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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ Yeah, that's the thing when Eurocentrism is not as "aggressive" or overt like a Nazi or something, it tends to get ignored. During my time as an undergrad student in the anthropology department I was well aware of the Solutrean Hypothesis and the type of mentality it entailed while other students were totally oblivious. I try to be as objective as I can about the situation and imagine how people would react if a black professor started dressing as a Meso-American person due to the Afro-Olmec Hypothesis. Suffice to say I have NEVER heard of the latter situation only the Pro-Solutrean professors. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: And here is an interesting passage from Aeschylus's play 'The Suppliant Maidens' that Tukukler first cited..[/qb] A native of Argos, Greece makes this descriptive remark about the Libyan Dainades: [i] O stranger maids, I may not trust this word, That ye have share in this our Argive race. No likeness of our country do ye bear, [b]But semblance as of Libyan womankind. Even such a stock by Nilus' banks might grow; Yea, and the Cyprian stamp, in female forms, Shows, to the life, what males impressed the same. And, furthermore, of roving Indian maids Whose camping-grounds by Aethiopia lie, And camels burdened even as mules, and bearing Riders, as horses bear, mine ears have heard; And tales of flesh-devouring mateless maids Called Amazons: to these, if bows ye bare[/b], I most had deemed you like. Speak further yet, That of your Argive birth the truth I learn. [/i] Note all the peoples the Argive listed who match the dark/black appearance of the Dainades![/QUOTE][qb]Thanks for that text. Did you notice that post-Minoan - Sedment cluster? It only happens in the male dendrogram (making it stand out, all the more). I'd have to look into it more closely to really form an opinion on what that cluster is about, but based on the the date ('post-Minoan') it could possibly relate to the Hellenic memory of Danaos as a patriarch of African settlers in the Aegean. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's the thing. We never hear about what the [i]actual[/i] situation was in the Aegean whether Neolithic or Bronze Age. When it comes to legends, we only hear about the Homeric [i]Iliad[/i] and [i]Odyssey[/i] but never about the 'Suppliant Maidens' or the lost epic [i]Aethiopica[/i]. Speaking of which note how in the description of the Danaide, reference is made not only to Libyans and Nilotes, but [b]Cyprians[/b] of Cyprus and Indians and [b]Aethiopians[/b], the latter are said to reside next to Indians which suggests this is NOT African Ethiopia but somewhere close to India whose people ride camels, mules, and horses. This sounds like Arabia. Not to mention the cannibalistic Amazons of Tritonis (the Maghreb). Also, what do you make of the craniometric graph where very close to the origin are "Proto-Mediterraneans" (of Europe?) right next to Nubian-D. What's up with that? And note that Somalis are not too far away. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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