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That decision was made a few years ago when a girl suddenly started appearing in niqab. It led to an uprising and everyone was condemning AUC for not applying its freedom of expression policy and not allowing people to practice their religion.
That girl filed a lawsuit and she won and she walked around for sometime. I don't see her anymore though.
I actually wrote about it in the university paper once. Everyone started attacking the university for that decision in the paper, I decided to attack them back. I was furious at these people just nagging and cursing without even thinking about the situation. Discussions are supposed to be done in a civilized manner and people should think before responding based on pure emotions. They didn't consider that it was a security measure, otherwise we'd have people who have nothing to do with AUC wearing niqab and pretending to be students walking in free for whatever reason.
Another point is that the niqab rule also exists at Cairo University, and no one says anything, but just because it's called the "American University", it becomes evil for trying to apply the same policy.
And from a religious point of view, niqab is not a fard (requirement) in Islam for God's sake.
I don't know what the situation is now, but I haven't seen any monaqqabas there for a while now.
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Very interesting Focus, so you don't see any of them there for a while now? I understand you are an AUC student right, and have been there recently?
Amazing! I mean more than 90% of the Egyptian women are now veiled or wearing some kind of head cover due to the reasons we know, most importantly to hold a low profile in order not to be harassed in the streets.
But I always thought Monaqqabat are often depressed! They want NOTHING to with the society any more. No contact whatsoever, except of course for the absolute necessities.
My youngest sister is refusing to marry this son of one of the Egyptian "Alpha" families who looks like Wael Kafoury (for God's sake , I would marry ommoh (his mother) if it was allowed to have two husbands), only because his sister is monaqqabah!!!
One dumbass once called the Egyptian TV, during a program hosted by this chubby female religious leader who wears "only" a headscarf, and asked her if it was 7aram NOT to wear a niqab.
Are our daughters/sisters getting depressed due to being oppressed?
quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari: But I always thought Monaqqabat are often depressed! They want NOTHING to with the society any more. No contact whatsoever, except of course for the absolute necessities.
I hate the niqab.... the sight of women wearing niqab in the streets or anywhere scares the sh!t out of me.
quote:Originally posted by cinematic: I hate the niqab.... the sight of women wearing niqab in the streets or anywhere scares the sh!t out of me.
I too get very scared of it. Imagine the kids then!
I remember once very long time ago, in the Abdel Wahab Motawe3 mail in his weekly page of Bareed el-Ahram, there was a letter from a Monaqqaba lady who was forced by her husband to wear the Niqab. She said the worst thing she experiences in her daily life, is how some kids scream and run away when they see her in the street.
I mean everyone is entitled to wear what they choose, but the least form of showing respect to others is to show your face when you're talking with someone.
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So, I think those faithful women shouldn't join this AUC due to lack of freedom there
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LOL...I dunno most of the niqabis I saw in Egypt were quite large and from what I could gather through their "peep hole" they weren't that attractive. I thought...what the hell are they covering? Maybe they were hiding their unattractiveness.
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Some scholars see that Covering the face is obligatory . Others see it's Sunna and not obligatory...
I think we cant impose women to do it or not. If they choose it themselves, we shouldnot force them to take it off.
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oh what you think i am QUEEN KONG ,AND YOUR MY MAIDEN im no lesbian ,,heheheheh,,,but you can hang out in my bonzai tree
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posted 07 September, 2006 12:03 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh shite! You're right I just insulted three groups...old, fat and Egyptians...yikes! No harm intended *hiding behind Chimps*
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quote:Originally posted by cinematic: I have a silly question . Do members here rate each other? If I am popular I get more stars in my rating or what? please explain
Yes we can rate each other. So the hyenas have seriously taken the effort to look up my profile and rate me.
Gatkoo neela go rate yourselves in the mirror!! Posts: 8756 | From: Tax-Free Zone | Registered: Jul 2005
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Yeah you can rate members. By the looks of it someone didn't like something that you said. You can also hide your rating. Just go to your profile.
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I have a silly question . Do members here rate each other? If I am popular I get more stars in my rating or what? please explain
I have a silly question . Do members here rate each other? If I am popular I get more stars in my rating or what? please explain
rated y ou a five now you better rate me ,,hahahahahahaha im lost a star ohhhhhhh so sad ,,,not bothered really ,i know im 5stars any way ...
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quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
quote:Originally posted by cinematic: I have a silly question . Do members here rate each other? If I am popular I get more stars in my rating or what? please explain
Yes we can rate each other. So the hyenas have seriously taken the effort to look up my profile and rate me.
Gatkoo neela go rate yourselves in the mirror!!
i cant rate you cus it doesnt say for me to rate you i think i rated you before you was kindly disem bowed ,,but your a top 5 for me any way sweetheart ,,i hope ur fine ,, Posts: 4597 | Registered: Jun 2006
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quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
quote:Originally posted by cinematic: I have a silly question . Do members here rate each other? If I am popular I get more stars in my rating or what? please explain
Yes we can rate each other. So the hyenas have seriously taken the effort to look up my profile and rate me.
Gatkoo neela go rate yourselves in the mirror!!
i cant rate you cus it doesnt say for me to rate you i think i rated you before you was kindly disem bowed ,,but your a top 5 for me any way sweetheart ,,i hope ur fine ,,
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quote:Originally posted by focus683: That decision was made a few years ago when a girl suddenly started appearing in niqab. It led to an uprising and everyone was condemning AUC for not applying its freedom of expression policy and not allowing people to practice their religion.
That girl filed a lawsuit and she won and she walked around for sometime. I don't see her anymore though.
I actually wrote about it in the university paper once. Everyone started attacking the university for that decision in the paper, I decided to attack them back. I was furious at these people just nagging and cursing without even thinking about the situation. Discussions are supposed to be done in a civilized manner and people should think before responding based on pure emotions. They didn't consider that it was a security measure, otherwise we'd have people who have nothing to do with AUC wearing niqab and pretending to be students walking in free for whatever reason.
Another point is that the niqab rule also exists at Cairo University, and no one says anything, but just because it's called the "American University", it becomes evil for trying to apply the same policy.
And from a religious point of view, niqab is not a fard (requirement) in Islam for God's sake.
I don't know what the situation is now, but I haven't seen any monaqqabas there for a while now.
Are you sure it's not allowed in Cairo University? I have seen girls in both Cairo and Ain Shams university who are in Niqab and from what I know they have like a woman among security staff who checks those Niqabi gurls inside the security office. Same happens during exams too.
Doesn't seem to me like a big obstacle to overcome.
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well speaking og niqab hav u seen these ladies drive????? the cars seem lik they r driven by ghosts...this really freaks me aout but wen u get closer u just see the shine of ther white eyeballs thro the blak background that haunts ya wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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hahaha i saw one the other time i was in egypt she was riding a moter bike she looked like a ninga turtle .... ohhhhhhhhh imagine arresting one and finding she is NAKED OHHHHHHHHHHH he get a grin wudnt he
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salaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaams bebi hows are yah ..im not long gotin from wrk and me sittinghere wif me cup of tea and chilling gonna go on amin tired ....
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With all due respect, I find it a little off putting the mocking of these women. In my opinion, it is fine if you don't like this style or agree to it, but if we are about respecting women (however we define it) insulting how they 'probably' look is similar to mocking someone for being fat or whatever. So maybe someone doesn't like niqab, niqabbis don't like shorts. Does that mean they should be judging someone wearing shorts? No, of course not - people would find it insulting. Tolerance is a two way street.
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quote:Originally posted by ThePinkCamel: With all due respect, I find it a little off putting the mocking of these women. In my opinion, it is fine if you don't like this style or agree to it, but if we are about respecting women (however we define it) insulting how they 'probably' look is similar to mocking someone for being fat or whatever. So maybe someone doesn't like niqab, niqabbis don't like shorts. Does that mean they should be judging someone wearing shorts? No, of course not - people would find it insulting. Tolerance is a two way street.
I agree about having to show mutual respect. But many Monaqqabas think they are saints and DO look down on those who are veiled without a niqab, let alone those who wear shorts.
I also didn't really start this thread to mock monaqqabas or ask what people think of the Niqab. But you know how it goes on ES.
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dont bother me if u want cover ur mutt ,i used to but im defined if i do it again ,but repsect to them if they feel the need to do for there own values not for any one else .... BUT WHO HERE IS EGYPTIAN AND NOT WESTERN OR UROPEAN MARRIED TO EGYPTIAN ,CAUSE IFIND THE WAY OF ALL THE RELIGION AND THE CULTURE WAY YOU LIVE IS FAR DIFFERENT TO EGYPTIAN WOMAN ,,WHY DO MEN IN THE END PICK A WESTERN OR A EUROPEAN WOMAN IN STEAD OF HIS OWN FORGET LOVE AND FORGET THE VISA ,WHAT ATTRACTS THEM TO US AND FOR US THE NEED TO COMPLY AND CHANGE ..
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Hi all i am new to your form Just one quick question Are you all muslims? ok well i am from america here to learn arabic for me and my children alhamdulillah as of right now i live in cairo in madeenatu nasr city i am looking to learn this place like where to go.. I have children so i need to know where to get children stuff like arts and craft things for school i homeschool my children so if anyone could help id greatly apperciate it thanks well its nice hearing from you all Ma Salaams NuriQueen
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quote:Originally posted by NuriQueenfiAmerica: Hi all i am new to your form Just one quick question Are you all muslims? ok well i am from america here to learn arabic for me and my children alhamdulillah as of right now i live in cairo in madeenatu nasr city i am looking to learn this place like where to go.. I have children so i need to know where to get children stuff like arts and craft things for school i homeschool my children so if anyone could help id greatly apperciate it thanks well its nice hearing from you all Ma Salaams NuriQueen
Simple, any store carrefour maadi for example
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I am not sure what you are looking for exactly. There is a store across the street from the Genena mall in medinat nasr that has school supplies - but I don't really know what you are looking for.
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quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari: Good question!
How old is the GUC anyway? (that's The German University in Cairo)
I think it will be three years this fall.
There is no law in Germany that prohibits people from entering a university wearing a niqab. I don't know about GUC, but I would assume it's allowed there.
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quote:Originally posted by NuriQueenfiAmerica: Hi all i am new to your form Just one quick question Are you all muslims? ok well i am from america here to learn arabic for me and my children alhamdulillah as of right now i live in cairo in madeenatu nasr city i am looking to learn this place like where to go.. I have children so i need to know where to get children stuff like arts and craft things for school i homeschool my children so if anyone could help id greatly apperciate it thanks well its nice hearing from you all Ma Salaams NuriQueen
Simple, any store carrefour maadi for example
I hope you are home-schooling your children in Arabic because your english is terrible, spelling and punctuation.
If you cant write a gramatically sound sentence please send them to a proper school.
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quote:Originally posted by CairoStudent: I hope you are home-schooling your children in Arabic because your english is terrible, spelling and punctuation.
If you cant write a gramatically sound sentence please send them to a proper school.
You should see the UK ones among us!
They're the reason why I decided not to immigrate to England.
Obviously it's impossible for a child living in the UK to learn proper English!
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quote:Originally posted by NuriQueenfiAmerica: Hi all i am new to your form Just one quick question Are you all muslims? ok well i am from america here to learn arabic for me and my children alhamdulillah as of right now i live in cairo in madeenatu nasr city i am looking to learn this place like where to go.. I have children so i need to know where to get children stuff like arts and craft things for school i homeschool my children so if anyone could help id greatly apperciate it thanks well its nice hearing from you all Ma Salaams NuriQueen
Nuri, please PM me. I PMed you but you don't see it I think.
I think my cousin can help you.
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quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
quote:Originally posted by CairoStudent: I hope you are home-schooling your children in Arabic because your english is terrible, spelling and punctuation.
If you cant write a gramatically sound sentence please send them to a proper school.
You should see the UK ones among us! i feel thats the same when you want to learn arabic its visa versa what you need to see the context of english im brought here up all of my life and english upper and lower i cannot understand in the middle its too to to posh but i feel this is the same in arabic when your being taught it ,no arabic is the same that changes in regions has well ..
They're the reason why I decided not to immigrate to England.
Obviously it's impossible for a child living in the UK to learn proper English!
quote:Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
quote:Originally posted by CairoStudent: I hope you are home-schooling your children in Arabic because your english is terrible, spelling and punctuation.
If you cant write a gramatically sound sentence please send them to a proper school.
You should see the UK ones among us! i feel thats the same when you want to learn arabic its visa versa what you need to see the context of english im brought here up all of my life and english upper and lower i cannot understand in the middle its too to to posh but i feel this is the same in arabic when your being taught it ,no arabic is the same that changes in regions has well ..
They're the reason why I decided not to immigrate to England.
Obviously it's impossible for a child living in the UK to learn proper English!
هيه جت فيكي يا حاجة استلمي بقا يا كشري
kOSHARY, THE BULLET REACHED CHIMPSS. I THINK U R NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PACKAGE, CHIMPSS
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ESPLAIN AND STOP TAKING THE MICKY OUT OF ME ,I HAVE NO PERSONAL GRIEVANCE WITH MK ;NEVE RHAVED ONE SHES OF SOUND MIND HAS FAR AS IM CONCERNED IM AGREE IN MANY ASPECTS BUT IT APPLYS BOTH WAYS TO LEARN ARABIC HERE IS NOT GOOD ITS DIFFERENT IN MANY WAYS AND EVEN IN EGYPT ITS DIFFERENT AND EVEN TO ARAB EGYPTIAN TALKING TO A SAUDI AND MORROCAN SOME CANHAVE PROBLEMS AND BY THE WAY THE THREAD ABOVES IS MESSED UP THE BOTTOM LINES MK WROTE NOT I ,THANKYOU ,AND YES IT IT DONT APPLY TO ME CUS IM BETTER THAN YOU EGYPTIAN _BATMAN
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quote:Originally posted by cHiMpSs: ESPLAIN AND STOP TAKING THE MICKY OUT OF ME ,I HAVE NO PERSONAL GRIEVANCE WITH MK ;NEVE RHAVED ONE SHES OF SOUND MIND HAS FAR AS IM CONCERNED IM AGREE IN MANY ASPECTS BUT IT APPLYS BOTH WAYS TO LEARN ARABIC HERE IS NOT GOOD ITS DIFFERENT IN MANY WAYS AND EVEN IN EGYPT ITS DIFFERENT AND EVEN TO ARAB EGYPTIAN TALKING TO A SAUDI AND MORROCAN SOME CANHAVE PROBLEMS AND BY THE WAY THE THREAD ABOVES IS MESSED UP THE BOTTOM LINES MK WROTE NOT I ,THANKYOU ,AND YES IT IT DONT APPLY TO ME CUS IM BETTER THAN YOU EGYPTIAN _BATMAN
Easy easy Chimps, this is Egyptian humor, he was very much joking!
That's a typical situation of trans-cultural misunderstandings on the board.
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