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alTakruri
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Clade frequency maps from Rosa&Brehm 2011 (link)

Interested members may want to critique them on non-L haplogroups in particular.

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It would have been nice if data from South Sudan was included. A large and important region of Africa that keeps getting ignored by geneticists.
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  • Yes.

    And Nilo-Saharans in general are sorely underbiased in the above report.


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  • Another recent study

    Pedro Soares
    et al
    The Expansion of mtDNA Haplogroup L3 within and out of Africa
    Mol Biol Evol (2011), Oxford University Press

    Anyone have links to the full study?

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http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/11/16/molbev.msr245.short?rss=1
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quote:
Originally posted by alTakruri:
Another recent study

Pedro Soares
et al
The Expansion of mtDNA Haplogroup L3 within and out of Africa
Mol Biol Evol (2011), Oxford University Press

Anyone have links to the full study?

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ayu4k3

^Supplemental data included.

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Thx Sun

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I'm L4b2.
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^^^
So the 3rd Image on page 12 best represents your Origins??

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quote:
Finally, the non-random sub-Saharan spread of North African lineages was likely mediated by the ancestors of Fulani, nomadic pastoral communities in the Sahel.
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What exactly are they saying here, can anyone clue me in??

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quote:
Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-:

quote:
Finally, the non-random sub-Saharan spread of North African lineages was likely mediated by the ancestors of Fulani, nomadic pastoral communities in the Sahel.
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What exactly are they saying here, can anyone clue me in??

I take it they're meaning N African females did
not cohabit with SSA males. SSA females with
N AFR lineages got them thousands of years
ago from ancestral Fulani females back in the
Green Sahara but not any more recent than that.

Henn is determined that Fulani are of 40 - 50%
North African heritage despite their language
and habitat. She simplified their origins per
the linkage disequilibrium figures of her 2011
PNAS article. Rosa&Brehm appear to be following
Henn despite their own Fig.4 on page 19 clearly
showing a distinct Fulani cluster adjacent to
West Africans and removed from North Africans.

Though the abstract speaks to North African lineages
in the plural, the text only gives one particular lineage
U5b1b.


Whatever the hoopla about the non-existance of race
population geneticists are retaining the Caucasian
category and its subsidiary caucasoid. Since Fulani
purportedly display caucasoid phenotypic features
genetic studies insinuate Caucasian origins for
Fulani. Some reports use highly ambiguous language
to camouflage this bias but their intentions are plain.

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