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[QUOTE]Originally posted by newcomer: [QB] I think part of the problem of many foreigners in Egypt not learning Arabic well, either to speak it or to read and write is partly due to the fact that so many Egyptians do speak English and so the necessity to learn is diminished. After all, the purpose of language is to communicate and if most of the people you come into contact with speak English to some degree or other, what is the incentive in daily life to learn Egyptian, apart from for shopping or taxis where you aren’t always likely to meet people who can understand English? The other people who will need to learn it will be those who have married Egyptians if the family doesn’t speak English, other than that, for daily life the is no great necessity in the major cities to learn Egyptian, Egypt makes it too easy for us. But as we can get by without it, it does mean that we are excluded from many parts of Egyptian life too. The other problem is that to learn Arabic for a foreigner requires learning two languages, classical and Egyptian. So most people often learn how to speak, or to read and write, but not both, and so they never become fully functional in Arabic. I have been learning classical Arabic for several years and I get by on that, as at the beginning of my learning I didn’t know which dialect would be most useful for me. With my classical Arabic I get the gist of most conversations in Egyptian, but I can’t answer in it other than to add a few words in with my classical Arabic! But now I am at the stage where I need to take my Arabic further, like 7aya, and I need to learn to use it in a practical way to write, but I also need to improve my reading skills too. But the way classical Arabic is usually taught, the focus is too much on the grammar and dissecting the language, rather than on how to put it together in a comprehensible form and comprehending it. To me it is really sad that the use of Arabic has declined to the extent it has. Arabs have moved away from the classical Arabic and use their own dialects to communicate, which puts barriers between the different Arab countries, and with fewer people understanding/using classical Arabic it not only takes them away from a common means of communicating to each other, but also takes them a step further away from their religion. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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