taught you did not need a temple to worship God. He taught that we obtain grace and mercy by helping our fellow man. Name one place in the New Testament were Jesus directly says you have to make atonement. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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