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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by meninarmer: I read that article (and more), which is why I'm still asking the question about Europeans being ultra susceptible to skin damage due to UV radiation. [/QUOTE]The comment is non-sequitur as reading the article does not beg the above question. Non Europeans are also susceptible to skin damgage due to UV radiation. [QUOTE] The article fails to address this issue[/QUOTE]No, the scientist do address the issue of the causes of depigmentation in Northern Eurasians. The failure is yours, because you do not engage the evidence presented, but choose to ignore it instead. [QUOTE] it can be explained if the condition is albinism[/QUOTE]Albinism is irrelevant. [QUOTE] There is not, however, a definite relationship between skin pigmentation and the degree of exposure to sunlight.[/QUOTE]Incorrect. Any individual who tans under exposure to sun, and lightens under absense of said exposure proves this direct cause and effect relationship. [QUOTE] There are people with unexpected skin colors for the area in which they live. For example, the Tasmanian Australoids are dark-skinned although they live in a temperate latitude[/QUOTE]This is because they inherit the same genes for dark skin that all other people inherit. They would have sustained their dark color when migrated out of Africa, into Southern Asia, and into tropical Australia, and hence 10's of thousands of years prior to migration into Tasmania. [b]I agree[/b] that it is of interest that mid latitude Tasmanians do not appear to be any lighter than their low latitutude Australian neighbor/forebearers, but this hardly disproves the relationship between latitude and skin color, which can be seen virtually everywhere on earth, including within Africa. [QUOTE]also the pigmentation of American Indians, who are descendants of Asian peoples, is similar across the whole continent of North America.[/QUOTE]Actually Native American pigmentation varies greatly, and reflects both relatively recent migrations from Northern Asia, possibly earlier migrations from the Paleolithic Asia or Oceana, and subsequent migratations from Europe and Africa. [QUOTE] These examples are probably the result of migrations forty or fifty thousand years ago.[/QUOTE]This is also wrong, as North America was uninhabited at this time. [QUOTE]The native peoples of central and western Europe were pushed westwards. [b]Among these were the original Celts (people with blue eyes and very pale skins easily burnt by the sun),[/b][/QUOTE]Not according to Marc, whose nonsense you praise in condescension, yet clearly do not actually believe. According to him the original Celts are 'Afrikan'. You either did not read his drivel [can't blame you really], or are just shining him on. [QUOTE] who eventually populated parts of Scotland and Ireland; their descendants can still be identified in those countries.[/QUOTE]This is correct, but has nothing whatsoever to do with the origins or causes of depigmentation in humans. [QUOTE] Similarly, in the last few hundred years peoples with white skins have migrated to Australia and South Africa[/QUOTE]Similar to what? [QUOTE] - areas of high sunshine to which their skins are not well adapted, and among them sun damage and skin cancer rates are high.[/QUOTE]Of course, so why do you deny the relationship between sunlight and skin color? [QUOTE]or if Europeans did not live in the open but in subterranean environment.[/QUOTE]This is just nonsense. If human beings live in shelters 'houses'/tents/huts or caves, what difference does it make whether the shelter is or isn't underground? [ie - subterranean] [QUOTE] Actually, the above article merely addresses complexion, and nothing else.[/QUOTE]Actually complexion is the issue at hand, and the scientists are addressing it. It's you who are taking care of the -nothing else- part. :rolleyes: [QUOTE]The colder climate addresses the decrease in skin pigments (complexion),[/QUOTE]No it does not. This is a common misnomer. Temperature, per se, is completely unrelated to pigmentation. No offense, but it is clear that you don't understand the studies referenced. I would advise that you re-read the study cited and also read the works of Nina Jablonsky and others who specialize in research into skin color, then you might be able to credibly address the issue. As it stands, you have not. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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