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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tazarah: [qb] The man on the right has completely different facial features than what is shown in the painting. [/qb][/QUOTE]So what?! They're both 'black' people by today's standards. If you're hung up on something as trivial as facial features then you're going to lose to the Euronut warriors. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Archeopteryx: [qb] In a future where more extensive comparative genetic studies can be conducted in Egypt, we may find out more details about different ancestry and different groups relatedness to each other. For example which differences could one see in the genetics of people in upper Egypt and people in the Delta? There is work being done in the Delta where Neolithic sites are found and excavated. Also skeletons are found. But it seems no genetic studies have been done yet. We will see if Egyptian authorities will allow such studies in the future. [QUOTE]This article provides an overview of the first results from the archaeological fieldwork conducted at Tell el-Samara by a joint IFAO and Egyptian Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities mission. Located in the eastern Nile Delta, Tell el-Samara was a settlement inhabited from the late 5h millennium BCE to the end of the Early Dynastic period. The renewed archaeological investigations on the tell have uncovered the remains of one of the most ancient villages known so far in Egypt—providing detailed insights into the onset of Neolithic economy and sedentary village life in Lower Egypt. They have also revealed a continuous occupation sequence from the Neolithic period to the advent of the 1st Dynasty, which provides relevant data on the emergence and further development of a regional culture in the Nile Delta prior to the rise of a monarchy and the political unification of Egypt at the turn of the fourth and 3rd millennium BCE.[/QUOTE][URL=https://journals.openedition.org/bifao/11604]Investigating the Nile Delta’s First Settlements: Excavations at Tell el-Samara 2016-2019 BIFAO 2022[/URL] [URL=https://www.egyptindependent.com/oldest-neolithic-village-in-egypts-nile-delta-uncovered/]Oldest Neolithic village in Egypt’s Nile Delta uncovered - Egypt Independent 2018[/URL] [/qb][/QUOTE]The skeletal remains of the Delta have already been classified as African. [i]..sample populations available from northern Egypt from before the 1st Dynasty (Merimda, Maadi and Wadi Digla) turn out to be significantly different from sample populations from early Palestine and Byblos, suggesting a lack of common ancestors over a long time. If there was a south-north cline variation along the Nile valley it did not, from this limited evidence, continue smoothly on into southern Palestine. The limb-length proportions of males from the Egyptian sites group them with Africans rather than with Europeans.[/i] [Barry Kemp, "Ancient Egypt Anatomy of a Civilisation". (2005) Routledge. p.52-60] As far as genetics is concerned, uniparentals show them to be overwhelmingly African (Y-DNA E-M35 & mt M1 and L2). The only thing left is autosomal DNA which is the only thing left in debate and for obvious reasons. The autosomal DNA shows Natufian/Neolithic Levantine affiliations which many identify as "Eurasian". Yet as [URL=http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2016/06/pca-admixture-results-for-natufians.html]Ethio-Helix[/URL] has pointed out: [QUOTE] [i]That's a 3D interactive PCA (Principal Component Analysis) based on autosomal SNPs made by David Wesolowski who authors the Eurogenes genome blog and ancestry project. What's particularly interesting to me about it are the PCA positions of the Natufians and the Neolithic Levantines... With the *former group pulling southwards toward African populations such as North, East & West-Central Africans.* Eurogenes ANE K7 ENF: 77% WHG-UHG: 16% East African: 8% Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer Middle Eastern Herder: 64% Mediterranean Farmer: 30% East African Pastoralist: 7% Eurogenes K12b Southwest Asian: 54% Mediterranean: 38% East African: 8% That pull along with the above ADMIXTURE results (via Gedmatch) of one Natufian seem to contradict what Lazaridis et al. was saying about the Natufians lacking African admixture but I would caution against using modern PCA positions (like those of Bedouins) and, of course, modern ADMIXTURE runs (with modern clusters based on modern genetic diversity) to gauge how "African" or "Eurasian/Out-of-Africa" an ~11,000-14,000 year old population was. I.e. These Natufians are, of course, not "Southwest Asian" + "Mediterranean" but, instead, they're just showing the greatest affinity for these modern clusters. As in, populations probably quite like them to some degree; contributed to the formation of clusters like Southwest Asian & Mediterranean. But, it's still strange that they'd show such an affinity for an African cluster like the East African one.[/i][/QUOTE]It's not strange at all if one remembers that there was greater genetic diversity among human populations before the Holocene than today and such was likely the case as it pertains to African populations. Remember that ANA (Ancestral North African) was originally mistaken to be "Eurasian" as well. [b]LOL[/b] It's only going to be a matter of time that this Natufain/Levantine Neolithic as the only hope left of "Hamitic Hypothesis" fails. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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