Shari : Something that is clearly defined in the shariah.

'Urfi : Conventional or common tradition. An 'Urfi definition is acceptable to the common people without any scientific or shari precision.

Ilmi : A definition presented by science.

If the shariah defines something, all Muslims must follow that definition. If the shariah is silent on an issue, Muslims should follow the 'Urfi definition. (Source: Marriage and Morals in Islam by Sayyid Muhammad Rizvi.)

The 'Urfi is a marriage without an official contract. Couples repeat the words, "We got married" and pledge commitment before God. Usually a paper, stating that the two are married, is written and two witnesses sign it. The Egyptian government did not recognized 'Urfi marriages until 2000 and the paper could be used only to prove the relationship in court. A women could not get a divorce since the government did not recognize the marriage in the first place. Under the new personal status law passed on January 29, 2000 however, divorces from 'Urfi marriages are now recognized.

According to Madiha Al Safty (Professor of Sociology at the American University in Cairo), the 'Urfi marriage has always existed, but for different reasons.

"In the past, it was common among the widows of soldiers who had huge pensions and they did not want to lose it by officially re-marrying. Now, however, it is mostly among university students and young couples who cannot afford the high cost of marriage." (Abeer Allam Special to Middle East Times)
Undocumented 'Urfi marriages are increasingly popular among Egyptian youth. The high cost of marriage forces many young couples to wait several years before they marry. Conservative Egyptian society forbids sex before marriage, so many young people consider the 'Urfi marriage a solution. 'Urfi marriages are conducted by a Muslim cleric in the presence of two witnesses. However, they are not officially registered and are not financially binding on the man. Couples married in this way often meet in secret and avoid the expense of renting an apartment. The 'Urfi marriage can be disastrous for the wife. If the husband leaves her without granting her a divorce, she had no legal right to seek a divorce since 'Urfi marriage was considered illegal under the old status law. Her husband could remarry. The wife is in a more difficult position. If the wife remarries, she can be accused of polyandry which is punishable by seven years in prison in Egypt, or she could remain single for the rest of her life.

The new Egyptian law (passed in 2000) recognizes the woman's right to seek divorce from an 'Urfi marriage. However, the law denies her alimony and child support.

There are also controversial, unofficial "'Urfi" marriages, where a couple signs documents declaring themselves married. The couple does not inform their families of the marriage. Many Egyptian clerics are against this type of 'Urfi marriage calling it a cover for pre-marital sex.

An extreme form of 'Urfi marriage is known as zawag al-'urfi:

I think Urfi or as it has been more common spelt in english Orfi has been discussed ad nausium on these forums. You don't seem to have said anything new or frankly interesting.

In all your ignorance of your situation, I would think you would lie low with this post and not post at all.

So things are changing legal-wise. Good. Maybe after a while this dowry and mahr thing will become a stain of the past.

Then possibly there won't be a need for sex-tourism in Misr, if the law chooses to give it weight and corners sex-tourism as illegal.

Its a step in the right direction.

Possibly with the **** -paper thing totaly eliminiated in Misr, maybe that might be a larger incentive for young men to find work and possibly for Misr government to take economic development seriously.

And if couples choose to do the right thing the first time and have a real marriage, then maybe this INS thing wouldn't be so rough on the couples who are making a lifetime commitment. The only reason why all the paperwork and restrictions are there is to prove that a marriage like mine is different than a **** -paper marriage. Marriage is all or nothing, if you don't see it that way its still prostitution and fornication.

Yes it would be great if Egypt had one set of marriage laws that was valid for everyone but I don't think that was the purposes of his post. Even if it was why didn't he say so. And given all that what on earth diff is it going to make posting it here.

So his post was like a pencil without a lead POINTLESS

Face it there was nothing left for you in England. After your husband died everyone figured you out and dropped you like a bad habit. You were the paying sidekick to your popular husband.

People figured out that you didn't even wait until the father of your child was cold and dead to marry another.

I can see why you married so fast, move to Misr so fast and why the terms of your marriage don't bother you in the least.

Doesn't your daughter's English grandparents miss her at all?

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Originally posted by sonomod:
Your existance in Misr is pointless without your MONEY!

Face it there was nothing left for you in England. After your husband died everyone figured you out and dropped you like a bad habit. You were the paying sidekick to your popular husband.

People figured out that you didn't even wait until the father of your child was cold and dead to marry another.

I can see why you married so fast, move to Misr so fast and why the terms of your marriage don't bother you in the least.

Doesn't your daughter's English grandparents miss her at all?

Why in the heck would you take off for Misr so fast? What were you running from?

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Existance in any country is pretty pointless without money. It is needed to have a house, utilities and food.

You are contradicting yourself if I was a the paying sidekick how could there be nothing left for me. My popularity or otherwise is known by my friends and collegues and certainly not by you lol. I think my chairmanship of PCG speaks volumes of my personal charms. elected twice unopposed as chairman of a trade organisation of 12,000. I guess someone must like me.

Yes I was lucky to find happiness again so soon after my late husband died. It is allowed you know, we don't all have to be Queen Victoria. Anyway if you had been married to an Arab you would know what great husbands they are and why I was eager to marry another one as quickly as possible. As my daughters living grandparents live in Syria and UK us being in Egypt means both can see her easily. Her sole English grandparent first came to Egypt in 1946 so it no big deal for him to visit. I first talked about living in Egypt over 30 years ago so I am not sure my move can be considered fast.

It seems it is attack Jane week again. Is ES really getting that predictable, I supose then it will go through all the other regular posters. I really don't understand why, aren't there more interesting things to talk about. This forum is called living in Egypt, why is attacking me relevant. Ah I think I know your life is so incrediably boring and mine so exciting you are jealous, how sad

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Originally posted by sonomod:
Your existance in Misr is pointless without your MONEY!

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Originally posted by Darkeyes:
What the heck would someone living in Minnasota know about it or even care? Sonomod, you're just a trouble maker and a real jerk. Since you're a student, I guess you haven't learned that it takes money to get by in the real world. I guess Mommy and Daddy are still paying for you. Crawl back under your rock.

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Wait a minute talk about assumptions here.

I waited to start college because according to Federal and statue student loan requirements I needed a co-signer and untill I turned 25, I didn't have a co-signer. So independant since I was 17 I waited. And then went to college once I had the student loans to pay for it. Got married at 27 and then had $30,000 in my husband's debt to pay off less than a year later.

Nobody has ever fucking paid my way. NEVER! I have been working part-time or full time and doing college full time since I was 25. I have taken extra money out of my students loans to pay our expenses.

At least I went to college, I know somebody else haven't.

And if you weren't paying attention, This professional group, she said she ran 'unoppossed'. Jane takes advantage of the fact that people don't thoroughly read what others write.

Jane is sick, what she writes on other boards have circulated amongst people who are shocked and dislike her. Not many have the balls to see or quote her for what she is, many tourists take advantage of the 'Little European' mentality in order to have the resounding last word. But it doesn't change the facts.

Jane doesn't bring her daughter back to England for visits and I doubt that Jane has her family see her daughter either. Nor has Jane kept any contact with people she knows in England. She was forced to start fresh. ANd it shows.

Plus without a completed college degree her IT skills are not competitive in the UK or Europe. It was in one of those links that Blunt or mooneybasher posted. She was claiming that she couldn't keep her consultant work going. Meaning her career was finished before she was 42. Now that is scarry.

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Originally posted by Mimmi:
Do you know Jane in person??
Even if you know I don't think you have any right to write about herprivate life here.
Just keep to matters conserning you and dont get so mean towards others.

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Grow up!

I don't know her personally and would never want to.

She has this fantasy world complex and then goes out of her way to insult others that don't have this fantasy complex.

Give it time. She drinks like crazy has health problems. Extremely overweight. Sooner or later she will make problems for her husband and will want to be rid of her. In due time your daughter will come of age and since this child is a product of an apostate she will fetch quite a price right below the border.

Its a castrophy waiting to happen. And then she sits there high and mighty like she is all knowing and can pass judgement on everyone.

Not everyone who has stayed in her flats came away happy with their stay and some actually find her vile.

Give it time, she's a goner and so is her kid.

I have a classmate who recently came back from 9 weeks in Mogadishu, Somalia. Across the border his mother lives in an refugee camp. This woman has seen Sudanese Clerics try to enlist men to help with the Sudanese effort. One of his wives was a light skinned Bosnian. Imagine the price someone like him would pay for an apostate's child?

Its sick.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
I don't think I will ever want to go south of Giza.

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Well thank heavens for that. With your attitudes you would not be welcome in the lovely place I live.

I am still amazed that your life is sooooooo boring you spend so much time looking into mine. I really must write that book.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
At least I went to college, I know somebody else haven't.

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I didn't read the post because I am far too optimistic that someone that screwed up and sick really exists in the world, so I just write off anything Sonom posts as some idiot trying to wind up other posters.

But that line (thankfully) jumped out and made me laugh out loud.

<<Personally I am willing to join any faith community that allows women to have multiple husbands. In my state women make more money than the men anyway. And we out number them too.>>

Your hubby keeping you around for a free meal ticket? I know that's right. Just what kind of deal did you make with Daddy-in-law to take the boy off his hands?

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Originally posted by akshar:
Well thank heavens for that. With your attitudes you would not be welcome in the lovely place I live.

I am still amazed that your life is sooooooo boring you spend so much time looking into mine. I really must write that book.

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No not a book, a call for decency.

I think people like you should be excused from Misr completely. The foreign service office should pull your visa and boot you out.

There must be some way to give young men married or not their dignity back.

Why is it that Misr has this morality issue and they don't in other Arab countries. They kick out the money bags in other Arab/Muslim countries why not in Misr?

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Originally posted by Darkeyes:
You are the sick one, Sonomod, and the one that needs to grow up. Grown ups don't attack other people that way. You're already making trouble for your husband I'm sure and he will want to get rid of you soon, unless you've got him so beaten down he can't move. You said on another post:

<<Personally I am willing to join any faith community that allows women to have multiple husbands. In my state women make more money than the men anyway. And we out number them too.>>

Your hubby keeping you around for a free meal ticket? I know that's right. Just what kind of deal did you make with Daddy-in-law to take the boy off his hands?

[This message has been edited by Darkeyes (edited 13 December 2004).]

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Actually his father and his mother both want him home.

My father in law wants me to feel welcome in Misr and is extremely happy that I have done my research as well as I have. It might be academic but I use these forumns to fill in the rough gaps.

And my husband isn't the one beaten down. I actually am encouraged to stand my ground with him by his own family.

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Originally posted by akshar:
With your attitudes you would not be welcome in the lovely place I live.

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So the attitude I should carry is one of a sex tourist like yourself?

I shouldn't expect any dignity or morality out of the men?

That because someone is poor, weak and lazy I should take advantage of him and offer money (a secure life for his extended family) in exchange for sex?

What I don't understand is how the community down there, let alone his family can support this. They must be extremely desperate. Or they could look at you as she is old, doesn't have long to live, we'll reaffirm her child's lost faith. And then sell her child to some warlord.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
So the attitude I should carry is one of a sex tourist like yourself?

I shouldn't expect any dignity or morality out of the men?

That because someone is poor, weak and lazy I should take advantage of him and offer money (a secure life for his extended family) in exchange for sex?

What I don't understand is how the community down there, let alone his family can support this. They must be extremely desperate. Or they could look at you as she is old, doesn't have long to live, we'll reaffirm her child's lost faith. And then sell her child to some warlord.

[This message has been edited by sonomod (edited 13 December 2004).]

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I always find people that are unhappy, have very low self esteem, no confidence, are extremely ugly with their words.

Such a pity to have a life full of such sour thoughts and empty of sweet ones.

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Originally posted by kimo_the_maniac:
You are positively creepy, sick and creepy. Sonomod please please please seek professional help.

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No I am not in the least bit creepy. Wait a minute isn't egyptsearch forumn's keeping you from entertaining the money bags on EGYPTMAD? Obviously you have no problem entertaining a bunch of old bags who have no respect for Islam or your country's morality structure.

At least your a good 'Little European'.

Isn't it strange that the only part of Islam they will honor is this Urfi wife crap?

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Originally posted by sonomod:
My attitude is just fine, your's is predatory. Thank God that you'll be dead soon. There isn't the health care available to handle your problems and your time will run out someway or another.

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What kind of a sick bitch are you, Sonomod? Don't you realize it's yourself and YOUR husband you are making look bad. To say things like this to someone you don't even know is the lowest of the low. I hope they take your children away from you. You shouldn't be allowed to raise them.

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Originally posted by sonomod:

At least your a good 'Little European'.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
No I am not in the least bit creepy.

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Originally posted by Nile Watcher:
For all of your so called "education" you sure didn't learn how to spell. At least three of your posts have "your" when you mean "you're" and "their" when it should be "they're" and "quite" instead of "quiet". I wouldn't be calling other people ignorant if I were you because your poor spelling, foul words, and hateful attacks show that you are the ignorant one.

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Spelling isnt exactly an artform on this or any other forumn.

While your spewing your own attacks for no obvious reason. I haven't attacked you and have no reason. You are validating this sick practice of prostitution.

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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 25 2004,19:25

All the above have been nominated & we would like to know from each man the reasons why he should win EM Mr Universe, ask yourself the following questions;

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

2) What are your future goals

3) What hobbies do you do

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

7) Are you romantic

8) Can you wire a plug

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 25 2004,19:40

I forgot elmagnoon you can be a late entry
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 25 2004,21:51

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

Nothing

2) What are your future goals

To live a life of self gratification.

3) What hobbies do you do

Chasing women, drinking beer, and playing darts

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

Of course not

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

No, it's the woman's role to please me.

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

Definitely

7) Are you romantic

Yes, you'll always get a peck on the cheek before I roll over after a good shag

8) Can you wire a plug

Yes

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

Yes, but only really hard core

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

No, I'd look daft.

Give up now guys, we have a winner I think
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Posted by: Ayisha on Nov. 25 2004,22:48

can i judge
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Posted by: shisha on Nov. 26 2004,00:05

Ok I voted really shallowley, I voted with a mans mind and just picked the cute one with the six pack.

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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 26 2004,02:32

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1) What have you done in your life that has helped others
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I've done plenty to help other people, sometimes at my own expense unfortunately. To give you an example, I supported my cousins' family for about 3yrs when I was in the Military by giving them money; despite the fact that my parents told me not to.. Later on, I found out why they didn't want me to, because 3yrs later, I haven't gotten back even 1 penny of the thousands of dollars I gave to them!

Oh well, c'est la vie! Plus, I work as a Fireman and EMT, so I help people everytime I go to work, and have saved a few lives here and there..

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2) What are your future goals
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Honestly? I don't really know what I want to do yet. I know that I want to find some way to travel to my hearts' content, and I may try out modeling to see what it can offer me..

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3) What hobbies do you do
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Zoology, History, Computers, Cars, Occult Phenomena, Spiritual Philosophy, and many others..

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4) Can you cook & look after yourself
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I can certainly look after myself, but I can't cook worth a **** unfortunately

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5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please
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I most certainly am. Usually, whatever woman I'm having sex with will have three orgasms before I even have my first. I derive lots of pleasure from giving; especially in a certain way.

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6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)
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Alcohol, food, good music, and good company. Just need those ingredients, and voila! Perfect party!

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7) Are you romantic
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Very much so.. I'm not a hopeless romantic though.

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8) Can you wire a plug
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Yes I can. I'm very good at technical and mechanical work.. Just don't ask me to do any carpentry work

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9) Can you admit to watching porno movies
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Any man that says he's never watched a porno movie, is a freaking liar! So, my answer to this is obviously yes.

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10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown
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Just make sure it's a manly crown, and you've got yourself a deal

~Alistair
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Posted by: Monkeyman on Nov. 26 2004,09:11

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

I must've done something, not quite sure tho.

2) What are your future goals

Get married and raise a family, i'm still hesitant about popping the question tho

3) What hobbies do you do

My favorite past-time hobby is having sex

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

That is an affirmative, i just made appricot crumble last night, out of scratch i might say, no ready made stuff here.

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

I get pleasure out of giving it, it's my duty too as a lover. One smile on my baby's face is worth it, that and it turns me on so much......

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

Na, never been my strong siute, but mi casa esu casa

7) Are you romantic

Yes, to a borderline pathetic point, but it seems to agree with women, so i'm not complaining

8) Can you wire a plug

phhhh....i like to work with my hands.....and tongue, and any limb that can move back and forth.

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

hey, it is very inspirational to your love life, try watching a porn-flick with your partner and see what happens 10 minutes into the movie.

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

no freakin way!!! i will not be paraded like some zoo animal.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,11:59

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All the above have been nominated & we would like to know from each man the reasons why he should win EM Mr Universe, ask yourself the following questions;

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

2) What are your future goals

3) What hobbies do you do

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

7) Are you romantic

8) Can you wire a plug

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

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1) When I talk to people I usually manage to cheer them up.

2) Get some sleep.

3) Usually swimming, at the moment sleeping in lectures.

4) Have to. Not doing a great job, some days I think I eat cardboard and I don't notice.

5) No. I am an engineer.

6) No. I am an engineer.

7) No. Materialistic.

8) Huh?

9) Who doesn't.

10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,12:11

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10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Well I never, somebody just did

Kimo, I'm seeing you in a tiara, one of those silvery ones
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,12:16

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10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Well I never, somebody just did

Kimo, I'm seeing you in a tiara, one of those silvery ones
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Moll, was it u, did you vote for me huh huh huh huh?
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,12:25

Well you've got TWO votes now, Kimo

But if you REALLY want that tiara, and I know you do, maybe you should brush up on questions 5 and 7
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,12:30

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Well you've got TWO votes now, Kimo

But if you REALLY want that tiara, and I know you do, maybe you should brush up on questions 5 and 7
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Okay let's give the standard answers, women like honesty my foot:

5) Around me women always come first.

7) Do bears **** in the wood?
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,13:20

WOW kimo, you've got three votes now!

OK, No 5's an improvement

But No 7 still needs a LITTLE bit of work, want some ideas?
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Posted by: Rapunzel on Nov. 26 2004,13:24

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Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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ok kimo i did vote for you, i was going to vote for sam but couldn't resist the call for the motakhalefeen out there ..
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,13:30

Rapunzel, you're seeing it too, aren't you? That silvery tiara perched on his head, the tears in his eyes as he makes his acceptance speech.........
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Posted by: Rapunzel on Nov. 26 2004,13:37

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Rapunzel, you're seeing it too, aren't you? That silvery tiara perched on his head, the tears in his eyes as he makes his acceptance speech.........
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hehehe.. yeah, like it is there before my eyes
" i wanna thank my mom for being there for me all the time.. my dad and my agency.. and all my sweet friends, moll& Dina.. who guided me along the way till i got the crown, and all those who voted for me.. i am sending you all a big hug, you special beebol "

can i puke now ?
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 26 2004,15:04

Glad to see all you guys are taking this seriously

I have already voted I had to vote for Neme - sympathy vote really I mean look at his answers bless him he's so honest

But then look at DP surely this guy is just too PERFECT

As for Kimo well - I think he needs our help girls

Monkeyman not bad for a monkey & I never realised you were such a romantic

It's a tough call ladies
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 26 2004,21:58

I voted Samaritaine cause I love his sense of humour besides I've heard he is good looking.
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 26 2004,22:00

For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 26 2004,22:06

[quote=Louisa,Nov. 25 2004,19:25][/quote]
1) What have you done in your life that has helped others
I make people feel good about themselves

2) What are your future goals
To be a music producer/photgrapher/traveller, sharing experiences with a significant other (I'm still single though, so get in line )

3) What hobbies do you do
See above (not as much as I'd like, still can't afford decent equipment for the music or as traveling as I'd like to do)

4) Can you cook & look after yourself
Yep

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please
Oh yeah!

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)
Don't have the proper place for it now, but I know how to please

7) Are you romantic
Yep, but I have a grasp on reality

8) Can you wire a plug
With manufacturer instructions

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies
Sure thing, I have no shame whatsoever! But I'm not much into watching this stuff, I'd rather be doing the real thing

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown
And a scepter!
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Posted by: shisha on Nov. 27 2004,01:16

Wait ! I take back my vote, I was to hasty, I did not wait for them to post their CV's!

I re-do my vote to Kimo, bascially becuase he said the GOLDEN words he likes to TALK

whoo hoo never heard a man say that he likes to talk AND he actually makes ppl feel better

you got my vote
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 27 2004,15:50

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For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 28 2004,07:21

wat habbened, I won? Thank you all, you love me you truly love me.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 28 2004,07:25

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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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SAWWWAAAAH LE-OOOOOOSAAAAR.
I won it fair and square, you know very well that I_am_not_kimo_01 through I_am_not_kimo_06 are established and respected members of EM, so I don't want any of that mudslinging crap. Plus by saying what you said I think you are abusing your admin power, I bet you read my pm's and kill bunnies and beat up little girls and stuff.
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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 28 2004,08:14

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For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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Oh come on Simon!

Stop being such a "tosser!"

Let Kimo have his moment.

Let us be happy knowing, that in REAL LIFE women throw themselves at us with wreckless abandon

The bad guys always gets "first dibs!"

~Alistair
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Posted by: Ayisha on Nov. 28 2004,11:59

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wat habbened, I won? Thank you all, you love me you truly love me.
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well after much deliberation i had to vote Kimo

coz he has the ability to cry shows he has feelings
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 28 2004,13:05

Your'e right DP.
I'd just like to say, a big thank you to everyone who has supported me, you've all been wonderful, it's been a great campaign, we came so close. I'd also like to (choke) congratulate the winner kimo, he has my full support in his (hopefully short) term as EM Mr Universe, I'm sure is Tiara will suit him.
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Posted by: Zargun on Nov. 28 2004,14:29

I just like to say that although I'm sure you are all gorgeous, I voted for the underdog (i.e. Struggler).

Don't ask me why, maybe I found one of his posts refreshingly honest.
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Posted by: samaritaine on Nov. 28 2004,21:04

Just for u Mo.
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 29 2004,01:34

Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 29 2004,01:59

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Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
---------------------QUOTE-------------------

Hey, that's one more than me, so stop complaining!

And, one that did vote for me, took it back!

The nerve!

Oh well, you know what they say..

Women are fickle!

Thats why you have to string them around

~Alistair
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 29 2004,02:24

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And, one that did vote for me, took it back!

The nerve!
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You have to admit, that was funny!
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Posted by: STRUGGLER on Nov. 29 2004,02:35

thx a BILLION ,Zargun. Appreciate it BUNCHES.
But u know what guys, i'll vote this time and it'll be for Kimo as this young guy is digging really hard to achieve his goals .
and my best advice to him would be :
Always , Be jealous and NOT envious and this will payoff in the end.
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 29 2004,16:34

Kimo we need to see a pic of you wearing your tiara i mean crown

Come on Kimo do it for the girls ........

Kimo, Kimo, Kimo, we love Kimo get your kit off for the girls
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 29 2004,16:38

I hope you realise this sparked off a small domestic incident when my hubby realised I'd voted for kimo....well it was actually a message from beyond, kimo is VERY popular with ex-guinea pigs
So kimo, the very LEAST you can do is show us your tiara
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Posted by: Monkeyman on Nov. 30 2004,03:23

I call for a recount of votes.....

Is Kimo related to G Dubya in anyway?
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:34

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Is Kimo related to G Dubya in anyway?
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Oh man seriously, take that back, I can't even imagine it, brrr.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:41

Okay here are some pics from my "save the rainforest and stuff" tour as Mr. Universe:
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:42

Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:50

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------
I hope you realise this sparked off a small domestic incident when my hubby realised I'd voted for kimo....well it was actually a message from beyond, kimo is VERY popular with ex-guinea pigs
So kimo, the very LEAST you can do is show us your tiara
---------------------QUOTE-------------------

Oh Moll, shame on you, how dare you vote for someone else? Will is such a nice guy. Plus you shouldn't vote for someone other than your husband on the Internet, or haven't you learned anything from your little episode in you know where?

Tsk tsk tsk

Will, I voted for me when I had no votes if wouldn't have tied with whatisname if I retracted it I would've given you my vote to correct the sin Moll has wrought
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 30 2004,12:52

What little episode in I don't know where?

Kimo, I voted for my hubby, I am a good wife
But then I got a message from beyond, it was from Patch telling me that you're very big in guinea pig heaven and you should get another vote
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 30 2004,17:27

Kimo looks to me you're the best!
This is one for King Kimo!
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Posted by: Dee on Nov. 30 2004,22:24

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Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Awwwwww Kimo...I know how much you really meant to post those pix.
You can always email them to me and I'll make sure they get posted!
Maybe I can even photoshop a tiara on the winner's head to add to the effect.
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Posted by: Fil_tarawa on Dec. 01 2004,06:00

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Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Awwwwww Kimo...I know how much you really meant to post those pix.
You can always email them to me and I'll make sure they get posted!
Maybe I can even photoshop a tiara on the winner's head to add to the effect.
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ayayay there's a match between kimo and hazhaz!!
may the best man win!

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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,12:33

I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,16:52

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I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Just wondering about the new members on EM, who exactly are i_am_not_haze_01, i_am_not_haze_02, i_am_not_haze_03 etc.
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:03

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I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Just wondering about the new members on EM, who exactly are i_am_not_haze_01, i_am_not_haze_02, i_am_not_haze_03 etc.
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Huh??
I have no idea what that is.. Is someone rigging the contest to my favor?

Well, I wouldn't resort to that myself (you can check IP's ), but whoever out there doing it, thanks
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,17:11

Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:22

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,17:28

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:43

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
---------------------QUOTE-------------------

The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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Posted by: SupremeBeing on Dec. 02 2004,03:24

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---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
---------------------QUOTE-------------------

The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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I just gave you my vote...

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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 02 2004,23:12

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---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
---------------------QUOTE-------------------

The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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I just gave you my vote...
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YEAH!
Thanks mate
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Posted by: Louisa on Dec. 03 2004,14:56

haze you're disqualified on the grounds of vote rigging.

You get the booby prize a day out with Alistair on the Texas rodeo
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Posted by: samaritaine on Dec. 04 2004,01:10

Haze. when I vote for you, I expected you to vote for me, not yourself....badrazz.gif.....Gee U go away for a few daze and it all goes to s**t.... But well done the winner. ..... Who ever you maybe.... BTW...Lou sweets not speaking.. .... Also, I like boobies I think they are great. so if you are any going I'll have them please.
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 04 2004,02:42

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haze you're disqualified on the grounds of vote rigging.

You get the booby prize a day out with Alistair on the Texas rodeo
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I did not rig it! It was rigged in my favor (not that it's hard to believe that all those people think I'm hot stuff ! )

The people have spoken Lou, join the masses
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 04 2004,02:45

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Haze. when I vote for you, I expected you to vote for me, not yourself....badrazz.gif.....Gee U go away for a few daze and it all goes to s**t.... But well done the winner. ..... Who ever you maybe.... BTW...Lou sweets not speaking.. .... Also, I like boobies I think they are great. so if you are any going I'll have them please.
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Ya pasha I would have voted for you if I hadn't nulled my vote on the first day

I figured this should be strictly for the ladies to decide at first, but turns out the guys also play a major role there
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 04 2004,14:44

Exactly Haze, I think you got the male vote. Now what does that say about you
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Posted by: emeerza on Dec. 04 2004,17:01

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Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
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it was a haaaaarrrrd haaaaarrrrd decision but in the end, you got my vote haze, and it was'nt a sympathy vote either sweetie pie

not that you needed it, i see you've won anyway
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+--Forum: General Discussion
+---Topic: EM's Mr Universe started by Louisa
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 25 2004,19:25

All the above have been nominated & we would like to know from each man the reasons why he should win EM Mr Universe, ask yourself the following questions;

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

2) What are your future goals

3) What hobbies do you do

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

7) Are you romantic

8) Can you wire a plug

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 25 2004,19:40

I forgot elmagnoon you can be a late entry
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 25 2004,21:51

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

Nothing

2) What are your future goals

To live a life of self gratification.

3) What hobbies do you do

Chasing women, drinking beer, and playing darts

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

Of course not

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

No, it's the woman's role to please me.

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

Definitely

7) Are you romantic

Yes, you'll always get a peck on the cheek before I roll over after a good shag

8) Can you wire a plug

Yes

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

Yes, but only really hard core

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

No, I'd look daft.

Give up now guys, we have a winner I think
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Posted by: Ayisha on Nov. 25 2004,22:48

can i judge
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Posted by: shisha on Nov. 26 2004,00:05

Ok I voted really shallowley, I voted with a mans mind and just picked the cute one with the six pack.

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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 26 2004,02:32

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1) What have you done in your life that has helped others
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I've done plenty to help other people, sometimes at my own expense unfortunately. To give you an example, I supported my cousins' family for about 3yrs when I was in the Military by giving them money; despite the fact that my parents told me not to.. Later on, I found out why they didn't want me to, because 3yrs later, I haven't gotten back even 1 penny of the thousands of dollars I gave to them!

Oh well, c'est la vie! Plus, I work as a Fireman and EMT, so I help people everytime I go to work, and have saved a few lives here and there..

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2) What are your future goals
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Honestly? I don't really know what I want to do yet. I know that I want to find some way to travel to my hearts' content, and I may try out modeling to see what it can offer me..

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3) What hobbies do you do
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Zoology, History, Computers, Cars, Occult Phenomena, Spiritual Philosophy, and many others..

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4) Can you cook & look after yourself
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I can certainly look after myself, but I can't cook worth a **** unfortunately

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5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please
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I most certainly am. Usually, whatever woman I'm having sex with will have three orgasms before I even have my first. I derive lots of pleasure from giving; especially in a certain way.

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6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)
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Alcohol, food, good music, and good company. Just need those ingredients, and voila! Perfect party!

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7) Are you romantic
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Very much so.. I'm not a hopeless romantic though.

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8) Can you wire a plug
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Yes I can. I'm very good at technical and mechanical work.. Just don't ask me to do any carpentry work

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9) Can you admit to watching porno movies
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Any man that says he's never watched a porno movie, is a freaking liar! So, my answer to this is obviously yes.

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10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown
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Just make sure it's a manly crown, and you've got yourself a deal

~Alistair
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Posted by: Monkeyman on Nov. 26 2004,09:11

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

I must've done something, not quite sure tho.

2) What are your future goals

Get married and raise a family, i'm still hesitant about popping the question tho

3) What hobbies do you do

My favorite past-time hobby is having sex

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

That is an affirmative, i just made appricot crumble last night, out of scratch i might say, no ready made stuff here.

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

I get pleasure out of giving it, it's my duty too as a lover. One smile on my baby's face is worth it, that and it turns me on so much......

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

Na, never been my strong siute, but mi casa esu casa

7) Are you romantic

Yes, to a borderline pathetic point, but it seems to agree with women, so i'm not complaining

8) Can you wire a plug

phhhh....i like to work with my hands.....and tongue, and any limb that can move back and forth.

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

hey, it is very inspirational to your love life, try watching a porn-flick with your partner and see what happens 10 minutes into the movie.

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

no freakin way!!! i will not be paraded like some zoo animal.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,11:59

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All the above have been nominated & we would like to know from each man the reasons why he should win EM Mr Universe, ask yourself the following questions;

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

2) What are your future goals

3) What hobbies do you do

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

7) Are you romantic

8) Can you wire a plug

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

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1) When I talk to people I usually manage to cheer them up.

2) Get some sleep.

3) Usually swimming, at the moment sleeping in lectures.

4) Have to. Not doing a great job, some days I think I eat cardboard and I don't notice.

5) No. I am an engineer.

6) No. I am an engineer.

7) No. Materialistic.

8) Huh?

9) Who doesn't.

10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,12:11

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10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Well I never, somebody just did

Kimo, I'm seeing you in a tiara, one of those silvery ones
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,12:16

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------

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10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Well I never, somebody just did

Kimo, I'm seeing you in a tiara, one of those silvery ones
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Moll, was it u, did you vote for me huh huh huh huh?
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,12:25

Well you've got TWO votes now, Kimo

But if you REALLY want that tiara, and I know you do, maybe you should brush up on questions 5 and 7
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,12:30

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Well you've got TWO votes now, Kimo

But if you REALLY want that tiara, and I know you do, maybe you should brush up on questions 5 and 7
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Okay let's give the standard answers, women like honesty my foot:

5) Around me women always come first.

7) Do bears **** in the wood?
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,13:20

WOW kimo, you've got three votes now!

OK, No 5's an improvement

But No 7 still needs a LITTLE bit of work, want some ideas?
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Posted by: Rapunzel on Nov. 26 2004,13:24

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Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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ok kimo i did vote for you, i was going to vote for sam but couldn't resist the call for the motakhalefeen out there ..
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,13:30

Rapunzel, you're seeing it too, aren't you? That silvery tiara perched on his head, the tears in his eyes as he makes his acceptance speech.........
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Posted by: Rapunzel on Nov. 26 2004,13:37

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Rapunzel, you're seeing it too, aren't you? That silvery tiara perched on his head, the tears in his eyes as he makes his acceptance speech.........
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hehehe.. yeah, like it is there before my eyes
" i wanna thank my mom for being there for me all the time.. my dad and my agency.. and all my sweet friends, moll& Dina.. who guided me along the way till i got the crown, and all those who voted for me.. i am sending you all a big hug, you special beebol "

can i puke now ?
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 26 2004,15:04

Glad to see all you guys are taking this seriously

I have already voted I had to vote for Neme - sympathy vote really I mean look at his answers bless him he's so honest

But then look at DP surely this guy is just too PERFECT

As for Kimo well - I think he needs our help girls

Monkeyman not bad for a monkey & I never realised you were such a romantic

It's a tough call ladies
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 26 2004,21:58

I voted Samaritaine cause I love his sense of humour besides I've heard he is good looking.
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 26 2004,22:00

For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 26 2004,22:06

[quote=Louisa,Nov. 25 2004,19:25][/quote]
1) What have you done in your life that has helped others
I make people feel good about themselves

2) What are your future goals
To be a music producer/photgrapher/traveller, sharing experiences with a significant other (I'm still single though, so get in line )

3) What hobbies do you do
See above (not as much as I'd like, still can't afford decent equipment for the music or as traveling as I'd like to do)

4) Can you cook & look after yourself
Yep

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please
Oh yeah!

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)
Don't have the proper place for it now, but I know how to please

7) Are you romantic
Yep, but I have a grasp on reality

8) Can you wire a plug
With manufacturer instructions

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies
Sure thing, I have no shame whatsoever! But I'm not much into watching this stuff, I'd rather be doing the real thing

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown
And a scepter!
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Posted by: shisha on Nov. 27 2004,01:16

Wait ! I take back my vote, I was to hasty, I did not wait for them to post their CV's!

I re-do my vote to Kimo, bascially becuase he said the GOLDEN words he likes to TALK

whoo hoo never heard a man say that he likes to talk AND he actually makes ppl feel better

you got my vote
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 27 2004,15:50

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For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 28 2004,07:21

wat habbened, I won? Thank you all, you love me you truly love me.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 28 2004,07:25

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------
For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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SAWWWAAAAH LE-OOOOOOSAAAAR.
I won it fair and square, you know very well that I_am_not_kimo_01 through I_am_not_kimo_06 are established and respected members of EM, so I don't want any of that mudslinging crap. Plus by saying what you said I think you are abusing your admin power, I bet you read my pm's and kill bunnies and beat up little girls and stuff.
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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 28 2004,08:14

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------
For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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Oh come on Simon!

Stop being such a "tosser!"

Let Kimo have his moment.

Let us be happy knowing, that in REAL LIFE women throw themselves at us with wreckless abandon

The bad guys always gets "first dibs!"

~Alistair
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Posted by: Ayisha on Nov. 28 2004,11:59

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wat habbened, I won? Thank you all, you love me you truly love me.
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well after much deliberation i had to vote Kimo

coz he has the ability to cry shows he has feelings
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 28 2004,13:05

Your'e right DP.
I'd just like to say, a big thank you to everyone who has supported me, you've all been wonderful, it's been a great campaign, we came so close. I'd also like to (choke) congratulate the winner kimo, he has my full support in his (hopefully short) term as EM Mr Universe, I'm sure is Tiara will suit him.
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Posted by: Zargun on Nov. 28 2004,14:29

I just like to say that although I'm sure you are all gorgeous, I voted for the underdog (i.e. Struggler).

Don't ask me why, maybe I found one of his posts refreshingly honest.
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Posted by: samaritaine on Nov. 28 2004,21:04

Just for u Mo.
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 29 2004,01:34

Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 29 2004,01:59

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Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
---------------------QUOTE-------------------

Hey, that's one more than me, so stop complaining!

And, one that did vote for me, took it back!

The nerve!

Oh well, you know what they say..

Women are fickle!

Thats why you have to string them around

~Alistair
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 29 2004,02:24

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And, one that did vote for me, took it back!

The nerve!
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You have to admit, that was funny!
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Posted by: STRUGGLER on Nov. 29 2004,02:35

thx a BILLION ,Zargun. Appreciate it BUNCHES.
But u know what guys, i'll vote this time and it'll be for Kimo as this young guy is digging really hard to achieve his goals .
and my best advice to him would be :
Always , Be jealous and NOT envious and this will payoff in the end.
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 29 2004,16:34

Kimo we need to see a pic of you wearing your tiara i mean crown

Come on Kimo do it for the girls ........

Kimo, Kimo, Kimo, we love Kimo get your kit off for the girls
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 29 2004,16:38

I hope you realise this sparked off a small domestic incident when my hubby realised I'd voted for kimo....well it was actually a message from beyond, kimo is VERY popular with ex-guinea pigs
So kimo, the very LEAST you can do is show us your tiara
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Posted by: Monkeyman on Nov. 30 2004,03:23

I call for a recount of votes.....

Is Kimo related to G Dubya in anyway?
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:34

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Is Kimo related to G Dubya in anyway?
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Oh man seriously, take that back, I can't even imagine it, brrr.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:41

Okay here are some pics from my "save the rainforest and stuff" tour as Mr. Universe:
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:42

Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:50

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I hope you realise this sparked off a small domestic incident when my hubby realised I'd voted for kimo....well it was actually a message from beyond, kimo is VERY popular with ex-guinea pigs
So kimo, the very LEAST you can do is show us your tiara
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Oh Moll, shame on you, how dare you vote for someone else? Will is such a nice guy. Plus you shouldn't vote for someone other than your husband on the Internet, or haven't you learned anything from your little episode in you know where?

Tsk tsk tsk

Will, I voted for me when I had no votes if wouldn't have tied with whatisname if I retracted it I would've given you my vote to correct the sin Moll has wrought
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 30 2004,12:52

What little episode in I don't know where?

Kimo, I voted for my hubby, I am a good wife
But then I got a message from beyond, it was from Patch telling me that you're very big in guinea pig heaven and you should get another vote
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 30 2004,17:27

Kimo looks to me you're the best!
This is one for King Kimo!
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Posted by: Dee on Nov. 30 2004,22:24

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Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Awwwwww Kimo...I know how much you really meant to post those pix.
You can always email them to me and I'll make sure they get posted!
Maybe I can even photoshop a tiara on the winner's head to add to the effect.
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Posted by: Fil_tarawa on Dec. 01 2004,06:00

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Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Awwwwww Kimo...I know how much you really meant to post those pix.
You can always email them to me and I'll make sure they get posted!
Maybe I can even photoshop a tiara on the winner's head to add to the effect.
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ayayay there's a match between kimo and hazhaz!!
may the best man win!

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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,12:33

I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,16:52

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I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Just wondering about the new members on EM, who exactly are i_am_not_haze_01, i_am_not_haze_02, i_am_not_haze_03 etc.
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:03

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I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Just wondering about the new members on EM, who exactly are i_am_not_haze_01, i_am_not_haze_02, i_am_not_haze_03 etc.
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Huh??
I have no idea what that is.. Is someone rigging the contest to my favor?

Well, I wouldn't resort to that myself (you can check IP's ), but whoever out there doing it, thanks
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,17:11

Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:22

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,17:28

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:43

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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Posted by: SupremeBeing on Dec. 02 2004,03:24

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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I just gave you my vote...

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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 02 2004,23:12

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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I just gave you my vote...
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YEAH!
Thanks mate
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Posted by: Louisa on Dec. 03 2004,14:56

haze you're disqualified on the grounds of vote rigging.

You get the booby prize a day out with Alistair on the Texas rodeo
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Posted by: samaritaine on Dec. 04 2004,01:10

Haze. when I vote for you, I expected you to vote for me, not yourself....badrazz.gif.....Gee U go away for a few daze and it all goes to s**t.... But well done the winner. ..... Who ever you maybe.... BTW...Lou sweets not speaking.. .... Also, I like boobies I think they are great. so if you are any going I'll have them please.
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 04 2004,02:42

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haze you're disqualified on the grounds of vote rigging.

You get the booby prize a day out with Alistair on the Texas rodeo
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I did not rig it! It was rigged in my favor (not that it's hard to believe that all those people think I'm hot stuff ! )

The people have spoken Lou, join the masses
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 04 2004,02:45

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Haze. when I vote for you, I expected you to vote for me, not yourself....badrazz.gif.....Gee U go away for a few daze and it all goes to s**t.... But well done the winner. ..... Who ever you maybe.... BTW...Lou sweets not speaking.. .... Also, I like boobies I think they are great. so if you are any going I'll have them please.
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Ya pasha I would have voted for you if I hadn't nulled my vote on the first day

I figured this should be strictly for the ladies to decide at first, but turns out the guys also play a major role there
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 04 2004,14:44

Exactly Haze, I think you got the male vote. Now what does that say about you
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Posted by: emeerza on Dec. 04 2004,17:01

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Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
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it was a haaaaarrrrd haaaaarrrrd decision but in the end, you got my vote haze, and it was'nt a sympathy vote either sweetie pie

not that you needed it, i see you've won anyway
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-Egypt Mad
+--Forum: General Discussion
+---Topic: EM's Mr Universe started by Louisa
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 25 2004,19:25

All the above have been nominated & we would like to know from each man the reasons why he should win EM Mr Universe, ask yourself the following questions;

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

2) What are your future goals

3) What hobbies do you do

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

7) Are you romantic

8) Can you wire a plug

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 25 2004,19:40

I forgot elmagnoon you can be a late entry
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 25 2004,21:51

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

Nothing

2) What are your future goals

To live a life of self gratification.

3) What hobbies do you do

Chasing women, drinking beer, and playing darts

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

Of course not

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

No, it's the woman's role to please me.

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

Definitely

7) Are you romantic

Yes, you'll always get a peck on the cheek before I roll over after a good shag

8) Can you wire a plug

Yes

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

Yes, but only really hard core

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

No, I'd look daft.

Give up now guys, we have a winner I think
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Posted by: Ayisha on Nov. 25 2004,22:48

can i judge
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Posted by: shisha on Nov. 26 2004,00:05

Ok I voted really shallowley, I voted with a mans mind and just picked the cute one with the six pack.

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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 26 2004,02:32

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1) What have you done in your life that has helped others
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I've done plenty to help other people, sometimes at my own expense unfortunately. To give you an example, I supported my cousins' family for about 3yrs when I was in the Military by giving them money; despite the fact that my parents told me not to.. Later on, I found out why they didn't want me to, because 3yrs later, I haven't gotten back even 1 penny of the thousands of dollars I gave to them!

Oh well, c'est la vie! Plus, I work as a Fireman and EMT, so I help people everytime I go to work, and have saved a few lives here and there..

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2) What are your future goals
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Honestly? I don't really know what I want to do yet. I know that I want to find some way to travel to my hearts' content, and I may try out modeling to see what it can offer me..

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3) What hobbies do you do
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Zoology, History, Computers, Cars, Occult Phenomena, Spiritual Philosophy, and many others..

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4) Can you cook & look after yourself
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I can certainly look after myself, but I can't cook worth a **** unfortunately

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5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please
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I most certainly am. Usually, whatever woman I'm having sex with will have three orgasms before I even have my first. I derive lots of pleasure from giving; especially in a certain way.

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6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)
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Alcohol, food, good music, and good company. Just need those ingredients, and voila! Perfect party!

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7) Are you romantic
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Very much so.. I'm not a hopeless romantic though.

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8) Can you wire a plug
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Yes I can. I'm very good at technical and mechanical work.. Just don't ask me to do any carpentry work

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9) Can you admit to watching porno movies
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Any man that says he's never watched a porno movie, is a freaking liar! So, my answer to this is obviously yes.

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10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown
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Just make sure it's a manly crown, and you've got yourself a deal

~Alistair
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Posted by: Monkeyman on Nov. 26 2004,09:11

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

I must've done something, not quite sure tho.

2) What are your future goals

Get married and raise a family, i'm still hesitant about popping the question tho

3) What hobbies do you do

My favorite past-time hobby is having sex

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

That is an affirmative, i just made appricot crumble last night, out of scratch i might say, no ready made stuff here.

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

I get pleasure out of giving it, it's my duty too as a lover. One smile on my baby's face is worth it, that and it turns me on so much......

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

Na, never been my strong siute, but mi casa esu casa

7) Are you romantic

Yes, to a borderline pathetic point, but it seems to agree with women, so i'm not complaining

8) Can you wire a plug

phhhh....i like to work with my hands.....and tongue, and any limb that can move back and forth.

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

hey, it is very inspirational to your love life, try watching a porn-flick with your partner and see what happens 10 minutes into the movie.

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

no freakin way!!! i will not be paraded like some zoo animal.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,11:59

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All the above have been nominated & we would like to know from each man the reasons why he should win EM Mr Universe, ask yourself the following questions;

1) What have you done in your life that has helped others

2) What are your future goals

3) What hobbies do you do

4) Can you cook & look after yourself

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)

7) Are you romantic

8) Can you wire a plug

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown

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1) When I talk to people I usually manage to cheer them up.

2) Get some sleep.

3) Usually swimming, at the moment sleeping in lectures.

4) Have to. Not doing a great job, some days I think I eat cardboard and I don't notice.

5) No. I am an engineer.

6) No. I am an engineer.

7) No. Materialistic.

8) Huh?

9) Who doesn't.

10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,12:11

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10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Well I never, somebody just did

Kimo, I'm seeing you in a tiara, one of those silvery ones
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,12:16

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10) Crown or tiara?

Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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Well I never, somebody just did

Kimo, I'm seeing you in a tiara, one of those silvery ones
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Moll, was it u, did you vote for me huh huh huh huh?
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,12:25

Well you've got TWO votes now, Kimo

But if you REALLY want that tiara, and I know you do, maybe you should brush up on questions 5 and 7
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 26 2004,12:30

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Well you've got TWO votes now, Kimo

But if you REALLY want that tiara, and I know you do, maybe you should brush up on questions 5 and 7
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Okay let's give the standard answers, women like honesty my foot:

5) Around me women always come first.

7) Do bears **** in the wood?
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,13:20

WOW kimo, you've got three votes now!

OK, No 5's an improvement

But No 7 still needs a LITTLE bit of work, want some ideas?
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Posted by: Rapunzel on Nov. 26 2004,13:24

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Come on ya motakhelefeen someone vote for me.
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ok kimo i did vote for you, i was going to vote for sam but couldn't resist the call for the motakhalefeen out there ..
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 26 2004,13:30

Rapunzel, you're seeing it too, aren't you? That silvery tiara perched on his head, the tears in his eyes as he makes his acceptance speech.........
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Posted by: Rapunzel on Nov. 26 2004,13:37

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Rapunzel, you're seeing it too, aren't you? That silvery tiara perched on his head, the tears in his eyes as he makes his acceptance speech.........
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hehehe.. yeah, like it is there before my eyes
" i wanna thank my mom for being there for me all the time.. my dad and my agency.. and all my sweet friends, moll& Dina.. who guided me along the way till i got the crown, and all those who voted for me.. i am sending you all a big hug, you special beebol "

can i puke now ?
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 26 2004,15:04

Glad to see all you guys are taking this seriously

I have already voted I had to vote for Neme - sympathy vote really I mean look at his answers bless him he's so honest

But then look at DP surely this guy is just too PERFECT

As for Kimo well - I think he needs our help girls

Monkeyman not bad for a monkey & I never realised you were such a romantic

It's a tough call ladies
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 26 2004,21:58

I voted Samaritaine cause I love his sense of humour besides I've heard he is good looking.
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 26 2004,22:00

For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 26 2004,22:06

[quote=Louisa,Nov. 25 2004,19:25][/quote]
1) What have you done in your life that has helped others
I make people feel good about themselves

2) What are your future goals
To be a music producer/photgrapher/traveller, sharing experiences with a significant other (I'm still single though, so get in line )

3) What hobbies do you do
See above (not as much as I'd like, still can't afford decent equipment for the music or as traveling as I'd like to do)

4) Can you cook & look after yourself
Yep

5) Are you an attentive lover always eager to please
Oh yeah!

6) Do you know how to put on a good party (perfect host)
Don't have the proper place for it now, but I know how to please

7) Are you romantic
Yep, but I have a grasp on reality

8) Can you wire a plug
With manufacturer instructions

9) Can you admit to watching porno movies
Sure thing, I have no shame whatsoever! But I'm not much into watching this stuff, I'd rather be doing the real thing

10) If you won would you be man enough to wear a crown
And a scepter!
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Posted by: shisha on Nov. 27 2004,01:16

Wait ! I take back my vote, I was to hasty, I did not wait for them to post their CV's!

I re-do my vote to Kimo, bascially becuase he said the GOLDEN words he likes to TALK

whoo hoo never heard a man say that he likes to talk AND he actually makes ppl feel better

you got my vote
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 27 2004,15:50

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For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 28 2004,07:21

wat habbened, I won? Thank you all, you love me you truly love me.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 28 2004,07:25

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------

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For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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SAWWWAAAAH LE-OOOOOOSAAAAR.
I won it fair and square, you know very well that I_am_not_kimo_01 through I_am_not_kimo_06 are established and respected members of EM, so I don't want any of that mudslinging crap. Plus by saying what you said I think you are abusing your admin power, I bet you read my pm's and kill bunnies and beat up little girls and stuff.
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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 28 2004,08:14

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---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------
For the moment Kimo seems to be the winner. Have anyone seen his pic?
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I have seen his pic.
This is obviously a fix, and kimo is creating aliases and voting for himself. He's always been like that, I wouldn't trust him an inch. I think he should be disqualified for his outrageous cheating, and the runner up instated as the winner. Who would that be?
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Oh come on Simon!

Stop being such a "tosser!"

Let Kimo have his moment.

Let us be happy knowing, that in REAL LIFE women throw themselves at us with wreckless abandon

The bad guys always gets "first dibs!"

~Alistair
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Posted by: Ayisha on Nov. 28 2004,11:59

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wat habbened, I won? Thank you all, you love me you truly love me.
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well after much deliberation i had to vote Kimo

coz he has the ability to cry shows he has feelings
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Posted by: Nemesis on Nov. 28 2004,13:05

Your'e right DP.
I'd just like to say, a big thank you to everyone who has supported me, you've all been wonderful, it's been a great campaign, we came so close. I'd also like to (choke) congratulate the winner kimo, he has my full support in his (hopefully short) term as EM Mr Universe, I'm sure is Tiara will suit him.
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Posted by: Zargun on Nov. 28 2004,14:29

I just like to say that although I'm sure you are all gorgeous, I voted for the underdog (i.e. Struggler).

Don't ask me why, maybe I found one of his posts refreshingly honest.
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Posted by: samaritaine on Nov. 28 2004,21:04

Just for u Mo.
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 29 2004,01:34

Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
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Posted by: The_Devil_Prince on Nov. 29 2004,01:59

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Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

LOL
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Hey, that's one more than me, so stop complaining!

And, one that did vote for me, took it back!

The nerve!

Oh well, you know what they say..

Women are fickle!

Thats why you have to string them around

~Alistair
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Posted by: Haze on Nov. 29 2004,02:24

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And, one that did vote for me, took it back!

The nerve!
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You have to admit, that was funny!
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Posted by: STRUGGLER on Nov. 29 2004,02:35

thx a BILLION ,Zargun. Appreciate it BUNCHES.
But u know what guys, i'll vote this time and it'll be for Kimo as this young guy is digging really hard to achieve his goals .
and my best advice to him would be :
Always , Be jealous and NOT envious and this will payoff in the end.
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Posted by: Louisa on Nov. 29 2004,16:34

Kimo we need to see a pic of you wearing your tiara i mean crown

Come on Kimo do it for the girls ........

Kimo, Kimo, Kimo, we love Kimo get your kit off for the girls
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 29 2004,16:38

I hope you realise this sparked off a small domestic incident when my hubby realised I'd voted for kimo....well it was actually a message from beyond, kimo is VERY popular with ex-guinea pigs
So kimo, the very LEAST you can do is show us your tiara
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Posted by: Monkeyman on Nov. 30 2004,03:23

I call for a recount of votes.....

Is Kimo related to G Dubya in anyway?
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:34

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Is Kimo related to G Dubya in anyway?
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Oh man seriously, take that back, I can't even imagine it, brrr.
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:41

Okay here are some pics from my "save the rainforest and stuff" tour as Mr. Universe:
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:42

Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Posted by: kimo_the_maniac on Nov. 30 2004,09:50

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------
I hope you realise this sparked off a small domestic incident when my hubby realised I'd voted for kimo....well it was actually a message from beyond, kimo is VERY popular with ex-guinea pigs
So kimo, the very LEAST you can do is show us your tiara
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Oh Moll, shame on you, how dare you vote for someone else? Will is such a nice guy. Plus you shouldn't vote for someone other than your husband on the Internet, or haven't you learned anything from your little episode in you know where?

Tsk tsk tsk

Will, I voted for me when I had no votes if wouldn't have tied with whatisname if I retracted it I would've given you my vote to correct the sin Moll has wrought
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Posted by: moll on Nov. 30 2004,12:52

What little episode in I don't know where?

Kimo, I voted for my hubby, I am a good wife
But then I got a message from beyond, it was from Patch telling me that you're very big in guinea pig heaven and you should get another vote
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Posted by: Anna on Nov. 30 2004,17:27

Kimo looks to me you're the best!
This is one for King Kimo!
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Posted by: Dee on Nov. 30 2004,22:24

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Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Awwwwww Kimo...I know how much you really meant to post those pix.
You can always email them to me and I'll make sure they get posted!
Maybe I can even photoshop a tiara on the winner's head to add to the effect.
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Posted by: Fil_tarawa on Dec. 01 2004,06:00

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Hey why aren't the pics working, was gonna post some, pretty disappointed
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Awwwwww Kimo...I know how much you really meant to post those pix.
You can always email them to me and I'll make sure they get posted!
Maybe I can even photoshop a tiara on the winner's head to add to the effect.
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ayayay there's a match between kimo and hazhaz!!
may the best man win!

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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,12:33

I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,16:52

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I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
---------------------QUOTE-------------------

Just wondering about the new members on EM, who exactly are i_am_not_haze_01, i_am_not_haze_02, i_am_not_haze_03 etc.
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:03

---------------------QUOTE BEGIN-------------------

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I see the tables are turning.. Interesting
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Just wondering about the new members on EM, who exactly are i_am_not_haze_01, i_am_not_haze_02, i_am_not_haze_03 etc.
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Huh??
I have no idea what that is.. Is someone rigging the contest to my favor?

Well, I wouldn't resort to that myself (you can check IP's ), but whoever out there doing it, thanks
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,17:11

Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:22

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 01 2004,17:28

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 01 2004,17:43

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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Posted by: SupremeBeing on Dec. 02 2004,03:24

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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I just gave you my vote...

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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 02 2004,23:12

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Haze, just kidding you. I can take losing, I'm a good sport
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There's a little angy red ball next to your words that begs to disagree
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Who put that there? You're editing my posts, aren't you?
I'm gonna have to take on dubya tactics if I'm to win this darn thing
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The people have spoken

(well, I still need two more people to speak up and I'm all set!)
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I just gave you my vote...
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YEAH!
Thanks mate
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Posted by: Louisa on Dec. 03 2004,14:56

haze you're disqualified on the grounds of vote rigging.

You get the booby prize a day out with Alistair on the Texas rodeo
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Posted by: samaritaine on Dec. 04 2004,01:10

Haze. when I vote for you, I expected you to vote for me, not yourself....badrazz.gif.....Gee U go away for a few daze and it all goes to s**t.... But well done the winner. ..... Who ever you maybe.... BTW...Lou sweets not speaking.. .... Also, I like boobies I think they are great. so if you are any going I'll have them please.
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 04 2004,02:42

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haze you're disqualified on the grounds of vote rigging.

You get the booby prize a day out with Alistair on the Texas rodeo
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I did not rig it! It was rigged in my favor (not that it's hard to believe that all those people think I'm hot stuff ! )

The people have spoken Lou, join the masses
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Posted by: Haze on Dec. 04 2004,02:45

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Haze. when I vote for you, I expected you to vote for me, not yourself....badrazz.gif.....Gee U go away for a few daze and it all goes to s**t.... But well done the winner. ..... Who ever you maybe.... BTW...Lou sweets not speaking.. .... Also, I like boobies I think they are great. so if you are any going I'll have them please.
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Ya pasha I would have voted for you if I hadn't nulled my vote on the first day

I figured this should be strictly for the ladies to decide at first, but turns out the guys also play a major role there
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Posted by: Nemesis on Dec. 04 2004,14:44

Exactly Haze, I think you got the male vote. Now what does that say about you
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Posted by: emeerza on Dec. 04 2004,17:01

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Three votes? That's what I got? THREE VOTES!

And I even know one of them is a pity vote

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it was a haaaaarrrrd haaaaarrrrd decision but in the end, you got my vote haze, and it was'nt a sympathy vote either sweetie pie

not that you needed it, i see you've won anyway
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Originally posted by TDP:
I think I need a brandy in my coffee?????????????????????

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Don't drink coffee it keeps you awake try so nice camomile tea. I think we all need a nice nap.

Sonomod you really need to think about yourself. I am really boring and uninteresting and if you think searching the net for stories on me is fulfilling you have some issues.

I am so lucky to have had a great life and Egypt is the fulfillment of everything in my past. I have reached my dream, I have made lots of people happy, life is pretty dammed good. If you don't feel like that you really shouldn't waste time attacking me, it makes you look really sad and inadequate. Go out there and make a life, there are some fantastci opportunities. Instead of having a go at me, find yourself, live your life, have some fun. I wish you the best.

Ps any spelling mistakes are a combination of lousy typing and a 60's education lol

And when a kuffir infidel enters a marriage with a Misryan she is a bitch if she isn't contributing to Misr's bottom line in such a vulgar manner, nor is it 'culturally sensitive' to find this sex tourism in bad taste.

Okay so being true and in good heart and mind is a bad thing when it includes a Misryan husband. But its okay to treat Misryan men like whores.

Great God fearing practices never cease to amaze me.

I didn t know kimo is a guy...

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Originally posted by akshar:
Don't drink coffee it keeps you awake try so nice camomile tea. I think we all need a nice nap.

Sonomod you really need to think about yourself. I am really boring and uninteresting and if you think searching the net for stories on me is fulfilling you have some issues.

I am so lucky to have had a great life and Egypt is the fulfillment of everything in my past. I have reached my dream, I have made lots of people happy, life is pretty dammed good. If you don't feel like that you really shouldn't waste time attacking me, it makes you look really sad and inadequate. Go out there and make a life, there are some fantastci opportunities. Instead of having a go at me, find yourself, live your life, have some fun. I wish you the best.

Ps any spelling mistakes are a combination of lousy typing and a 60's education lol

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Your life isn't so damn perfect if you can admit to no flaws whatsoever.

My typing is just fine. My temper isn't.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
Spelling isnt exactly an artform on this or any other forumn.

While your spewing your own attacks for no obvious reason. I haven't attacked you and have no reason. You are validating this sick practice of prostitution.

Sex tourism seems to be a mainstay on this forumn.

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Typing mistakes are one thing but your errors are all the same, which means you don't know how to spell. Even in this post: "while your spewing..." It's YOU'RE as in YOU ARE. Don't claim to be educated when you can't even spell simple words.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
i don't understand why vast majority of this forum or other forums need to revolve around Misr as a sex tourist destination.

And when a kuffir infidel enters a marriage with a Misryan she is a bitch if she isn't contributing to Misr's bottom line in such a vulgar manner, nor is it 'culturally sensitive' to find this sex tourism in bad taste.

Okay so being true and in good heart and mind is a bad thing when it includes a Misryan husband. But its okay to treat Misryan men like whores.

Great God fearing practices never cease to amaze me.

Doesn't Misr want anything better?

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Originally posted by PRchick:
Typing mistakes are one thing but your errors are all the same, which means you don't know how to spell. Even in this post: "while your spewing..." It's YOU'RE as in YOU ARE. Don't claim to be educated when you can't even spell simple words.

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get over my spelling mistakes, I don't care. Your trying your best to divert from the facts and colliding opinions of the matter.

You are so willing to defend sex tourism, perverted Islamic juriprudence enforced by illiterates, and a entire bridgade of ugly, useless, old hags with nothing to live for in their country of origin.

To further the matter, only 15% of Europeans actually have some sort of post-secondary education. Compared to almost 40% of USA, and 28% of Americans and permenant residents who have a bachelors degree you are not one to critize me.

I highly doubt either of yous attempted nor completed a degree of any sort. And education is not just within a college environment. Intellectual curiousity amoung sex tourist is a damning proof of low mindedness in all areas.

I haven't seen many postings or responses to postings other than romantic failures, or what the heck is wrong with Misryan men or Western women. Human rights postings are even falling short of any depth.

This was only an information that I have obtained , many of us we want to know about the difference of types of marriage that exists in Egypt, as well as also not to go for the incorrect way, not to sin for ignorance.

My intention was not to bother anybody with this topic.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
get over my spelling mistakes, I don't care. Your trying your best to divert from the facts and colliding opinions of the matter.

You are so willing to defend sex tourism, perverted Islamic juriprudence enforced by illiterates, and a entire bridgade of ugly, useless, old hags with nothing to live for in their country of origin.

To further the matter, only 15% of Europeans actually have some sort of post-secondary education. Compared to almost 40% of USA, and 28% of Americans and permenant residents who have a bachelors degree you are not one to critize me.

I highly doubt either of yous attempted nor completed a degree of any sort. And education is not just within a college environment. Intellectual curiousity amoung sex tourist is a damning proof of low mindedness in all areas.

I haven't seen many postings or responses to postings other than romantic failures, or what the heck is wrong with Misryan men or Western women. Human rights postings are even falling short of any depth.

And you cannot give advice on inter-cultural relationships, when you don't have a real relationship to begin with.

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I am an American, Sonomod, and I have an advanced degree, thank you very much. So, yes, I can criticize.

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Originally posted by Danielab:
Oh ......This topic caused a revolution.

This was only an information that I have obtained , many of us we want to know about the difference of types of marriage that exists in Egypt, as well as also not to go for the incorrect way, not to sin for ignorance.

My intention was not to bother anybody with this topic.

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Feeding off of ignorance is a common trait of colonists. It continues to this day.

And your original post is just a small portion of what pertains to this exploited practice.

Besides the mountain of fatwas that ride on the wind affirming the practice to populate Islam or to beef up a industry's bottom line.

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Originally posted by PRchick:
I am an American, Sonomod, and I have an advanced degree, thank you very much. So, yes, I can criticize.

[This message has been edited by PRchick (edited 13 December 2004).]

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Advanced degrees have been had and obtained with very little effort and very little stretch to ones moral inaptitude.

I have no idea why you would support the weakest, most vile application of greed through religion.

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Originally posted by sonomod:

Man I wish soundvision.com had kept their forum up. I could flood you with some very potent remarks.

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I have heard enough potent remarks for one day thank you very much!! Be happy.

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Originally posted by sonomod:
Advanced degrees have been had and obtained with very little effort and very little stretch to ones moral inaptitude.

I have no idea why you would support the weakest, most vile application of greed through religion.

But of course that has been presented time and time again through your posts.

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So, when you want to make YOUR point, a degree is the be all, end all, but when someone else has a degree, it doesn't matter? That makes no sense.

You don't seem very religious to me so what's your beef?

To further the matter, only 15% of Europeans actually have some sort of post-secondary education. Compared to almost 40% of USA, and 28% of Americans and permenant residents who have a bachelors degree you are not one to critize me.

So... 85% of Europeans are stupid. LOL!!!!!

Can t we finally stop with all these prejudices and attacs??? We are all humans... we all have the same wish, to be happy!!! Let s live in peace!!!!!

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Originally posted by PRchick:
So, when you want to make YOUR point, a degree is the be all, end all, but when someone else has a degree, it doesn't matter? That makes no sense.

You don't seem very religious to me so what's your beef?

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Advanced degrees have been had and obtained with very little effort and very little stretch to ones moral inaptitude.
See your spin doctoring continues.

No I am not very religious. I find that humans just use it to justify some abhorent behavior or make a deranged fantasy world. Always in the beginning of a new faith it brings people together after that???!!!

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Originally posted by Nike:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sonomod:

To further the matter, only 15% of Europeans actually have some sort of post-secondary education. Compared to almost 40% of USA, and 28% of Americans and permenant residents who have a bachelors degree you are not one to critize me.

So... 85% of Europeans are stupid. LOL!!!!!

Can t we finally stop with all these prejudices and attacs??? We are all humans... we all have the same wish, to be happy!!! Let s live in peace!!!!!

Sweet dreams to all of you
Nike

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No actually I wasn't implying that European are inferior to Americans. Actually Europeans continueously refer to Americans as inferior on this board and everywhere else.

What I am trying to articulate is European government sees to use to having a academically conditioned population. And I have watched a load of European nightly news reports. Too many references to the outside world being inferior to Europe to count. This sense of conditioning happens in America as well. Though through academic conditioning which teaches and encourages a more liberal if not 'critical thinking' outlook which in turn defeats this colonist attitude.

Europe has a clear socail caste system. Rarely does a person whose parents didn't obtain a post-secondary education obtain a education themselves. Which is the opposite in America. Your education can be covered by grants entirely if neither of your parents were ever educated in a post-secondary institution.

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Originally posted by Shareen:
Lmao...... why is it that some people like to talk out of their backsides?

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mmm... what does it mean: Lmao?

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Originally posted by Shareen:
Lmao...... why is it that some people like to talk out of their backsides?

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Its my opinion and I consider Europeans to have a long way to go yet.

I don't think its even part of the continental perogative to impart on acculturation. The world is a destination voyage for commerce and tourism.

I would like to think that the main midset of Americans who leave their borders are in friendship.