You have many threads cropping up with Egyptians moaning for a change. Moaning about how you khawagas are moaning. Bitching about you stealing Egyptian men (a sentiment not uncommon in middle and upper class Egypt). Moaning just in general. And often picking fights with specific people.

So how do you like it? Dull? Too personal? Well, guess what, that's how it was (and probably will remain) for most Egyptians on ES. You are always negative about us, always complaining, always generalising, always stereotyping. I know it's mostly good natured, that most of you post out of real concern, and that you don't mean "all Egyptian men" when you say "Egyptian men". But now you see how this can get a tad irritating. Also the personal attacks are something that you mostly do, many Egyptians were chased away from this board by the snide remarks and sniping of western posters who gang up on them. Remember that guy who posted he wanted an Internet relationship. Let's face it you can't tolerate an Egyptian who doesn't kiss up.

Anyway, just wanted to say that this is all ridiculous. Most people here take the board too seriously. So to Egyptians who feel obliged to defend their country, don't. This is just a board with a bunch of people posting mediocre stuff that only a few will read (and before anyone attacks, no my posts are not mediocre, they are utter BS, so piss off). To foreigners who feel physically threatened, harassed, and uncomfortable, just cool down. Personal attacks on the net can't be more trouble than what's happening in anyone's real life. And everyone who posts here is harmless, more bark than bite really. So just have fun.

It comes back to the English language though. How many Europeans moan about Egyptians on an Arabic site? How many Europeans can write in Arabic?

Most people who post here are not really moaning at all. They are just desperate for some advice on how to cope with a situation that could have occurred in Turkey, India, Goa or Kenya. It just happens to have occurred in Egypt.

I spent a lot of time in Thailand and always on the way home I had my ear bent for hours by men who were in relationships with Thai women and then found that they were keeping them and their families and that the object if their desires had returned to her 'profession' while they were away. It was all the fault of the British Foreign Office for not letting them have a visa. I am sure that there is a similar site in English were British men compare their experiences and their problems.

Life's the same the whole world over.

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
disgrunteled Russian about not getting enough true love to convert to Rubels,

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It is also a stereotype.

We see not the best parts of each other's nationalities'. U don't know anything about other russian women, who don't go to the Red Sea and don't have anything with egyption gigolos.

Many russian girls and I (for example) don't know and don't see those "good egyption guy", which u are talking about. I know of course that they exist, but I only was in Hurgada and didn't meet them.

And some egyption guys and girls on the forum are very agressive towards Russian nationality. Without knowing me they can call me a slut....Only because I have different view on the subject and not afraid to express it. What should I think about egyption people after that?

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
I noticed that the nature of ES has changed quite a bit. We still get the usual moan from the disgrunteled Russian about not getting enough true love to convert to Rubels, but something has changed.

You have many threads cropping up with Egyptians moaning for a change. Moaning about how you khawagas are moaning. Bitching about you stealing Egyptian men (a sentiment not uncommon in middle and upper class Egypt). Moaning just in general. And often picking fights with specific people.

So how do you like it? Dull? Too personal? Well, guess what, that's how it was (and probably will remain) for most Egyptians on ES. You are always negative about us, always complaining, always generalising, always stereotyping. I know it's mostly good natured, that most of you post out of real concern, and that you don't mean "all Egyptian men" when you say "Egyptian men". But now you see how this can get a tad irritating. Also the personal attacks are something that you mostly do, many Egyptians were chased away from this board by the snide remarks and sniping of western posters who gang up on them. Remember that guy who posted he wanted an Internet relationship. Let's face it you can't tolerate an Egyptian who doesn't kiss up.

Anyway, just wanted to say that this is all ridiculous. Most people here take the board too seriously. So to Egyptians who feel obliged to defend their country, don't. This is just a board with a bunch of people posting mediocre stuff that only a few will read (and before anyone attacks, no my posts are not mediocre, they are utter BS, so piss off). To foreigners who feel physically threatened, harassed, and uncomfortable, just cool down. Personal attacks on the net can't be more trouble than what's happening in anyone's real life. And everyone who posts here is harmless, more bark than bite really. So just have fun.

Rant over.

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when was I negative and disrespectful of Egyptians, Sir? I have not been to Egypt yet, and such rants of yours making huge generalizations based on nationality here do not make a good impression

The thread of the guy who posted a personal ad was removed at YOUR request. Together with good posts, among which a post it took me 1/2 hour to write.

This is so hypocritical of you I have no words for it.

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Originally posted by Lori:
Kimo!!!! Habibi!!! How can you pick THAT thread to rant about? This is really quite funny.

The thread of the guy who posted a personal ad was removed at YOUR request. Together with good posts, among which a post it took me 1/2 hour to write.

This is so hypocritical of you I have no words for it.

I hope you enjoy the paedophiliac thread with long unintelligible posts. Such a positive change from the post of a man looking for an adult woman for a relationship that is not sinful or condoned by any religion. It really raises the level of the entire board.

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Lori ... habibti. Why did you take that so seriously. Anyway FYI I didn't ask for that thread to be removed, I don't know who, and I don't care to know even though I posted in that thread. In fact I posted in that thread in defence of the guy!!! The thread I asked to be removed was one *I* started, I would never have someone else's thread removed.

But since we are dipped in this poisonous "Egy men are so bad" air floating like anthrax on this site, many people drew him away. And look at what remained - wrong and bizarre sexual practices, con games, swindling, lies, cheating and deceipt. All over and over, names are changed but the stories remain.

Is this really Egypt? For me, I've been there, kept my heart and my money (apart from what I left at the Papyrus Institute, but that work of art is now on my wall). But what are the others thinking? Those who have never been to Egypt, and who, thanks to this website, think Egyptian people are cheaters and liers.

And let's not forget the many Egyptians who think foreign women are stupid, superficial, only care about clothes and makeup and sex - not necessarily in that order. Sometimes they are not even technically rude, but they give you THAT look and say "why explain this to you, you wouldn't understand".

And the list can go on.

This stereotyping is not doing anyone any good.

But let's all breathe free that the guy's ad is now off the board.

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Originally posted by Lori:
Maybe you're right Kimo. But really, everything here is sooo subjective. That guy - whom we both defended - placed an ad. No one knew him, no one had ANY reason to believe he was lying or anything.

But since we are dipped in this poisonous "Egy men are so bad" air floating like anthrax on this site, many people drew him away. And look at what remained - wrong and bizarre sexual practices, con games, swindling, lies, cheating and deceipt. All over and over, names are changed but the stories remain.

Is this really Egypt? For me, I've been there, kept my heart and my money (apart from what I left at the Papyrus Institute, but that work of art is now on my wall). But what are the others thinking? Those who have never been to Egypt, and who, thanks to this website, think Egyptian people are cheaters and liers.

And let's not forget the many Egyptians who think foreign women are stupid, superficial, only care about clothes and makeup and sex - not necessarily in that order. Sometimes they are not even technically rude, but they give you THAT look and say "why explain this to you, you wouldn't understand".

And the list can go on.

This stereotyping is not doing anyone any good.

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It is striking that balance between getting peoples hopes up and warning them off. The majority that post about their man you can see it coming a mile off and the last thing you want to do is raise hopes falsely. But again you do wnat to talk about the positive relationships. No real answer

I do think that these forums change their nature as new members come and go and it makes them more interesting sometimes and repetative other lol

Egyptian women argue behind closed doors rather than in the street (I could hear them fighting in my village but I never actually saw them at it).

Egyptian men love their language and waging wars of words. The street arguments are just a way of letting everyone let of steam without causing any reallasting damage - even to anyone's feelings.