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The Negroid is a primitive bipedal hominid who consistently averages a full two standard deviations below the mean white intelligence of 100, giving the primitive Negroid an IQ of 70. In the United States, because the American Negro (mulatto would be more accurate) represents an ethno-racially admixed population that is significantly genetically dissimilar from the African Negroid, their IQs are one standard deviation below the mean for white intelligence, being approximately 85; the racially mixed Negro of the Americas has a much higher intelligence than the native sub-Saharan Africoid by about one standard deviation. Thus, Negroid intellectual inferiority has been validated scientifically over and over again throughout the twentieth century, and by such eminent researchers as Shuey, Jensen, Loehlin, Lynn, Eysenck, Rushton and many others. Not only that, but given the strong positive correlation between brain size and general mental ability, the Negro also has a substantially smaller brain and lesser neurons than either Caucasoid or Mongoloid. This means that the Negro is borderline mentally retarded, as demonstrated by the chaotic, war-torn state of his native sub-Saharan Africa and the Negroid lack of worthwhile contributions to human civilization.
In short, all science pronounces the Negro a brute beast of the field. Prove me otherwise, you mentally ill anti-racist fanatics.
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Why would you need proof if you know its right.
Thats is like me asking me to post proof that you can beat and physically handicapped person in a foot race!
Why would you waste time in a bout against 'mentally inferior' people you talk about if that is the truth... Why are you comparing YOURSELF and your PEOPLE to our people if you KNOW you are "bestest"
You might as well come out and post a study saying that people with an IQ of 100 are smarter than people would downs syndrome. But why would a study even need to be made? Why do you have an inferiority complex where you have to compare yourself to the Negro a brute beast of the field?
Prove to me otherwise that you don't have an inferior complex.
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But suppose God is black? What if we go to Heaven and we, all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior, and God is there, and we look up and He is not white? What then is our response?
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quote:Originally posted by astenb: Why would you need proof if you know its right.
Why ask?
How is "intelligence" modeled and how are "Negroids" and "Caucasoids" defined?
quote:Originally posted by Whatbox: How is "intelligence" evaluated?
Is our model IQ score?
If so based on that data our analysis to go by is that American whites, Jews, Chinese, and etcetera have higher IQs than American blacks who in tern have Israel's IQ only in America and these in tern have higher IQs than peoples that are descendents of the most sophisticated of the world's earliest advanced cultures.
So ... blacks aren't of equal intelligence by Intelligence Quotient standards.
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I am just showing it is HE that has the inferiority complex. For such people he just "knows" are so inferior he needs to make threads about us. They form hate groups to come and kill us. They have their own message boards that demonize us but still they want to BE US. Very pitiful.
Most people that are physically apt DO believe that they can perform better physically than a paraplegic.
Why would those people make hate groups against paraplegics? Or create studies showing how they compare physically with paraplegics? Or create repeated threads on how "physically challenged those paraplegics are?" Could it be that they envied them? Could it be deep down they WANT to be paraplegic?
I do believe so, because they actually say they created paraplegics. The also take credit for all great things paraplegics have done. They even say that certain paraplegic genes dont represent paraplegics at all, but instead represent THEM.
They even try to take credit for ancient wheelcharis being dug up right in side the paraplegic homeland.
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Whites and other groups, on average, are more intelligent than blacks but it has nothing to do with brain size and it has been proven that black people IQ in the U.S. on average is just 1-2 points above retardation. Genetics do play a role but I don't know to what extent. There are several reasons blacks don't seem as intelligent.
#1. Blacks are indeed primitive in thought. Their thinking is either stuck on the here and now or the past but never future.
#2. White people are very curious and those who are curious search for knowledge and will know more.
#3. Blacks are not as curious as whites or other groups so they are only interested in their surroundings or the "evidence" that stands before them.
#4. Blacks never started to learn or was taught with the same education as whites and when it began in recent history to integrate school prejudice and racism prevailed and black students thoughts and answers aren't taken seriously because it is already perceived that they are stupid and don't know what they are talking about.
#5. Racism still exist within the education system and black students are taught at lower levels than whites.
#6. The educational system and all of its information are coming from the thoughts and minds of whites and how they perceive what is the best way for a child to learn. Individuals and different groups learn things differently, so it is not only what you are being taught...it's how you are being taught.
#7. Black people are highly emotional and their facts are based on feelings. This is the main reason blacks don't do well in a lot of exams/testing that requires comphrension and critical, analytical skills.
#8. Black people don't come from strong family structures and many of their parents aren't educated and the community they live in are filled with a bunch of "dummies" so in this case, the enviornment plays another huge role. If you around smart people and live with people who speak well with well-structured diction and great enunciation and good vocabulary, the child will absorb that.
#9. White people think that anyone who doesn't see things their way is stupid or can't be taught. Blacks being more stupid than whites has a lot to do with white people arrogance and megalomaniac personalities. Everyone doesn't see things white people way and no one has to believe what white people believe just because white people believe it... even with "so-called" facts.
#10. White people are competitive because they have the confidence already built in them and it has been passed down from generation to generation. Black people are not as competitive as other groups because they had their humanity and self-worth strip from them. Being competitive and 'knowing' you are better wasn't pass down from generation to generation amongst blacks and neither was it given to them or guaranteed.
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quote:Originally posted by unfinished thought.: Robert F. Kennedy:
But suppose God is black? What if we go to Heaven and we, all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior, and God is there, and we look up and He is not white? What then is our response?
God is not black... he is a spirit; he is neither black or white. God thoughts are not mankind's thoughts and God doesn't see people as black or white. God knows that blacks are treated as inferior. God knows there are other groups who are treated as inferior. God knows individuals are treated as inferior. God knows all man thoughts and he is no respector of persons. God will not treat the black man as righteous because they suffer so much. who are black people that they shouldn't suffer. Black people aren't innocent. Most Africans don't even know God and remain in their pagan state.
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quote:In Southern Africa the true negro is not found, and from the Equator to the Cape the continent is mainly populated by the various negroid branches of the great Bantu-speaking stock. The Bantu hordes, emigrating at various periods from the north of the Zambesi, possessed themselves of all the richer lands that were occupied by the aboriginal Hottentots and Bushmen. The Bantus are distinguished for their fine physique, notably in the case of the Zulus. Many of them are handsome, even from the European standpoint, with aqueline features and sometimes a complexion not darker than that of Southern Europeans. They -are a pastoral and agricultural people, breeding cattle in immense quantities, and cultivating cerials, principally mealies (maize) and Kaffir corn (millet). The Bantus are capable of a considerable degree of civilization, and their mental and moral qualities are higher than those of any negro race
Further explanation on the difference between the "Negro proper" and the "Negro-like Negroid"
quote:The Negro heads the list. He presents himself in two vast regions, and, perhaps, in two branches. If we accept the distinction between the Sudanese Negro and the Bantu, we find the Negro proper in vast Sudan, the Negro-like Bantu south of the tenth parallel of north latitude. Of these twin brothers, the Bantu is generally rated above the Sudanese; but not a few authorities think more highly of the latter, and much by historians and scientists is adduced in his favor.
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Prove 2 me that YT didn't come out of my Black African Ancestors who shaped modern civilization, first!
-------------------- "...THE SIBYL [prophecies] was ancienter than all the Heathen Learning; that told real events; amid whose words you have put into the mouths of your [Christian prophets..."-- Roman Theologian, Tertullian (c. 160-c.230) Posts: 56 | From: Norwood, OH | Registered: Sep 2007
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India(81), Iran[Ancient Persia]83, Saudi Arabia 82, Kuwait 82, Mexico 83, Philippines 86, Israel 94, Ireland 95, Guatemala 78, South East Asian nations on average 86, Spain 87, Greece 95.
Given the 13-15% Euro input into the AA gene pool their average IQ score--based on your absurd nativism--should be about 73. Yet it is 85--proving that environemnet trumps genetics.
In any case though the score of 70 assigned to Africans is just stupidly bogua. 70 represents borderline "mental retardation"--requiring assistance in most day-to-day living. Obviously a score of 70 assigned to Africans is meant to provoke a long LOL.
Try to get James Flynn's "What is Intelligence?" then try to read it.
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The idea of blacks is being less competitive than whites is just nonsense.
Look at how blacks consistently demolish whites in competitive sports: athletics, women's tennis[the part time Williams sister just demolish their opponents single-handedly whenever they decide to really compete--which explains their lack of popularity with whites worldwide]
Long distance running requires long training periods and lots of race strategy and planning. Blacks from East Africa routinely rout all oppostion--whether from the European or Asian camps. Now isn't that proof of an ability to compete?
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^ Why would anyone even respond to a thread as idiotic as this??! It's bad enough he denies the native African nature of Egypt, but then he brings up his B.S.?!
Before he talk about intelligence differences how about he define what a "caucasoid" is as well as a "negroid"??
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Why would anyone even respond to a thread as idiotic as this??!
You are either incredibly stupid or extremely arrogant. You go back and forth with trolls all the time in here yet you condescendingly ridicule those that reply to troll threads.
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The idea of blacks is being less competitive than whites is just nonsense.
Look at how blacks consistently demolish whites in competitive sports: athletics, women's tennis[the part time Williams sister just demolish their opponents single-handedly whenever they decide to really compete--which explains their lack of popularity with whites worldwide]
Long distance running requires long training periods and lots of race strategy and planning. Blacks from East Africa routinely rout all oppostion--whether from the European or Asian camps. Now isn't that proof of an ability to compete?
I don't know if this suppose to be sarcasm; whatever the case, blacks are not as competitive as whites or other groups.
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Bettyboo Quote; Whites and other groups, on average, are more intelligent than blacks but it has nothing to do with brain size and it has been proven that black people IQ in the U.S. on average is just 1-2 points above retardation. Genetics do play a role but I don't know to what extent. There are several reasons blacks don't seem as intelligent.
Bettyboo – I see that you have attempted to give a thoughtful well-reasoned answer to the question – I applaud you for that. But unfortunately you were on a fools errand. There is NO thoughtful well reasoned answer to the question; because the question itself is bogus – a lie. The so-called I.Q. test is NOT a test of “Intelligence”. Rather, it is a measure of how well an individual has “RETAINED” and is able to use information that was PREVIOUSLY “TAUGHT”. Needless to say, an individual who was NOT taught this material, or was taught the material INCOMPETENTLY, will do very poorly.
Typical I. Q. questions:
1. Which of these letters is a vowel?
G
E
B
C
1. Two ducks and two dogs have a total of fourteen legs.
True False
2. A pie can be cut into more than seven pieces by making four diameter cuts.
True False
3. Two of the following numbers add up to thirteen.
1, 6, 3, 5, 11
True False
Which is exactly the situation many Black and Hispanic children find themselves in. If you were to turn the situation around, and test Black and White children in a normal Black environment, is there any doubt that the White child would fail miserably? To put it in perspective; imagine a White child with high I.Q. left to survive in the African bush or even an urban ghetto; it would be a miracle if he survived the first day – yet the Black child would do just fine. So who is the stupid one? The ONLY way that these test could be of any legitimate value, is when they are testing children of “SIMILAR” backgrounds and experiences.
From a Baltimore study:
With a mean IQ of 76, inner-city blacks fall about 0.6 SD below the African American average nationally. More than a third have death-penalty immunity on grounds of mental retardation. The inner-city white mean of 86 is nearly a full standard deviation below the national white average. By this measure, whites fared worse than blacks.
So you see it is not that Blacks are less intelligent, it is that ANYONE born to a mother who does not practice healthy prenatal habits, and into an unhealthy physical and mental environment - such as a ghetto, has little chance to grow a healthy and full-functioning mind.
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As an addendum: In the Baltimore study - it was found that first generation Black children, whose families had moved to the Baltimore Suburbs, showed little difference in test scores with their White counterparts.
It is expected; that over generations, as the residue of their past lives disappears, (they often bring their ghetto thinking and lifestyles with them), then the innately Superior Black mind, which created civilization, will go into full gear.
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As addendum #2: In urban areas where Black parents have turned to "Private Black Schools" to avoid the "White" trap of inferior education for their children.
The results are not better, they are spectacular: Almost ALL Black children score in the top 10% with a few stragglers in only the top 20%. This fantastic result from children who still have to contend with the normally hostile environment of racist America. This is proof positive of my assertion of the innately Superior Black mind.
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The idea of blacks is being less competitive than whites is just nonsense.
Look at how blacks consistently demolish whites in competitive sports: athletics, women's tennis[the part time Williams sister just demolish their opponents single-handedly whenever they decide to really compete--which explains their lack of popularity with whites worldwide]
Long distance running requires long training periods and lots of race strategy and planning. Blacks from East Africa routinely rout all oppostion--whether from the European or Asian camps. Now isn't that proof of an ability to compete?
I notice a trend in the interest of blacks athletically that mirrors our interests academically.
While black Americans are underrepresented for in Major League Baseball, in sports that are more constant and free flow we dominate (Basketball in Football) with Mixed Martial Arts being the middle ground.
Aside from athletics we excell primarily in music and dance.
Aside from athletics and entertainment (where we seem to be focused for whatever reason(s)), in school i notice we for the most part are more interested in science, art, and math than in history or English.
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quote:In Southern Africa the true negro is not found, and from the Equator to the Cape the continent is mainly populated by the various negroid branches of the great Bantu-speaking stock. The Bantu hordes, emigrating at various periods from the north of the Zambesi, possessed themselves of all the richer lands that were occupied by the aboriginal Hottentots and Bushmen. The Bantus are distinguished for their fine physique, notably in the case of the Zulus. Many of them are handsome, even from the European standpoint, with aqueline features and sometimes a complexion not darker than that of Southern Europeans. They -are a pastoral and agricultural people, breeding cattle in immense quantities, and cultivating cerials, principally mealies (maize) and Kaffir corn (millet). The Bantus are capable of a considerable degree of civilization, and their mental and moral qualities are higher than those of any negro race
Further explanation on the difference between the "Negro proper" and the "Negro-like Negroid"
quote:The Negro heads the list. He presents himself in two vast regions, and, perhaps, in two branches. If we accept the distinction between the Sudanese Negro and the Bantu, we find the Negro proper in vast Sudan, the Negro-like Bantu south of the tenth parallel of north latitude. Of these twin brothers, the Bantu is generally rated above the Sudanese; but not a few authorities think more highly of the latter, and much by historians and scientists is adduced in his favor.
The idea of blacks is being less competitive than whites is just nonsense.
Look at how blacks consistently demolish whites in competitive sports: athletics, women's tennis[the part time Williams sister just demolish their opponents single-handedly whenever they decide to really compete--which explains their lack of popularity with whites worldwide]
Long distance running requires long training periods and lots of race strategy and planning. Blacks from East Africa routinely rout all oppostion--whether from the European or Asian camps. Now isn't that proof of an ability to compete?
You know I always find it quite hilarious that blacks almost never have an issue with the assertion that they may have a genetic predisposition to excel in the arts and athletics (when Jon Entine published his book "Taboo:Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It" you actually had many "black leaders" singing his praises), yet when the view is expressed that they may be lacking when it comes to other intellectual pursuits, you are immediately labelled as being a racist. It seems today political correctness has run so a muck that merely stating what one can see with his own eyes has become a taboo.
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quote:Aside from athletics and entertainment (where we seem to be focused for whatever reason(s)), in school i notice we for the most part are more interested in science, art, and math than in history or English.
Really? I find that quite odd, especially since its practically common knowledge that afro americans are grossly underrepresented in math and science. I attend an institute of technology; so math, science and engineering are basically our main focus. However there are also departments specializing in humanities and business. Let me tell you, at my school there are very few blacks involved in math and science based professions - they mostly do business or humanities. The math, science and engineering departments are dominated mostly by whites and asians. I can't even think of a single black Putnam Fellow, much less recipient of the National Medals of Science or Technology. Out of the handful of black Nobel Prize laureates, only one received it in a science (Sir Arthur Lewis for Economics). Compare that to people of jewish ancestry who account for over 23% of all prizes awarded. And unlike afro americans, many jewish americans can actually name a relative who died in the Holocaust (most blacks can't name a single ancestor who was enslaved) rendering the entire excuse that this may be due to "racism" moot. So as far as that statement about blacks being interested in science and math, I think you may want to revise that.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Bettyboo Quote; Whites and other groups, on average, are more intelligent than blacks but it has nothing to do with brain size and it has been proven that black people IQ in the U.S. on average is just 1-2 points above retardation. Genetics do play a role but I don't know to what extent. There are several reasons blacks don't seem as intelligent.
Bettyboo – I see that you have attempted to give a thoughtful well-reasoned answer to the question – I applaud you for that. But unfortunately you were on a fools errand. There is NO thoughtful well reasoned answer to the question; because the question itself is bogus – a lie. The so-called I.Q. test is NOT a test of “Intelligence”. Rather, it is a measure of how well an individual has “RETAINED” and is able to use information that was PREVIOUSLY “TAUGHT”. Needless to say, an individual who was NOT taught this material, or was taught the material INCOMPETENTLY, will do very poorly.
Typical I. Q. questions:
1. Which of these letters is a vowel?
G
E
B
C
1. Two ducks and two dogs have a total of fourteen legs.
True False
2. A pie can be cut into more than seven pieces by making four diameter cuts.
True False
3. Two of the following numbers add up to thirteen.
1, 6, 3, 5, 11
True False
Which is exactly the situation many Black and Hispanic children find themselves in. If you were to turn the situation around, and test Black and White children in a normal Black environment, is there any doubt that the White child would fail miserably? To put it in perspective; imagine a White child with high I.Q. left to survive in the African bush or even an urban ghetto; it would be a miracle if he survived the first day – yet the Black child would do just fine. So who is the stupid one? The ONLY way that these test could be of any legitimate value, is when they are testing children of “SIMILAR” backgrounds and experiences.
From a Baltimore study:
With a mean IQ of 76, inner-city blacks fall about 0.6 SD below the African American average nationally. More than a third have death-penalty immunity on grounds of mental retardation. The inner-city white mean of 86 is nearly a full standard deviation below the national white average. By this measure, whites fared worse than blacks.
So you see it is not that Blacks are less intelligent, it is that ANYONE born to a mother who does not practice healthy prenatal habits, and into an unhealthy physical and mental environment - such as a ghetto, has little chance to grow a healthy and full-functioning mind.
This reality is why intelligent people no longer take I.Q. tests seriously.
It still measures intelligence. Intelligence is about what you know so whether it is a test that is based on the amount an individual 'RETAIN' and 'Wisdom' how well you apply knowledge; it is not bogus just like test scores in mathematics, science, reading & comprehension, vocabulary and grammar, geography, and history is not bogus. I didn't give all the complete answers and we will never have that, but I did laid out damn good reasons why blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites and other groups.
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quote:whatever the case, blacks are not as competitive as whites or other groups.
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But I just gave you a couple of cases.
No you haven't. I can stretch your analysis and say that blacks aren't as competitive because they don't compete in other fields such as javelin, equestrian, sailing, archery, skiing, etc.. The william sister is a bad choice because they often lose and winning and losing doesn't define 'competition.' What about all the times the williams sisters lost? What about all the sports black people don't do well in and not involve in? What about all the world records that blacks don't hold or never broken? White people get me sick of falling onto sports to 'prove' how competitive blacks are. I can make the same argument about whites who win and dominate the majority of sports even in athletics.
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The idea of blacks is being less competitive than whites is just nonsense.
Look at how blacks consistently demolish whites in competitive sports: athletics, women's tennis[the part time Williams sister just demolish their opponents single-handedly whenever they decide to really compete--which explains their lack of popularity with whites worldwide]
Long distance running requires long training periods and lots of race strategy and planning. Blacks from East Africa routinely rout all oppostion--whether from the European or Asian camps. Now isn't that proof of an ability to compete?
Aside from athletics we excell primarily in music and dance.
That is because the part of the brain that function when you have to think is shut off. Music and dance take feelings and emotions so that is why black people are so good at it. It requires little or no thinking.
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The idea of blacks is being less competitive than whites is just nonsense.
Look at how blacks consistently demolish whites in competitive sports: athletics, women's tennis[the part time Williams sister just demolish their opponents single-handedly whenever they decide to really compete--which explains their lack of popularity with whites worldwide]
Long distance running requires long training periods and lots of race strategy and planning. Blacks from East Africa routinely rout all oppostion--whether from the European or Asian camps. Now isn't that proof of an ability to compete?
You know I always find it quite hilarious that blacks almost never have an issue with the assertion that they may have a genetic predisposition to excel in the arts and athletics (when Jon Entine published his book "Taboo:Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It" you actually had many "black leaders" singing his praises), yet when the view is expressed that they may be lacking when it comes to other intellectual pursuits, you are immediately labelled as being a racist. It seems today political correctness has run so a muck that merely stating what one can see with his own eyes has become a taboo.
I agree with you except when you said blacks don't have an issue when said they are 'predisposed' to excel at sports. Majority of blacks have an issue with that because it is not true and unfounded. If blacks are predisposed to excel at sports then white people are predisposed thrice since they excel at the majority of sports. The notion that blacks are predisposed to excel at sports is very racists and carefully planned. It is an attempt to further 'prove' that intelligence is solely based on genetics. If athletism can be "based" on genetics, which isn't true at all, then why can't intelligence. Their agenda is if we can give black some credit that they are genetically gifted at something then it will further prove that people are genetically gifted at intelligence. This is so flawed because they refuse to look at the predisposed gift whites have at swimming and they dominate that field. Whites dominate long distance agaisnt blacks from west, central, and southern africa but east africans dominate long distance amongst white. That is never looked at. What about ice skating, gymnastics, rhythmic gynastics all these sports require great athletic abilities but no one say that these white people are predisposed to excel at those sports. The few and I mean very few black gymnast we had never dominated the field the white people always did, but you never heard anyone say it is because they are 'predisposed' to excel at sports. The very few black ice skaters that we had never, ever dominated that sport but you never heard anyone say whites dominate it because they are genetically 'predisposed' to excel at that sport. Those two sports take great and extreme athletic abilities. Take at look at extreme sports with the skate boarding, motor/dirt bike, snowboarding, rollerblading, and other X games sports. That takes a lot of athleticism but no one never say that those white people are predisposed to excel at those sports. Take a look at the winter olympics and all those races that goes on with the ice blades but no one says that whites are predisposed to dominate and excel at those sports. Blacks don't even make up a tenth of sports and they are not dominating everything in the field they supposedly dominate at. Why didn't the Nigerians beat the Russians and Polish in the relay during the past olympics. Why did Russia out run the other black teams in the 400 meter relay during the past olympics. Only the U.S. beat them, but Russia demolish all the other teams. Don't forget that Russia hold the world record and for a very long time they were unbeaten. The blacks couldn't even stop them.
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Bettyboo – It has been my experience, that people who cling to the concept of an I.Q. test; are themselves intellectually challenged people, who do so out of a pathetic need to feel superior, and/or out of an equally pathetic racist agenda.
If you did not understand the concept of Intelligence; first of all, you really shouldn’t have been running your mouth about it. But failing that, you really should at least, have looked it up. (Not bothering to look-up the true meaning of something that you are bloviating on, shows a lack of Intelligence).
The source of the definitions below is indicated. You will notice that neither source mentions anything about “what you know” as a worthwhile measure of Intelligence. But your lack of it is obvious, because one of the true traits of Intelligence, is the ability to reason. And with a little reason, thought, or “Intelligence” you would have realized that some of the most brilliant people in history: had very little formal education.
Wiki
Intelligence is an umbrella term used to describe a property of the mind that encompasses many related abilities, such as the capacities to reason, to plan, to solve problems, to think abstractly, to comprehend ideas, to use language, and to learn. There are several ways to define intelligence.
In some cases, intelligence may include traits such as creativity, personality, character, knowledge, or wisdom. However, most psychologists prefer not to include these traits in the definition of intelligence.
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2009.
(1): the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations : reason ; also : the skilled use of reason (2): the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria.Posts: 22721 | Registered: Oct 2005
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The idea of blacks is being less competitive than whites is just nonsense.
Look at how blacks consistently demolish whites in competitive sports: athletics, women's tennis[the part time Williams sister just demolish their opponents single-handedly whenever they decide to really compete--which explains their lack of popularity with whites worldwide]
Long distance running requires long training periods and lots of race strategy and planning. Blacks from East Africa routinely rout all oppostion--whether from the European or Asian camps. Now isn't that proof of an ability to compete?
You know I always find it quite hilarious that blacks almost never have an issue with the assertion that they may have a genetic predisposition to excel in the arts and athletics (when Jon Entine published his book "Taboo:Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We're Afraid to Talk About It" you actually had many "black leaders" singing his praises), yet when the view is expressed that they may be lacking when it comes to other intellectual pursuits, you are immediately labelled as being a racist. It seems today political correctness has run so a muck that merely stating what one can see with his own eyes has become a taboo.
I agree with you except when you said blacks don't have an issue when said they are 'predisposed' to excel at sports. Majority of blacks have an issue with that because it is not true and unfounded. If blacks are predisposed to excel at sports then white people are predisposed thrice since they excel at the majority of sports. The notion that blacks are predisposed to excel at sports is very racists and carefully planned. It is an attempt to further 'prove' that intelligence is solely based on genetics. If athletism can be "based" on genetics, which isn't true at all, then why can't intelligence. Their agenda is if we can give black some credit that they are genetically gifted at something then it will further prove that people are genetically gifted at intelligence. This is so flawed because they refuse to look at the predisposed gift whites have at swimming and they dominate that field. Whites dominate long distance agaisnt blacks from west, central, and southern africa but east africans dominate long distance amongst white. That is never looked at. What about ice skating, gymnastics, rhythmic gynastics all these sports require great athletic abilities but no one say that these white people are predisposed to excel at those sports. The few and I mean very few black gymnast we had never dominated the field the white people always did, but you never heard anyone say it is because they are 'predisposed' to excel at sports. The very few black ice skaters that we had never, ever dominated that sport but you never heard anyone say whites dominate it because they are genetically 'predisposed' to excel at that sport. Those two sports take great and extreme athletic abilities. Take at look at extreme sports with the skate boarding, motor/dirt bike, snowboarding, rollerblading, and other X games sports. That takes a lot of athleticism but no one never say that those white people are predisposed to excel at those sports. Take a look at the winter olympics and all those races that goes on with the ice blades but no one says that whites are predisposed to dominate and excel at those sports. Blacks don't even make up a tenth of sports and they are not dominating everything in the field they supposedly dominate at. Why didn't the Nigerians beat the Russians and Polish in the relay during the past olympics. Why did Russia out run the other black teams in the 400 meter relay during the past olympics. Only the U.S. beat them, but Russia demolish all the other teams. Don't forget that Russia hold the world record and for a very long time they were unbeaten. The blacks couldn't even stop them.
Point Taken.
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India(81), Iran[Ancient Persia]83, Saudi Arabia 82, Kuwait 82, Mexico 83, Philippines 86, Israel 94, Ireland 95, Guatemala 78, South East Asian nations on average 86, Spain 87, Greece 95.
Given the 13-15% Euro input into the AA gene pool their average IQ score--based on your absurd nativism--should be about 73. Yet it is 85--proving that environemnet trumps genetics.
In any case though the score of 70 assigned to Africans is just stupidly bogua. 70 represents borderline "mental retardation"--requiring assistance in most day-to-day living. Obviously a score of 70 assigned to Africans is meant to provoke a long LOL.
Try to get James Flynn's "What is Intelligence?" then try to read it.
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Guys.. Let it go. All that you need to do is ask them why racists have such low IQs, post links to our former discussions, and call it a day. Focusing on sports isn't exactly smart either, as that's what they want you to do. Be smart if you're going to engage, albeit that the smartest thing to do would be not to engage. Again, like Dr. Clarke once stated, "I only debate my equals. All others I teach."
The guy above me, including the thread starter and even Betty Boo, are no where near most of you in terms of objective reasoning. Have some pride and stop stooping to these guys' levels; they are fringe weirdos at best. We are better than them and it isn't any more complex than that.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!! First of all, I am by no means a "racist," I just simply go by logic and facts. The reality is you simply cannot believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution and at the same time believe that all modern day humans are 100% genetically identical, and as such are predisposed to the same mental and artistic faculties. Why is it that sickle-cell anemia is found mostly among people of recent Sub-Saharan ancestry, while cystic fibrosis is found predominantly amongst Europeans? Once you get your mind around that question you will really come to realize that the idea of groups of people differing in terms of cognitive abilities really isn't all that far-fetched.
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quote:Originally posted by fawal: at my school there are very few blacks involved in math and science based professions - they mostly do business or humanities. So as far as that statement about blacks being interested in science and math, I think you may want to revise that.
or ... not. lol
You should revise your brain. I've also noticed that most of "us" will head for the degrees in business and humanities. These are the "easy" degrees. They are where the "average" people go or the people with little or no real interest in academics -- i think made clear that most of our interest lies in the entertainment and athletic spheres.
And maybe my observation in that regard - math, science, & art over history and grammar - is skewed. I could be biased as these are my own feelings. Everyone's not interested in math, science or art.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: Guys.. Let it go. All that you need to do is ask them why racists have such low IQs, post links to our former discussions, and call it a day. Focusing on sports isn't exactly smart either, as that's what they want you to do. Be smart if you're going to engage, albeit that the smartest thing to do would be not to engage. Again, like Dr. Clarke once stated, "I only debate my equals. All others I teach."
The guy above me, including the thread starter and even Betty Boo, are no where near most of you in terms of objective reasoning. Have some pride and stop stooping to these guys' levels; they are fringe weirdos at best. We are better than them and it isn't any more complex than that.
A so-called IQ score gap also exists between whites and Asians, but it is never mentioned much. In fact, depending on which group is studied (East Asians live Koreans for example) and the type of test given, the Asian-white gap is almost as big as the much ballyhooed black-white gap (Thernstrom 2002).
But of course, assorted racists don't want too much public play of these patterns. It is much easier to divert attention by pointing the finger at blacks. Indeed, it appears many whites are uneasy about the Asian IQ advantage, and are fleeing schools here there are heavy Asian concentrations. Below is a news article describing fleeing whites:
White flight as higher performing Asians muscle in..
According to the assorted racial theorists like Rushton, brain size calculations put the Mongoloids on top of the rankings. Seems that many white people can't stand the heat..
The New White Flight Wall Street Journal November 19, 2005
In Silicon Valley, two high schools with outstanding academic reputations are losing white students as Asian students move in. Why?
By SUEIN HWANG
CUPERTINO, Calif. -- By most measures, Monta Vista High here and Lynbrook High, in nearby San Jose, are among the nation's top public high schools. Both boast stellar test scores, an array of advanced-placement classes and a track record of sending graduates from the affluent suburbs of Silicon Valley to prestigious colleges.
But locally, they're also known for something else: white flight. Over the past 10 years, the proportion of white students at Lynbrook has fallen by nearly half, to 25% of the student body. At Monta Vista, white students make up less than one-third of the population, down from 45% -- this in a town that's half white. Some white Cupertino parents are instead sending their children to private schools or moving them to other, whiter public schools. More commonly, young white families in Silicon Valley say they are avoiding Cupertino altogether.
White students are far outnumbered by Asians at Monta Vista High School in Cupertino, Calif. Whites aren't quitting the schools because the schools are failing academically. Quite the contrary: Many white parents say they're leaving because the schools are too academically driven and too narrowly invested in subjects such as math and science at the expense of liberal arts and extracurriculars like sports and other personal interests.
The two schools, put another way that parents rarely articulate so bluntly, are too Asian.
Cathy Gatley, co-president of Monta Vista High School's parent-teacher association, recently dissuaded a family with a young child from moving to Cupertino because there are so few young white kids left in the public schools. "This may not sound good," she confides, "but their child may be the only Caucasian kid in the class." All of Ms. Gatley's four children have attended or are currently attending Monta Vista. One son, Andrew, 17 years old, took the high-school exit exam last summer and left the school to avoid the academic pressure. He is currently working in a pet-supply store. Ms. Gatley, who is white, says she probably wouldn't have moved to Cupertino if she had anticipated how much it would change.
In the 1960s, the term "white flight" emerged to describe the rapid exodus of whites from big cities into the suburbs, a process that often resulted in the economic degradation of the remaining community. Back then, the phenomenon was mostly believed to be sparked by the growth in the population of African-Americans, and to a lesser degree Hispanics, in some major cities.
But this modern incarnation is different. Across the country, Asian-Americans have by and large been successful and accepted into middle- and upper-class communities. Silicon Valley has kept Cupertino's economy stable, and the town is almost indistinguishable from many of the suburbs around it. The shrinking number of white students hasn't hurt the academic standards of Cupertino's schools -- in fact the opposite is true.
This time the effect is more subtle: Some Asians believe that the resulting lack of diversity creates an atmosphere that is too sheltering for their children, leaving then unprepared for life in a country that is only 4% Asian overall. Moreover, many Asians share some of their white counterpart's concerns. Both groups finger newer Asian immigrants for the schools' intense competitiveness.
Some whites fear that by avoiding schools with large Asian populations parents are short-changing their own children, giving them the idea that they can't compete with Asian kids. "My parents never let me think that because I'm Caucasian, I'm not going to succeed," says Jessie Hogin, a white Monta Vista graduate.
The white exodus clearly involves race-based presumptions, not all of which are positive. One example: Asian parents are too competitive. That sounds like racism to many of Cupertino's Asian residents, who resent the fact that their growing numbers and success are causing many white families to boycott the town altogether.
"It's a stereotype of Asian parents," says Pei-Pei Yow, a Hewlett-Packard Co. manager and Chinese-American community leader who sent two kids to Monta Vista. It's like other familiar biases, she says: "You can't say everybody from the South is a redneck."
Jane Doherty, a retirement-community administrator, chose to send her two boys elsewhere. When her family moved to Cupertino from Indiana over a decade ago, Ms. Doherty says her top priority was moving into a good public-school district. She paid no heed to a real-estate agent who told her of the town's burgeoning Asian population.
She says she began to reconsider after her elder son, Matthew, entered Kennedy, the middle school that feeds Monta Vista. As he played soccer, Ms. Doherty watched a line of cars across the street deposit Asian kids for after-school study. She also attended a Monta Vista parents' night and came away worrying about the school's focus on test scores and the big-name colleges its graduates attend.
"My sense is that at Monta Vista you're competing against the child beside you," she says. Ms. Doherty says she believes the issue stems more from recent immigrants than Asians as a whole. "Obviously, the concentration of Asian students is really high, and it does flavor the school," she says.
When Matthew, now a student at Notre Dame, finished middle school eight years ago, Ms. Doherty decided to send him to Bellarmine College Preparatory, a Jesuit school that she says has a culture that "values the whole child." It's also 55% white and 24% Asian. Her younger son, Kevin, followed suit.
Kevin Doherty, 17, says he's happy his mother made the switch. Many of his old friends at Kennedy aren't happy at Monta Vista, he says. "Kids at Bellarmine have a lot of pressure to do well, too, but they want to learn and do something they want to do."
While California has seen the most pronounced cases of suburban segregation, some of the developments in Cupertino are also starting to surface in other parts of the U.S. At Thomas S. Wootton High School in Rockville, Md., known flippantly to some locals as "Won Ton," roughly 35% of students are of Asian descent. People who don't know the school tend to make assumptions about its academics, says Principal Michael Doran. "Certain stereotypes come to mind -- 'those people are good at math,' " he says.
In Tenafly, N.J., a well-to-do bedroom community near New York, the local high school says it expects Asian students to make up about 36% of its total in the next five years, compared with 27% today. The district still attracts families of all backgrounds, but Asians are particularly intent that their kids work hard and excel, says Anat Eisenberg, a local Coldwell Banker real-estate agent. "Everybody is caught into this process of driving their kids." Lawrence Mayer, Tenafly High's vice principal, says he's never heard such concerns.
Perched on the western end of the Santa Clara valley, Cupertino was for many years a primarily rural area known for its many fruit orchards. The beginnings of the tech industry brought suburbanization, and Cupertino then became a very white, quintessentially middle-class town of mostly modest ranch homes, populated by engineers and their families. Apple Computer Inc. planted its headquarters there.
As the high-tech industry prospered, so did Cupertino. Today, the orchards are a memory, replaced by numerous shopping malls and subdivisions that are home to Silicon Valley's prosperous upper-middle class. While the architecture in Cupertino is largely the same as in neighboring communities, the town of about 50,000 people now boasts Indian restaurants, tutoring centers and Asian grocers. Parents say Cupertino's top schools have become more academically intense over the past 10 years. Asian immigrants have surged into the town, granting it a reputation -- particularly among recent Chinese and South Asian immigrants -- as a Bay Area locale of choice. Cupertino is now 41% Asian, up from 24% in 1998.
Some students struggle in Cupertino's high schools who might not elsewhere. Monta Vista's Academic Performance Index, which compares the academic performance of California's schools, reached an all-time high of 924 out of 1,000 this year, making it one of the highest-scoring high schools in Northern California. Grades are so high that a 'B' average puts a student in the bottom third of a class.
"We have great students, which has a lot of upsides," says April Scott, Monta Vista's principal. "The downside is what the kids with a 3.0 GPA think of themselves."
Ms. Scott and her counterpart at Lynbrook know what's said about their schools being too competitive and dominated by Asians. "It's easy to buy into those kinds of comments because they're loaded and powerful," says Ms. Scott, who adds that they paint an inaccurate picture of Monta Vista. Ms. Scott says many athletic programs are thriving and points to the school's many extracurricular activities. She also points out that white students represented 20% of the school's 29 National Merit Semifinalists this year.
Judy Hogin, Jessie's mother and a Cupertino real-estate agent, believes the school was good for her daughter, who is now a freshman at the University of California at San Diego. "I know it's frustrating to some people who have moved away," says Ms. Hogin, who is white. Jessie, she says, "rose to the challenge."
On a recent autumn day at Lynbrook, crowds of students spilled out of classrooms for midmorning break. Against a sea of Asian faces, the few white students were easy to pick out. One boy sat on a wall, his lighter hair and skin making him stand out from dozens of others around him. In another corner, four white male students lounged at a picnic table.
At Cupertino's top schools, administrators, parents and students say white students end up in the stereotyped role often applied to other minority groups: the underachievers. In one 9th-grade algebra class, Lynbrook's lowest-level math class, the students are an eclectic mix of whites, Asians and other racial and ethnic groups.
"Take a good look," whispered Steve Rowley, superintendent of the Fremont Union High School District, which covers the city of Cupertino as well as portions of other neighboring cities. "This doesn't look like the other classes we're going to." On the second floor, in advanced-placement chemistry, only a couple of the 32 students are white and the rest are Asian. Some white parents, and even some students, say they suspect teachers don't take white kids as seriously as Asians. "Many of my Asian friends were convinced that if you were Asian, you had to confirm you were smart. If you were white, you had to prove it," says Arar Han, a Monta Vista graduate who recently co-edited "Asian American X," a book of coming-of-age essays by young Asian-Americans.
Ms. Gatley, the Monta Vista PTA president, is more blunt: "White kids are thought of as the dumb kids," she says. Cupertino's administrators and faculty, the majority of whom are white, adamantly say there's no discrimination against whites. The administrators say students of all races get along well. In fact, there's little evidence of any overt racial tension between students or between their parents.
Mr. Rowley, the school superintendent, however, concedes that a perception exists that's sometimes called "the white-boy syndrome." He describes it as: "Kids who are white feel themselves a distinct minority against a majority culture." Mr. Rowley, who is white, enrolled his only son, Eddie, at Lynbrook. When Eddie started freshman geometry, the boy was frustrated to learn that many of the Asian students in his class had already taken the course in summer school, Mr. Rowley recalls. That gave them a big leg up.
To many of Cupertino's Asians, some of the assumptions made by white parents -- that Asians are excessively competitive and single-minded -- play into stereotypes. Top schools in nearby, whiter Palo Alto, which also have very high test scores, also feature heavy course loads, long hours of homework and overly stressed students, says Denise Pope, director of Stressed Out Students, a Stanford University program that has worked with schools in both Palo Alto and Cupertino. But whites don't seem to be avoiding those institutions, or making the same negative generalizations, Asian families note, suggesting that it's not academic competition that makes white parents uncomfortable but academic competition with Asian-Americans.
Some of Cupertino's Asian residents say they don't blame white families for leaving. After all, many of the town's Asians are fretting about the same issues. While acknowledging that the term Asian embraces a wide diversity of countries, cultures and languages, they say there's some truth to the criticisms levied against new immigrant parents, particularly those from countries such as China and India, who often put a lot of academic pressure on their children.
Some parents and students say these various forces are creating an unhealthy cultural isolation in the schools. Monta Vista graduate Mark Seto says he wouldn't send his kids to his alma mater. "It was a sheltered little world that didn't bear a whole lot of resemblance to what the rest of the country is like," says Mr. Seto, a Chinese-American who recently graduated from Yale University. As a result, he says, "college wasn't an academic adjustment. It was a cultural adjustment." Hung Wei, a Chinese-American living in Cupertino, has become an active campaigner in the community, encouraging Asian parents to be more aware of their children's emotional development. Ms. Wei, who is co-president of Monta Vista's PTA with Ms. Gatley, says her activism stems from the suicide of her daughter, Diana. Ms. Wei says life in Cupertino and at Monta Vista didn't prepare the young woman for life at New York University. Diana moved there in 2004 and jumped to her death from a Manhattan building two months later.
"We emphasize academics so much and protect our kids, I feel there's something lacking in our education," Ms. Wei says. Cupertino schools are trying to address some of these issues. Monta Vista recently completed a series of seminars focused on such issues as helping parents communicate better with their kids, and Lynbrook last year revised its homework guidelines with the goal of eliminating excessive and unproductive assignments.
The moves haven't stemmed the flow of whites out of the schools. Four years ago, Lynn Rosener, a software consultant, transferred her elder son from Monta Vista to Homestead High, a Cupertino school with slightly lower test scores. At the new school, the white student body is declining at a slower rate than at Monta Vista and currently stands at 52% of the total. Friday-night football is a tradition, with big half-time shows and usually 1,000 people packing the stands. The school offers boys' volleyball, a sport at which Ms. Rosener's son was particularly talented. Monta Vista doesn't.
"It does help to have a lower Asian population," says Homestead PTA President Mary Anne Norling. "I don't think our parents are as uptight as if my kids went to Monta Vista."
Write to Suein Hwang at suein.hwang@wsj.com
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"In the 19th century measurements of cranial capacity by Morton and others supported a “Caucasoid > Mongoloid > Negroid” hierarchy of intelligence. This continued through most of the 20th century but was challenged by a nonhierarchical view originating with Boas. Beginning in the 1980s Rushton correlated cranial and IQ measurements and presented a hierarchy with “Mongoloids” at the top."
--Leonard Lieberman. How “Caucasoids” Got Such Big Crania and Why They Shrank: From Morton to Rushton. Current Anthropology Volume 42, Number 1, February 2001
Below is a snip from another news article describing how white people are using white affirmative action quotas to freeze Asians out in various venues. It seems some people should raise their game before they go around pointing fingers.
By Michael Alison Chandler Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, July 7, 2008; Page A01
quote: -------------- Jenny Tsai, a recent Harvard University graduate, wrote her thesis about what she perceived as a growing sentiment that "too many Asians" were at top magnet schools. She attended the selective Hunter College High School in New York, where she sensed "a certain level of anxiety" as the portion of Asian American students in the entering class grew from less than a third to more than half between 1997 and 2003. Tsai said some students felt a need to justify their admission or their contributions.
"I don't think there was ever a question of who really belonged there until the numbers shifted," she said.
Admissions offices at top private colleges are becoming the front line for debates about equal access as the supply of high-caliber Asian American applicants swells and colleges try to maintain student diversity. Some Asian Americans contend that they face informal quotas and are forced to meet higher standards, similar to hurdles that Jewish Americans faced in the first part of the 20th century... "
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According to Tsai's research, which included interviews and surveys, the much touted magnet schools were set up for, and catered mostly to whites. It is only when Asians started beating whites out of admission slots that they became a "problem": Quote:
"The perception that there are too many Asians exists because the whites do not believe that Asians should be the majority of students in a magnet school, when admission to the school is supposed to be for the whites." pg 61
and when it came down to some things such as choosing school paper editors there seemed to be some "informal affirmative action" in play:
"The Jewish male got picked because he was white, and his whiteness compensated for his lack of experience.." ----- end quote...
well now... imagine that.. white people benefitting from Affirmative Action. Is this a new concept? And the white guy picked not in the interests of almighty merit, (he was less experienced) but in the interests of racial 'balance'.. Very strange.. no?
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Given the more difficult environment that Africans evolved in in general they tend to be better athletes, better physically coordinated, better looking physical specimens than Europeans and Asians. It's all about the laws of mechanics: since the African body is more efficiently constructed, Africans will on average better than whites in all sports--i.e. physical activity than whites and Asian-- given equal amounts of training.
In terms of brain power on average all the different geographical groups will be equal because it's only very, very recently that most of humanity learned to read and write.
This means that until very, very recently the intellectual environments for Africans, Asians ,Europeans, etc. were all the same. Most intellectual effort was oral. Mathematical reasoning amounted to not much more than counting the number of children, cows or goats you had.
So if blacks are superior and more efficiently built specimens--assuming that diets are right--and equal in terms of brain power to others--then clearly---complete the sentence.
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All the "Aryan" talk doesn't mean diddly. Asians are kicking their asses thoroughly.
The Asian-white gap is actually bigger than it appears because of the practice of lumping numerous groups under the 'Asian" banner including native hawaiians, Samoans, and other Pacific Islanders, plus S.E Asians like Hmong refugees and others deemed to fit. Asian scores are also underreported due to the large number of Asian immigrants that are just learning English. When apples to apples are compared - native born, East Asians versus whites in the USA, the IQ score gap between whites and Asians widens in favor of Asians. Indeed Asians surpass whites on several counts. racists for example like to point out the lack of blacks in Advanced Placement classes, but when the finger is redirected at whites, you find that (quote) "Asian-American high school students complete Advanced Placement courses at triple the white rate. Whites are strikingly behind Asians in their commitment to taking these academically rigorous courses... (Thernstrom A. (2004) No Excuses: p. 92).
"The Asian presence [in higher education] is striking. Roughly 4 percent of Americans today are of Asian background. And yet Asian Americans made up 27 percent of the 2000-2001 freshmen class at MIT, 25 percent at Stanford, 24 percent at Cal tech.. 17 percent at Harvard, 15 percent at both Brown and Yale.... [etc etc.] They are far more likely to graduate from college- a startling fact. In 2000, a majority (54 percent) of Asian Americans ages 25-29 had a bachelor's degree or more as compared to with just a third (34 percent) of whites. The 20-point Asian-white graduation rate gap us even larger than the 16-point black-white gap. The Asian success story in graduate education is equally impressive. For example, Asian-American students now make up one-fifth of all the medical students in the United States, five times their share of the population as a whole. Given the enormous prestige and high income of doctors, this is a stunning achievement... [At the leading law schools] Asians currently account for 10 to 20 percent of the law students at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, NYU, COrnell, Northwestern, Berkeley, UCLA, and the University of Southern California." (Thernstrom, 2004: p. 85).
Nationwide data at the K-12 level such as NAEP scores often underreports Asian superiority, due to small sample sizes, lack of reporting data, lumping in Pacific Islanders, etc. Due to these problems, in many such assessments Asian students at the lower K-12 levels appear similar to whites, but the small datasets mask clear Asian advantages. In areas where there is more data, such as at the high school level in Math, this superiority is clear. (quote):
"Asian-American twelth-graders outscored whites by an average of about 10 points on the four mathmetics assessments conducted between 1990 and 2000." (Thernstrom A. (2004) No Excuses. p. 86).
Asians are a remarkable 2.5 times more likely than their white classmates to qualify for admission to high- end and selective, top-tier college systems like the University of California system. Asians are also more disciplined. They watch less TV than whites and do more homework. For example, (quote):
"only a quarter of white students in middle school spend more than an hour daily on schoolwork, but half of all Asian-American children do so. By the twelfth grade, the difference is even starker. Less than a quarter of whites, but 53 percent of Asians, report doing over an hour of homework every day.."
Note that research finding again: {quote}
"The 20-point Asian-white graduation rate gap us even larger than the 16-point black-white gap."
Ancient Chinese claimed to hold a “Mandate of Heaven”, according to which they had a valid claim to preside over everyone else by virtue of their unequivocal political, cultural and moral authority.
(University of Southern California)
The world's earliest surviving large-scale census was undertaken in China's Han Empire in A.D. 2 — and counted 57,771,400 people. (Joanna Waley-Cohen, "Sextants of Beijing")
For how many centuries did China have the world’s largest economy?
China has been the world’s largest economy for 18 of the past 20 centuries.
(Financial Times)
What else distinguished China?
China was not only the largest economy for much of recorded history. Until the 15th century, it also had the highest income per capita — and was the world’s technological leader.
(The Economist)
What is but one example of China’s technological leadership?
Around the year 1000, the Chinese made a series of major technical advances related to their improved knowledge of geography, astronomy, mapmaking and shipbuilding. Among other advances, they invented the compass — which radically improved their ability to navigate. China became a leading maritime power a millenia ago, when it began to build massive oceangoing junks that were capable of undertaking long-distance voyages. (Joanna Waley-Cohen, "Sextants of Beijing")
(Franklin Institute)
Which effect did that have on world commerce?
China became a leading maritime power around the year 1000, when Chinese shipbuilders began to build massive oceangoing junks. These ships were up to 300 feet long, had a capacity of 1,250 tons and were capable of undertaking long-distance voyages.
(Joanna Waley-Cohen, "Sextants of Beijing")
China was not only the largest economy for much of recorded history. Until the 15th century, it also had the highest income per capita — and was the world’s technological leader. (The Economist)
Did the state play a major role in commerce even back then?
Customs duties on imports ran at about 10%.The central government maintained monopolies on the most profitable goods, such as ivory, coral, rhinoceros horn and crocodile skins. It banned any private traffic in a number of luxury commodities — and retained an option for preferential purchase of anything imported.
(Joanna Waley-Cohen, "Sextants of Beijing")
When did China’s economic might reach its high point?
China's share of world output peaked in 1820 at about one-third of the global total.
What has happened since then?
China’s share of world GDP had rebounded to 11.5% by 1998 — well above its 1913 share of 8.9% — largely as a consequence of economic reforms enacted in the 1980s.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Bettyboo – It has been my experience, that people who cling to the concept of an I.Q. test; are themselves intellectually challenged people, who do so out of a pathetic need to feel superior, and/or out of an equally pathetic racist agenda.
I think you just prove that blacks are less intelligent. Like I said, IQ tests measures intelligence and the merriam webster dictionary just prove that! What you learn and retain is nothing other than KNOWLEDGE; How you apply that knowledge is WISDOM. It is pathetic that black people are the only people in the world who refuse to believe in the IQ tests and refuse to believe they are less intelligent. They do so out of EMOTIONS, and FEELINGS using a mechanism to defend themselves and refusing to look at the facts but rely on feelings instead. This is the very same reason black people get low scores on reading and comprehension tests. All testing is true and if you flunk it because you have yet to be taught it then that means you are lacking in that knowledge and lacking in intelligence as according to that arena. Your merriam webster dictionary just proved that. If you have not been taught it at least you can reason with facts and still come up with the right answer. But I forgot that blacks ignore facts and don't reason, hence the low IQ scores. Just fvcking give up and accept the facts that black people are not as intelligent as everyone else and their tests scores are a tiny fraction above retardation.
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quote:Originally posted by Sundjata: The guy above me, including the thread starter and even Betty Boo, are no where near most of you in terms of objective reasoning. Have some pride and stop stooping to these guys' levels; they are fringe weirdos at best. We are better than them and it isn't any more complex than that.
Sure I don't have "objective" reasoning. I don't have a low IQ neither. Just admit that blacks have lower IQ levels than other groups and are less intelligent.
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quote:Originally posted by fawal: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!! First of all, I am by no means a "racist," I just simply go by logic and facts. The reality is you simply cannot believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution and at the same time believe that all modern day humans are 100% genetically identical, and as such are predisposed to the same mental and artistic faculties. Why is it that sickle-cell anemia is found mostly among people of recent Sub-Saharan ancestry, while cystic fibrosis is found predominantly amongst Europeans? Once you get your mind around that question you will really come to realize that the idea of groups of people differing in terms of cognitive abilities really isn't all that far-fetched.
You are not racists don't let these emotional sensitive black people get to you. Black people are the only people in the world who believe that all humans are 100% biologically, genetically the same. How can they even think that when skin, hair, and phenotype is even different. If the proof is evident then you must reason that these difference lies somewhere genetically or biologically.
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Given the more difficult environment that Africans evolved in in general they tend to be better athletes, better physically coordinated, better looking physical specimens than Europeans and Asians. It's all about the laws of mechanics: since the African body is more efficiently constructed, Africans will on average better than whites in all sports--i.e. physical activity than whites and Asian-- given equal amounts of training.
In terms of brain power on average all the different geographical groups will be equal because it's only very, very recently that most of humanity learned to read and write.
This means that until very, very recently the intellectual environments for Africans, Asians ,Europeans, etc. were all the same. Most intellectual effort was oral. Mathematical reasoning amounted to not much more than counting the number of children, cows or goats you had.
So if blacks are superior and more efficiently built specimens--assuming that diets are right--and equal in terms of brain power to others--then clearly---complete the sentence.
LOL! Whatever you say. I think the Asians are more physically constructed that is why they are so flexible, athletic, and acrobatic. I have yet to see blacks dominate or compete agaisnt an Asian in acrobatics. I think the whites are more physically constructed that is why they can float and swim so well just as good as a fish. I'm still waiting to see if black people will ever take over swimming.
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