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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Explorer: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Grumman: [b]The Explorer[/b], it's interesting that you would ask: [b]Which is...''[/b] then further on down the post (addressing Winters) proceed to use genetic mutation as a way to prove your argument, or disprove mine[/QUOTE]It is interesting that you find a reply to someone else's post as a reply to you as well. The question is, why? Or put it this way: Is there a reason you feel that the reply addressing Clyde's post, was not the natural one? [QUOTE] , when it is a known fact that many scientists disagree with the mutation explanation simply because it confers no advantage.[/QUOTE]And I ought to care that there are people who disagree with scientific facts, because... [QUOTE] The vast majority of mutations are harmful to the organism, yet evolutionists say it is [i]the[/i] driving force in evolution.[/QUOTE]If the vast majority of mutations are harmful to organisms, then why haven't they all been extinct by now? Does the fact that there are good and bad genetic mutations change the fact that "genetic mutation" does in fact exist? If not, then what's your point; likewise if so, explain. [QUOTE] Since the explanation 'random' is the key force, which amounts to ''according to'' then how to explain where it comes from, already packed with all the information it needs to operate.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you're saying; some alleles are under more selective pressure than others, and so, evolutionary or mutational rate need not be steady across the board in the genome. Are you denying that "random genetic mutations" do in fact occur? [QUOTE] To get to this point wouldn't this also entail millions of mutations in groups of people, and not just a few here and there. How many generations would this entail. It would have to be ''really quick'' considering the length of time humans have been on this planet. At this point we can insert Gould's Punctuated Equilibrium to satisfy some I suppose. But if we do that then one still has to explain the suddenness of change; yet, according to, evolution works very slowly. If it is random why shouldn't those who accept it in its totality offer proof with an explanation how it is that way without leaving the random dangling out there on its own with nothing to support it, except to those who accept it.[/QUOTE]For all that talk, the onus is on you to show that "genetic mutations" don't occur. Period. Can you? You have made a lot of noise, but you have not actually progressed from where you last left off, i.e. when you were asked to elaborate [i]"which is..."[/i] Perhaps, you'll do a lot better in your next effort to reply. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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