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Originally posted by SiN_iNN:
I think it was Dostojevski who said: "people are unhappy because they don t know that they are happy." I love it!

Nike -

What's Dostojevski is trying to say ?
I think he is cheating him self. Take it this way,If u r happy and u know that u r happy then that makes u happy, but if u r happy but u dun know that u r happy then that makes u not happy.
The guy has lost a point of wt makes u happy in the first place,Cause realising that u r happy or not is a second stage based on being happy at the beging.dun u think that it makes more sense this way?
He is trying to put us in a loop that never ends, which is not the case.

What makes us happy that's the question, for sure those things that makes us happy differs from someone to another, Unless all of us are identicaly phsycologicaly structured and under the same conditions.

I think it's all about staisfing needs and reaching goals "needs & goals differs from one to another.

But setting a certain goal and achiving it or satisfing any of our needs doesn't certainly makes us happy too.Cause we could fall into the case of picking the wrong goal (We could be just thinking that it would make us happy).

Simply because you'll never know wt do u want unless u know who u r ?

It's all about introducing urself to urself, That's the first thing we do when we meet some1 for the first time.

Form my point of view it's the 1st thing that we should do. Which is something that most of had not done.

It's not personal between me and the guy u mentioned (his name is so hard to pronounce and remember) , It's as simple as with all respect to the guy i dun belive in his words.

I just have a one question to u.

who r u Nike ?

could u answer that one :P

Good luck to u all.

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It makes me sick,If that's the reality "Strange but true".

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
Sin Inn, Youve hit the nail on the head! I couldnt write a better response. Knowing thyself, and when the outside is on the inside, and the inside on the outside and the upside the down side when male is female and when female is male. Thats supposed to be when we enter the Kingdom of God, presumably thats eternal happiness. Wonder if MohdAnwar gets your response. He never gets mine. Charlie

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Salamalekum, dears,

what is happyness ?
It's pretty easy....
everytime I am reading such replys I feel sooooo happy...
because once again I know that I am on the right way !!!
That's , buddys, a kind of happyness...

Happiness

How do you know that you're happy?! What's the real feeling of happiness?!

I was searching for the real happiness.
Is it when you go out with your friends, loved one having a great time?
Is it when you see something funny and laugh out load? ...etc

I found it just simple.

The Real Feeling Of Happiness

- When you help people (Old or Young or Child) for doing something or solving a problem to these people, without waiting a return.
Then you hear this little word THANK YOU with a smile on their faces.
At that moment you'll feel the real happiness inside.

I'm sure You all felt it before but maybe you didn't notice.

1-Satisfaction with your relation with God
2-Satisfaction with your relation with people around u (family , neighbour, poor people,childs,...etc)
3-Satisfaction with yourself
4-Satisfaction with what u have

so simply it is happinees almost all of it Satisfaction

Very good picture asiaq it tell a lot of things . I think if anyone want to feel happy for the moment he just can make some MEDITATION in this picture

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
What about this for an Absolute: Happiness is something you dont want, then you have it! Doesnt that apply to everything? If you dont want a car, you have it! Charlie

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Come on i dun think it's applicable for anything not everything !!!!!

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
Dear Sin Inn, Not to desire a thing is to be completely contented with what one has. It applies in my case since I dont want anything and there is nothing I want, then I must have everything. I live a life of relative poverty and therein lies the richness. Does this explain adequately? Charlie.

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Yes it does explains, But that's a vey high level of slef satisfaction to be reached while being on our amazing earth.

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
Just to add to that doesnt mean I CANT have it,because as I said Ive already got it! When I actually decide I DONT want something I occasionally go out and buy it just to prove that I didnt want it in the first place. Am I crazy or what? Charlie

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
The moment I think I am sane, I go mad, when I think I am mental I am sane, whatever I think I am, I am not, and what I think I am not, I am. Does that make any sense to any of you at all? Charlie

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To me it doesn t make any sense, UAHHH!

Anyway, I think it s great when you are happy with what you have and you don t always want the things you don t have...
Otherwise you become slave of your own wishes

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
The moment I think I am sane, I go mad, when I think I am mental I am sane, whatever I think I am, I am not, and what I think I am not, I am. Does that make any sense to any of you at all? Charlie

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Wt sense do u talk about ???

mabrouk, the first time you think clear, but until the dot of your first sentence only...

Nike made it.
He simply thinks like
a human with a good mind. He is easy and kind and he doesn't need to make anybody feel drowsy to understand.

But what about your forest of 'intellect'. What about all this nonsense...if I am good, I am bad, if I am bad I am even better...
It suits you perfectly,C. :-&
I am sure our intellect is not playing tricks on us...

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
Nikes made it. I am not going to be religious, but philosophical! It is about resurrecting the higher-self and putting the desires of the ego down, for when one lives the other dies. It is not worth it to suffer pain wanting things that are not affordable, so if one looks to the higher self within, then one doesnt want these things anyway. It is not a trick or a play on words, it is a reality which is understood by those who know. When I am good I am bad, and when I am bad I am even better! (said by the famous Mae West) Maybe she understood. "Programming" which is MohdAnwars latest topic is not quite the same thing, though one could linguisticly programme oneself not to want something. With that method the result, if successful, is that you dont get it, but do in fact still want it! With the truth I apply to myself, I dont want it so much that to force it upon me would result in possible violence.
That is the extent to which I dont want. My landlord discovered that when he tried to give me new furniture for my flat. It was subsequently all removed and sent back from where it came. I am happy to sit on a chair with one leg missing and a life crammed solid with NOTHING. Perfect bliss!!! Now I know you will all WANT to think of me as mad, if not eccentric, but that is only your own intellect playing tricks on you. Charlie

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It was quite confusing, but I think I got it. (hope so...)

"when I am good I am bad and when I am bad, I m even better..."

Mae doesn t talk about being good humans, does she? She means, when we have plenty of luxus (which makes us believe we were well, but we aren t), we can t be as good (well) as if we have not much more than ourselves (which makes us believe we were bed, but we aren t)...? We are good when not needing more than being alive with body and soul and... wait, what was it? well, body, soul and heart... living the moment with our whole being instead of never being in this moment but always thinking about what we don t have... Right?
If we don t need anything, we couldn t be better...

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Originally posted by germansara:
Heeello, Charly,

Nike made it.
He simply thinks like
a human with a good mind. He is easy and kind and he doesn't need to make anybody feel drowsy to understand.

Maasalama
sara

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Originally posted by Nike:
am a girl

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
Well, heres another one you can feast your intellect on: I am in this world, but I am not! Charlie

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Ok.
First question: who am I? Who am I really??
Second: what does it mean: "I am" ???
Third: what is this world? Can we notice everything about its essence with the few senses we have?
hmmm... confusing.
Let s just live right now right here and enjoy the moment

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Originally posted by MohdAnwar:
Welcome with a new sister

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Originally posted by sokarya@hotmail.com:
Hello Nike, yes, living in this world is an illusion. It is by appearances only that we exist, the reality is that we do not. Charlie

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Hi Charlie
Ok, lets assume that our life in this world would be an illusion...
Even in this case, the reality is (would be...) that we exist, but we aren t what we think we are, and things around are something else too.
As if we were actors playing a part and having forgotten that we are just on stage... we laugh and we cry, we play the part with body and soul and forget about who (or what) and where we really are.
(we are soul, body is stage...)

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Originally posted by Nike:
with a new sister? didn t catch it
what do you mean??

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You are my sister in humanity and Adam and eve , i was thinking you are a man not a woman so i say welcome to u, not containing any bad meaning .

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Originally posted by MohdAnwar:
You are my sister in humanity and Adam and eve , i was thinking you are a man not a woman so i say welcome to u, not containing any bad meaning .

Best Regard to u

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Originally posted by Nike:
Hi Charlie
Ok, lets assume that our life in this world would be an illusion...
Even in this case, the reality is (would be...) that we exist, but we aren t what we think we are, and things around are something else too.
As if we were actors playing a part and having forgotten that we are just on stage... we laugh and we cry, we play the part with body and soul and forget about who (or what) and where we really are.
(we are soul, body is stage...)

Nike

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Nike -

You made, If it's an illusion then we exist. Question is wts the nature of our existence ?
That trigers some other query,Wts REALITY ? and wt makes REALITY real.

That reminds me with something i read few yrs ago,Till the very moment i didn't get it !!
"Existence can't make existence existence"
Author is a chiness man,Wrote it 1000s yrs ago.

You made, If it's an illusion then we exist. Question is wts the nature of our existence ?
That trigers some other query,Wts REALITY ? and wt makes REALITY real.

Dear SiN_iNN

I think, if this world is an illusion, we just can t know what reality is. I ve read many strange ideas, all very convincing and all in conflict one with another.
If this world is an illusion, we will be taught reality when it s time for us to learn it. Until than, we have to live our part of being simply human living in a strange world... there is no use to try to understand things which are behind our capacity of understanding. We just have to enjoy our very precious life.

Nike

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Originally posted by Nike:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SiN_iNN:
[B] Nike -

You made, If it's an illusion then we exist. Question is wts the nature of our existence ?
That trigers some other query,Wts REALITY ? and wt makes REALITY real.

Dear SiN_iNN

I think, if this world is an illusion, we just can t know what reality is. I ve read many strange ideas, all very convincing and all in conflict one with another.
If this world is an illusion, we will be taught reality when it s time for us to learn it. Until than, we have to live our part of being simply human living in a strange world... there is no use to try to understand things which are behind our capacity of understanding. We just have to enjoy our very precious life.

Nike

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Dear Nike,

I think that trying to identify is major part of enjoying our very precious life

Don't quit over doughts and questions, As there is always something u may learn.