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Posted by prmiddleeastern (Member # 14038) on :
 
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/122377292/abstract

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The Egyptian Western Desert lies on an important geographic intersection between Africa and Asia. Genetic diversity of this region has been shaped, in part, by climatic changes in the Late Pleistocene and Holocene epochs marked by oscillating humid and arid periods. We present here a whole genome analysis of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and high-resolution molecular analysis of nonrecombining Y-chromosomal (NRY) gene pools of a demographically small but autochthonous population from the Egyptian Western Desert oasis el-Hayez. Notwithstanding signs of expected genetic drift, we still found clear genetic evidence of a strong Near Eastern input that can be dated into the Neolithic. This is revealed by high frequencies and high internal variability of several mtDNA lineages from haplogroup T. The whole genome sequencing strategy and molecular dating allowed us to detect the accumulation of local mtDNA diversity to 5,138 ± 3,633 YBP. Similarly, theY-chromosome gene pool reveals high frequencies of the Near Eastern J1 and the North African E1b1b1b lineages, both generally known to have expanded within North Africa during the Neolithic. These results provide another piece of evidence of the relatively young population history of North Africa. Am J Phys Anthropol, 2009. © 2009 Wiley-Liss, Inc.
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Posted by e3b1c1 (Member # 16338) on :
 
thanks samuel
intresting how m81 i sfound that east so distant geographicly from his brothers in morroc and algeria
m35* underived is also intresting
e3b1c1
 
Posted by prmiddleeastern (Member # 14038) on :
 
Yet you are realted to your brothers on there. [Wink]
 
Posted by e3b1c1 (Member # 16338) on :
 
its an onour for me samuel realy m81
are warriors all the way just few names carthegenians , moors ,hanibal nd his army
all those guys were m81
i already talled you m81 , m78 and also m34
are all legends
read the paper that andrew lancester wtote
about m35 e1b1b1 there is link in dienekes forum
e3b1c1
 
Posted by Whatbox (Member # 10819) on :
 
Interesting, as much E3a* as E3b* in the Egyptian Western desert. You'd think since its closer to East than is it to West Africa and therefore closer to the origin point of E3b, there'd be more E3b*.

But then, apparently certain descendents of E3b took over, oh, and there's that [E3a] wet-phase Saharan community too.

I would ask if that ancient Saharan community could be the reason for the abundance of the Western E-M81 but then, isn't that hap only 2,000 years old or so? If so, does this indicate EastWard migration of Imazighen or Tamasheq, just as Southward migration occured around the rest of the mediterranean (do to superior living arrangements?).
 
Posted by Sundjata (Member # 13096) on :
 
This was already posted and discussed..

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=001353;p=1#000000
 
Posted by prmiddleeastern (Member # 14038) on :
 
Thanks, Sudjata.
 


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