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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Muhommed Abed: [QB] jari-Ankhamun I was not referring to you if you do not subscribe to this view that the majority of the moors were Black. I already know the moorish movement included Blacks. The blacks for the most part were conscripts. Also, blacks were the minority in moorish spain, as well as moorish north Africa. Here is a 10th century depiction of moors. As you can see there is one black moor amongst the majority Berber and Arab moors: [IMG]http://www.host-images.com/u/files/siwqrvhdpvnw0kod3l2q.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jari-Ankhamun: See this is the problem, no one said the Moors were Predominantly Black. Our Argument is that the Moors was used to refer to a multi-racial Ethnic group that INCLUDED blacks? How Hard is this to understand? Fawal wanted to present it as if the Moors were White, which unless you are calling Berbers and Arabs white that is not true either. Of Course the Moors were not all black, Hell they did not even take wives from their native lands but had families WITH NATIVE EUROPEANS...for Gods sake. Of course the Moors would be presented as Light Skinned with very few Jet Black sterotypical Sub Sahrans. Also the Population of Al-Andalucia would have varied from time to time. At one point the Native Iberians out nembered the Arabs and Berbers combined. Slavic Slaves were present, Yemini, Turks, Arabs, Egyptians, Syrians were present... How hard is this to understand, the Moors were originally the Black populations of North Africa, During the occupation it was a multi-racial category. [IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4341552508_dde6c48690_o.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4341552508_dde6c48690_o.jpg[/IMG] ^^^ On this one you can see Some mixed typed and some Black out numbered by Arabs. The word Moor was not used in early times for an ethnic group. It was used for black people who occupied the coasts of North Africa synonomously called Ethiopians. When the Arabians entered Spain the Spaniards and other Latins came to call to use the name Moro for them because of their color. Ur statement about the Moors is tantamount to saying the Negros were predominantly black. I don't know what that means, neither would have early Europeans or Christian Spaniards until the 13th century. When we talk about Al-Andalus and its history as a whole we call the Muslim inhabitants Moors. This is similar to "American" "Australian" and so forth regardless of the original meaning. Now you are right if we get technical(and sadly we should more often) We would break the "Moors" into different Ethnic groups the Muwalludun, Mozarabs, the Tafias, Saqiliba, Almoravids, Almohads etc. You are right though the word Moor: Greek word Mauros for the aboriginal inhabitants of North Africa. In english its usage is often used for the inhabitants of Muslim Spain be they african, Near Eastern or Mixed.[/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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