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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by typeZeiss: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] I disagree with Osirion's premise. Takruri is right that he obviously does not the history of these African states to blame Islam as the reason why they fell. These empires fell simply due to economic and mainly political turmoil the same as any other empire. [/qb][/QUOTE]Christian Egypt fell due to Islam. Christian Nubia fell due to Saladin. Christian Aksum fell due to the Islamic renaisance that cut off this civilization from the major trade routes. I am not sure why there is a failure to understand the different forms of Christianity that took root in Africa. Certainly I am not referring to the Christianity brought by the colonials powers. [/qb][/QUOTE]This a very simplistic view point. It has less to do with Islam and more to do with the fact that people who never got along with each other (different tribes in Arabia) were bound together by a common belief system which enabled them to fight off "enemies". If the entire jazeera came together for zoroastrianism, buddhism or whatever other ism, it would have been the same result. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes it is much more complex. Especially in the case of Christian Nubia that had long been inter-marrying with Arabs enough so that they had compromised significantly in terms of their zealousness to remain separate from Islamic influence. Certainly by the time of Saladin, Christian Nubia had already essentially fallen to Islam but was restored by the Aksumites. Only to fall again. Yes it was an economic collapse but this was still the result of Islamic blockage to trade. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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