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Help! I am going there and I don't have a clue where it is. People have given me directions but as someone who is almost clueless about that area of town, they refer to landmarks with which I am completely unfamilar or streets which seem to be 10km long or which don't appear on my map. Does anyone have an online map they can point me at that shows me where it is? The only one I found seems to put it almost on top of City Stars which can't be right?
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If its where I think just put..... 70 Omar Ibn El Khatab Almaza ....in the search and you can then get a visual reference. Its very close to the main bus station for buses to Alex, Sharm etc
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Hm - checked Google Maps as I don't have Google Earth and it puts it near the junction of Merghani with Nozha. Another friend has just told me that its near the intersection of Merghani with El Thawra - I think I'm going to cry.
I better shoulder up my bergie and stick a bivvie bag in there I've a feeling it's going to turn into a saga.
I don't want to just get a taxi when i have no clue where I'm going in case they take me on an expensive sight-seeing tour!
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Never been there and hubby had no idea, so I did a google search, which I'm sure you already did and came up with these links, but posting just in case.
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Thanks LO - hm that's a 3rd Location for it and nowhere near the first two !!!!
(I did google earlier but couldn't get yallabina to load up - my net's on a go slow til 1st May when the speed goes up again).
I think I shall have to resort to asking a friend whose also going to meet me at a better spot not in the restaurant.
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Shanta, Google clearly pinpoints the road. If you come from downtown Salah Salem St. which turns into Oroba St. (Airport Rd). you just ask for Omar Ibn El Khatab St. It's a pretty big one. Any local taxi driver will now it.
Additionally the part of Omar Ibn El Khatab St. you want to go to is in between Al Nozha St. and Al Horriyya St. You can ask for Midan Almaza which is located on Omar Ibn El Khatab St. and go north.
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SQ..all you need to do is go to 70 Omar Ibn el Khattab street..that's where the 7 buildings are, its called saba3 3emarat in arabic if you can pronounce that right..there's a metro that goes there its the nozha one from Heliopolis club going to saba3 3emarat, any cab driver from heliopolis club will take you to Omar Ibn el Khattab, no big deal Shanta..where's Ferret our Heliopolis correspondent when we need her. Posts: 3219 | From: Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. | Registered: Nov 2005
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I have no clue where Heliopolis Club is I went there once in the dark in a car with someone else over a year ago. All I know in Heliopolis is Roxy / Korba.
TL = that is a very very long road stretching from near City Stars right up to Nozha.
I will be starting in Korba because I have an earlier appointment there.
Well when I finally find it I will clarify which of the 3 different locations I have 100% been given is it!
OK I've just realised when people say Heliopolis Club they mean BCA Heliopolis. If not what do you mean? Do you mean Almaza Club which is on my map?
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No SQ.. Heliopolis club is Nadi Heliopolis..don't mess things up, now all you have to do is tell the cab driver (white metered) to take you to midan almaza..from roxy or from korba it won't make any difference, then once you're there you'll see the Tivoli thing ..piece a cake..no conspiracy in the matter at all. Posts: 3219 | From: Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. | Registered: Nov 2005
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None of the above..its Heliopolis Sporting Club, nadi heliobolis in arabic, takes you straight to korba if you give your back to the gate.
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What map ? look at the metro line going all the way down to merghani street that's where the gate is..what map ? Sporting Club next to roxy area.. Posts: 3219 | From: Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. | Registered: Nov 2005
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OK I'm going to scan up the maps and then you can tell me in exactly which box.
By Merghani do you just mean the tiny little bit near the gas station which is Al merghani on my map or do you mean the whole many km long strip called al sayyid al merghani.
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I'm using dial up since I'm not in Cairo for the moment so just put the maps and I'll do what I can.
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Omar EL Khuttab Street naturally falls in the crease bottom on this page where it hits El Sawra (Thawra) is in square 7H. It goes north on the page up to square 5H where it veers off to the left stretching up through 4G 3F 2E.
(PS I would just like to say that when I used to go on those management training courses where they would blindfold someone and someone else had to talk them round an obstacle course, everyone used to beg for me to be the 'talker' because I was incredibly specific and made zero assumptions!)
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Yes, this is it..now there's a minibus number 40 from opposite the club that'll take you to almaza sq. you must tell them 'ana awza anzil fi midan almaza'..and that's where Tivoli should be..or use the merghani tram if you're not in a hurry. Posts: 3219 | From: Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. | Registered: Nov 2005
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Just to note for those watching in black and white:
The regular underground metro system does not go here.
What we have is the tram system.
However, it is often referred to by Egyptians as Heliopolis Overground Metro. This can cause confusion in foreigners.
The tram system runs parallel to the regular metro (Helwan-El Marg line) starting from Ramses Station (Mubarak metro then come outside) to around Kobri El Korba station I think, and then it diverges off on it's own sweet way.
Trams between Ramses and Roxy are pretty frequent. They diverge around Roxy and service becomes much less frequent. A friend and I did try to ride to the end of the line once but we thought we were there and weren't. Ho hum!
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I'm not good at giving directions in heliopolis since I know it by looks and never knew street names..all my life I've been driving there without knowing what street I'm in..when I'm lost, I call any of my helio friends to give me directions. Posts: 3219 | From: Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. | Registered: Nov 2005
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Also to note SQ... if you go down Mirghany away from the Sporting Club towards the Mirghany Bridge you will notice that the overground lines have been ripped up and work on the underground has began. So most websites re trams in Heliopolis are now incorrect.
I know land marks and tbh, taxi drivers don't know street names... every day I travel in and around Heliopolis and I ask for the closest Midan for example and give directions myself from there.. far easier than him stopping every three ft to ask others something even they don't know lol.
Taxi drivers here really don't have 'the knowledge'.
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When I do take a taxi home to mine, most of them haven't heard of where I live even if they say they have, so I always tell them to head for Dreampark which most of them know and then direct them from there.
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And I am watching in black and white, I noticed you there behind me in the pink
Do you recall the time I asked for KFC on Mirghany and he took me to McDonalds... his theory was he thought I was just hungry, never dawned on him I wanted to go that direction lol...
Anyways, I hope you find it ok and you are stress free.
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By the way I am just as clueless when it comes to Maadi. People who live in Maadi think everything is 'obvious' but it is one of the most confusing places on this planet!
Actually, for the newbie, being in Maadi is like being caught in a fractal.
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Yeah funny - actually, they're a lot like my parents - make assumptions that are fundamentally flawed - like when I asked my mum to get me a bottle of clear nail varnish (to stick the ladders in my tights up of course - obvious ) and she bought me a coloured one instead because she thought it looked nicer
I'm so cheapskate though that if I take a metered cab to mine, I get them to drop me off at the main entrance off the El Wahat instead of driving me to my door (unless of course I have a load of shopping or luggage) to save a couple of LE.
I'm allowed to say crap like 'watching in b&w' and 'old money' and 'new money' coz I'm a right Oldbag now and if they hadn't changed the rules in the UK 3 weeks ago, I could now be a pensioner (employer scheme not state scheme btw!) so now I have to wait another 5 years.
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My office is across the road from Tivoli, when are you going and do you want me to take you. Its on the same road as city stars, but its a bloody long road so from city stars its about a 10 min walk, if yoru coming into roxy, get a taxi to Almaza, Omar Ibn Khattab street, its nnear to Oscar supermarket which all know in the area. Tivoli is fairly new to the area, if your here sunday i can take you and show you.. catch you later!
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Shanta really recommend you download google earth for this sort of thing ( when you have got speed again LOL). It gives you a photographic image and all the street names are marked, makes it very easy to visualise where you are going and it will plot routes between places for you.
Let us know what Tivoli is like as often stay at the hotel Horeya which is very close to there.
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I find Google earth to be an excellent tool if you kinda know where you are going. I love how I can find my house in Heliopolis, technology is amazing.
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Thanks Mrs H I went yesterday before I saw your message I ended up with the friend I met yesterday afternoon giving me a lift from Baghdad st to Tivoli thank goodness because its MILES away!!!!
I did have google earth but following a major (sef-induced) computer disaster 2 weeks ago have had to completely rebuild my 'puter from scratch.
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And ?? What was Tivoli like SQ ? Posts: 3219 | From: Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. | Registered: Nov 2005
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Tivoli Dome is a mass of different eating houses from Burger King to Noodle House to Outback Steakhouse. We went to Craven restaurant and the food was very nice. Mine came to 120LE but that's because I had this special desert (which I let the others share a bit with me )
It was very lively - on the whole a 'young' crowd around the place. Obviously the place to go for the twenty somethings.
Was particularly busy getting on for midnight.
We left at 12:30 (old time, 0130 new time) and it was beginning to thin out a little by then.
Nice if you want a choice of eateries. There is a Chilis opposite (but NOT the Chilis on Al Sawara St).
Don't ask me how to get there because I abdicated all responsibility but it was about 15 mins drive in the car from the Baghdad St area. One of the women with us lives near there and she said it wasn't far from City Stars so there you go.
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So this sounds more like a hangout for the coming generation (in majority)..good to know SQ, thanks. Posts: 3219 | From: Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. | Registered: Nov 2005
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I've a feeling it's going to turn into a saga.![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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I went there once in the dark in a car with someone else over a year ago. All I know in Heliopolis is Roxy / Korba.![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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look at the metro line going all the way down to merghani street that's where the gate is..what map ? Sporting Club next to roxy area.. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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