As i write it....i am being bothered here online... by a man who once took me out to a private beach for the day, and for dinner... Now he won't leave me alone and is doing his best to worm his way back into my life...And wait for it girls...
His oh so romantic chat up line is... iv'e got 20 condoms....HUH! so what? HOW PRESUMPTIOUS OF HIM!
Honestly... i tend to keep myself to myself and choose generally, not to socialise...especially with Egyptian men here while living in Egypt. I HAVE SOME GREAT EGYPTIAN WOMEN FRIENDS THOUGH! I'm not going to expand any further..Much stuff on this subject has already been posted before me.
Some intelligent feminine input would be appreciated though. thx in advance.
Hold on, one good friend just called me an hour ago and I was so happy to hear from him again. I know him for almost 11 years, I befriended with him shortly after I arrived in Egypt. He is still so proud to tell everyone he teached me English.
Well, he lives for years now in Germany too. We didn't speak to each other in a good 8 months but hey it was nice to hear from him again. 
Poppy, I am not sure, if this was an intelligent input from my side but you see things are not impossible even if it takes some time to find.
[This message has been edited by Tigerlily (edited 27 July 2005).]
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Originally posted by poppy:
The tittle of this post is self explanitory......As i write it....i am being bothered here online... by a man who once took me out to a private beach for the day, and for dinner... Now he won't leave me alone and is doing his best to worm his way back into my life...And wait for it girls...
His oh so romantic chat up line is... iv'e got 20 condoms....HUH! so what? HOW PRESUMPTIOUS OF HIM!
Honestly... i tend to keep myself to myself and choose generally, not to socialise...especially with Egyptian men here while living in Egypt. I HAVE SOME GREAT EGYPTIAN WOMEN FRIENDS THOUGH! I'm not going to expand any further..Much stuff on this subject has already been posted before me.
Some intelligent feminine input would be appreciated though. thx in advance.
I find blackmail always gets them to back off.
find out where he lives and start spreading the word (or threaten to spread the word) about his reputation and how advances towards you.
). Anyway, I meant only for friendship, being with someone together who shares the same interests, doing things together, anything except fondling, kissing, sex etc. So it was very difficult to find a male Egyptian who didn't try to get me in the bed sooner or later on. I had a quite few dissappointments. I am sure I made myself clear this time, sorry if it came out the wrong way. But see it this way, a non-native English speaker is always good for a joke, right. Thanks god, my husband doesn't read the crap I write, I would be under investigation about my past now.
Again, good morning, everyone!
I mean you find a sympathic, non-pushy male individual who shares the same interests with you, is helpful, you have many laughs together and then ......... oh oh, here we go again. Frustrating, isn't it?
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Originally posted by poppy:
Do u mean in a mental, physical or psychological way.... the distance i mean.
Or all of the above combined? thx BTW Sharon S
Physical Distance is your best shield. It's better to prevent it then to fix it after the circumastances are against you. Don't allow a man to physically invade your space and get close physically in public places or anywhere even if he is your friend because he has no business invading your comfort zone. This is your right, otherwise he is harrassing you.
Especially in front of other people, because other guys see how you react, then they want to do the same.
and you have full right to react on his first attempt because you got to show him immediately that you are not accepting it. What he thinks of you is irrelevant. 
If he thinks that you are easy or stupid, he will soon discover that he has no chance with you and he will look for another weaker person.
It's important that you don't compromise or give in under pressure of friendship or whatever is the case. Better don't put yourself in that situation and he will have no chance.
I usually have a few male friends who are "bad boys" and will kick his ass - no questions asked. The life is much more interesting when you have friends who explain the 'respect' in the language that these boring guys can understand and if that means kicking his ass only one time, believe me they got it immediately.
The nice guy would not hit on a woman who clearly shows him that she is not into him. And if the laws are not strict in certain countries, believe me guys would do it even more. Because they can. Simple as that.
). If he persists, block his IM, chnage the phone number, and if that does not work consider Sharon's advice to involve few close friends who happened to be pumped-up thugs.. If that fails, maybe police could talk him into some senses after he leaves the hospital. Anyway good luck and keep us posted.
But in case he has another intention, one or two condoms is reasonable but what kind of a thing this guy has which needs 20 condoms? Sounds very scary!
[This message has been edited by Troubles101 (edited 28 July 2005).]
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Originally posted by poppy:
The tittle of this post is self explanitory......As i write it....i am being bothered here online... by a man who once took me out to a private beach for the day, and for dinner... Now he won't leave me alone and is doing his best to worm his way back into my life...And wait for it girls...
His oh so romantic chat up line is... iv'e got 20 condoms....HUH! so what? HOW PRESUMPTIOUS OF HIM!
Honestly... i tend to keep myself to myself and choose generally, not to socialise...especially with Egyptian men here while living in Egypt. I HAVE SOME GREAT EGYPTIAN WOMEN FRIENDS THOUGH! I'm not going to expand any further..Much stuff on this subject has already been posted before me.
Some intelligent feminine input would be appreciated though. thx in advance.
well ,if you really need to keep them away, then wear a wedding ring .
if they keep treating you in the same manner , then something isn't right ,whether in the place you meet guys OR you are too damn sexy to be resisted - and you will know what to do
I got to know this guy via this site from one of my posts and we've only communicated via email and smses.
We were supposed to meet one evening but I cancelled it 'coz he keeps insisting that he wants to take me out to some place that I haven't even heard of, instead of going to be public place like a cafe in a mall.
Of course I said no. Like hell I was going to get into some stranger's car in the late evening and be driven to goodness knows where.
Then next thing I know, he smses me and asks if I wanted to have an affair with him.
I find this totally incredulous. Can't decide if I'm slightly traumatised by how easy he thinks I am or to laugh this off as a very desperate attempt on his part to get laid.
Anyway, since I've been rather careful with my personal details, I know that I can sleep easy. But must say that it does leave a little bit of a bitter taste to do with Cairo.. Sad, sad...
Oh, btw, I am not going to generalise this incident and say that all Egyptian men are desperados but I definitely going to be on my toes around them.
Troubles, are u a commedienne??? no i don't think he is a condom salesman lol.
OMG! i hate women demoralising and cheapening themselves by doing this!!!
AHA! hope u enjoyed ur sundae! maybe one day we can meet up for sundae's together!!!
You can also throw in that you would not sleep with him if human existense depended on it and that quite frankly you do actually have taste...
I really understand the hassle you people get from Egyptian guyz. and I know that it is really annoying and I know that it is true to that most of people confuse normal friendship with sexual relationship.
but just take a deeper look everytime you've been annoyed by an egyptian.
99% of the time you'll find them uneducated, unemployed, from the lower class, between the mid 20's and mid 30's
That is because it is impossible to even touch a local girl's hand from their social class. and they have that idea that "know a foreign girl today be in bed with her tomorrow" (I do not agree with them)
When you're asked by an egyptian man to marry him always put into you consideration if he's intending to marry you to travel to your country. If he's poor and uneducated he probably wants to marry u just to find a better opportunity in your homeland. so take care.
anyways, I am sure that there are a lot of egyptian males that would really like to make a nice and honest friendships with a foreign girl. but the problem that you can not just see them easily because they are not always following and annoying.
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Originally posted by odiab84:
Hey all, would you like to listen to an egyptian's point of view (male)I really understand the hassle you people get from Egyptian guyz. and I know that it is really annoying and I know that it is true to that most of people confuse normal friendship with sexual relationship.
but just take a deeper look everytime you've been annoyed by an egyptian.
99% of the time you'll find them uneducated, unemployed, from the lower class, between the mid 20's and mid 30's
That is because it is impossible to even touch a local girl's hand from their social class. and they have that idea that "know a foreign girl today be in bed with her tomorrow" (I do not agree with them)
When you're asked by an egyptian man to marry him always put into you consideration if he's intending to marry you to travel to your country. If he's poor and uneducated he probably wants to marry u just to find a better opportunity in your homeland. so take care.
anyways, I am sure that there are a lot of egyptian males that would really like to make a nice and honest friendships with a foreign girl. but the problem that you can not just see them easily because they are not always following and annoying.
your viewpoint is most welcome!
I understand about the social restrictions and classism in Egypt. I have had 1st hand experience of 'marriage for visa' although i believe there was a mutual love, or i would not have entered it. Although he was from the middle east, but not Egyptian, So i am unlikely to make the same mistakes twice, i hope!
BUT it was your last paragraph that made me think the deepest... Thx for ur wise words.
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Originally posted by odiab84:
99% of the time you'll find them uneducated, unemployed, from the lower class, between the mid 20's and mid 30's
So, now I was reading this or similar statements couple of times on this board. AND THIS IS SO UNTRUE!!!!!!
I met in clubs many guys, well-educated (some of them even studied overseas), guys who were traveling abroad and experienced different countries and still they were trying the easy way with women, straight forward.
I just think its because the culture in Egypt, in Muslimic countries in general, is different. Sex in general is not easy to get. Guys are more desperate for some fun. I just think they are so happy if they link up with a foreign girl that for them its like winning the jackpot.
Often I was annoyed about cheap advances from men but I must also admit that Egyptians are great to flirt. I mean if I was interested I would look back etc. but if not the guy should have realized, don't you think? If you as a foreign gal look twice at an Egyptian man this means for him he's good to go. So be careful!
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Originally posted by Tigerlily:
So, now I was reading this or similar statements couple of times on this board. AND THIS IS SO UNTRUE!!!!!!I met in clubs many guys, well-educated (some of them even studied overseas), guys who were traveling abroad and experienced different countries and still they were trying the easy way with women, straight forward.
I just think its because the culture in Egypt, in Muslimic countries in general, is different. Sex in general is not easy to get. Guys are more desperate for some fun. I just think they are so happy if they link up with a foreign girl that for them its like winning the jackpot.
Often I was annoyed about cheap advances from men but I must also admit that Egyptians are great to flirt. I mean if I was interested I would look back etc. but if not the guy should have realized, don't you think? If you as a foreign gal look twice at an Egyptian man this means for him he's good to go. So be careful!
[This message has been edited by Tigerlily (edited 29 July 2005).]
Yes thx for the tip jannah, i think i'm beginning to realise this is very true! I try never to look at any of them....
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Originally posted by emmy_femmy:
U know, hardly 2 weeks here and I've already gotten propositioned! I find it unbelievable.I got to know this guy via this site from one of my posts and we've only communicated via email and smses.
We were supposed to meet one evening but I cancelled it 'coz he keeps insisting that he wants to take me out to some place that I haven't even heard of, instead of going to be public place like a cafe in a mall.
Of course I said no. Like hell I was going to get into some stranger's car in the late evening and be driven to goodness knows where.
Then next thing I know, he smses me and asks if I wanted to have an affair with him.
I find this totally incredulous. Can't decide if I'm slightly traumatised by how easy he thinks I am or to laugh this off as a very desperate attempt on his part to get laid.
Anyway, since I've been rather careful with my personal details, I know that I can sleep easy. But must say that it does leave a little bit of a bitter taste to do with Cairo.. Sad, sad...
Oh, btw, I am not going to generalise this incident and say that all Egyptian men are desperados but I definitely going to be on my toes around them.
I cant beleive my eyes, i am completely stunned, I am a God fearing Muslim n never had sex in my life thoiugh I am 30, cause was never married n all i did was that o asked ya to meet ,e down town for i thought u were in Continental in the down town when u told me u stay in the "continental" the one that popped up to my head is that one i see every day....in down town. OH GOD WHAT IS THE HELL IS THAT .ALL I WANTED IS TO MAKE AN OVERSEAS FREIND N THEN I GET SCANDALIZED THAT TERRIBLE WAY ?...WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE YOU ?????????? N WHAT CAR WOULD I PUT YOU IN ??? YOU SHOULD BE PUT IN MENTAL HOUSE..YOU ARE PLAINLY SO SICKKKKKKK DAMN DAMN DAMN
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Originally posted by emmy_femmy:
U know, hardly 2 weeks here and I've already gotten propositioned! I find it unbelievable.I got to know this guy via this site from one of my posts and we've only communicated via email and smses.
We were supposed to meet one evening but I cancelled it 'coz he keeps insisting that he wants to take me out to some place that I haven't even heard of, instead of going to be public place like a cafe in a mall.
Of course I said no. Like hell I was going to get into some stranger's car in the late evening and be driven to goodness knows where.
Then next thing I know, he smses me and asks if I wanted to have an affair with him.
I find this totally incredulous. Can't decide if I'm slightly traumatised by how easy he thinks I am or to laugh this off as a very desperate attempt on his part to get laid.
Anyway, since I've been rather careful with my personal details, I know that I can sleep easy. But must say that it does leave a little bit of a bitter taste to do with Cairo.. Sad, sad...
Oh, btw, I am not going to generalise this incident and say that all Egyptian men are desperados but I definitely going to be on my toes around them.
YEAH YEAH RIGHT WHO TOLD YOU ABOPUT THE CAR I WAS VERY CAREFUL TO HIDE IT IN THE TREES WITH MY SOME BUDDIES INSIDE IT READY IN UNIFORM N THE WONDERFUL YELLOW VICE VERSA
SHIRT FOR YOU N THEN WHEN U GET PUT IN IT IF NOT GENTLEY THEN BY FORCE, U WILL BE OUR GUEST FOR LONG LONG TIME IN SOME PLACE CALLED IN EGYPT THE "YELLOW PALACE OF ALABBASEYA" I HOPE YOU MAKE ENOUGH FREINDS IN EGYPT TO ASK THEM WHAT IS THAT PALACE FOR OR I WOULD RATHER SAY FOR WHOM IS IT BUILT ??????????? DO UR HOMEWORK MY LIL SICK COCO"NUTS" EATER
YOU DARED TO BUG HER HIGHNESS MRS. SICKNESS ON WHEELS BY SAYING "GOOD MORNING" TO HER RIGHT DELIBERATELY...... 
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Originally posted by Corvinous:
YES INDEED LIFE, A GOOD EDUCATION N GOOD LESSONS ARE NEVER FOR FREE, HERE I GOT ONE VERY BIG LESSON N FACT OF LIFE, TO ALWAYS LISTEN TO MY HEART N NEVER EVER GO AGAINST WHAT IT TELLS ME, I WAS WORKING IN BIG FIRMS N I SAW PEOPLE OF THAT SAME TYPE OF THAT GURL, I SAW HOW THEY ACT N LIVE WITH OTHERS, BARELY ONE CAN GET ALONG WITH THEM N UNLESS THEY HAVE SOME RELATIVES HOLDING HIGH POSITIONS, THEY WOULD BE FIRED FOR NOTJHING BUT FOR THAT PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THEM, THEY ARE NOT ONLY SOCIALLY SICK BUT THEY MAKE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE AROUND THEM HELL !!! YOU WOULD TELL ONE OF THEM "GOOD MORNING" N SHE ANSWERS YOU REGULARLY BUT BY THE TIME YOU ARE SETTLED ON UR DESK YOU GET A CALL FROM THE SUPERIOR OF YOUR SUPERIOR ASKING YOU FOR HIS OFFICE FOR THAT MAJOR CRIME YOU COMMITTED...YOU TRIED TO HASSLE YOUR FEMALE CO-WORKER N INTERRUPTED HER SUPERIOR FOCUS ON A SERIOUS MATTER OF BUSINESS THIS MORNING, YOU WOULD GET OUT OF THAT OFFICE NOT EVEN KNOWING WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT N THEN YOU GET EXPLANATION FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES
WAS REFERING TO EMMY-FEMMY
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Originally posted by poppy:
This person has told me that he only got to know u so he could get to know me???
and i only spoke with him for a about 15 minutes and he was very stange!!! he made me feel afraid and is now insulting me too on his thread which he has prevented me from replying on!
Please emmy femmy...i need to know what has happened ....
He made me feel very afraid...is it corvinous??? u were talking about?
I never ever prevented you from my threads Auntie Poppy, you did prevent me from yours so explicitly, you are becoming so boring Auntie!!!
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Originally posted by poppy:
YES! emmy, i think i know this guy sort of
OMG!!! now i'd like to talk to u!!!...
if/when u see this....lets talk i need to clarify a few things with u ok...thx
As i have just had a bit of a bad experience with the same man, i think.
Pathetic!!!
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Originally posted by Corvinous:
Pathetic!!!
Sure not all foreign women are easy lays, but sure many of them are weird......
Karah_Mia...U R So perceptive and smart!!! u were right.
Yeah!!! how could i not be!!! lol
He's really a very sweet guy....i can see that now. thx.
What did I miss?
lol, you can laugh, but its true, strippers won't even shake their asses for them. Strippers and prostitutes know they are cheap, unwashed, and basically a huge letdown.
Yet my husband didn't want even his friends near me. For good reason.
While I am in Egypt for visits I don't go out very often without a large male relative. And young men aren't allowed near me. No public transit. No crowded places.
Yet my FIL always enjoys the opportunity for me to publically vomit when I can't take the smell of a guy who doesn't know what deoderant soap is. He throughly enjoys my reactions. Women laugh and say "she's a good woman."
And yes, that's happened twice.
I can't understand why these guys think they can get with a foreign woman so easy. We have a gag reflex too.
And yes I think movies help instigate the stereotype of foreign women being easy. Yet I would think it would be so rare for a casual encounter and it would happen to the same group of guys.
Uff, so weird.
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Originally posted by Paint Me As I Am:
I can't understand why these guys think they can get with a foreign woman so easy. We have a gag reflex too.And yes I think movies help instigate the stereotype of foreign women being easy. Yet I would think it would be so rare for a casual encounter and it would happen to the same group of guys.
Uff, so weird.
U think maybe to much "HOLLYWOOD MOVIES"? The movie industry always gives all women such a bad reputation.. :-(
money hungry industry...[/B][/QUOTE]
Yes in comparison to the wider choice of viewing in England...u could be right.
But of course theres not nearly enough censorship in U.K. in my oppinion!!! What about America?
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Originally posted by Paint Me As I Am:
............................................No, America is the same they say so many bad words on TV- its so scary to let ur kids even watch unless u have it set to parent control..
I remember growing up we use to watch every sunday " Walt Disney Show" now a day even disney shows gotten out of control to a certain degree.....
When i was married my ex-husband got rid of the TV,.cuz, he had a personal conviction how TV rob us of time together (When he wasn't so back slidden at that time) lol and i had the 3 girls back, to back, to back..Pop out a baby and pregnate again--
then my daddy told me to get a TV :-(
( SO MEAN OF HIM). my son came 6ys later after the TV be back in the home...I told my daddy cuz he is Christian-- "But, Dad- God says to be Fruitful and Multiply the Earth and I Am "...... OH, he said i was giving to much fruit..
Now after the years- and all my Kids- i would of had a Dozen by now had i stayed married:-)
Wow, how i love kids such a gift and blessing from God and i am so grateful Allah allowed me to be a mother as well as teach them the values of life since i got to home- school them all for 5 yrs..
and as mothers we do it all to try to make sure our children don't get hurt- caught up in drugs-or even watch junk on TV-pornography as i have seen as i change the channels...
Its the way Hollywood gets its attractions and what a way to make money on such trash/filth..
Jannah
Hi Jannah! Hope you are doing well!!
I totally agree with you on how t.v is becoming (or has already become) so bad that its scary to let kids watch! I have a 12 year old brother and my parents are even having to pre screen cartoons these days!
It's terrible! Soon there will be no such thing as "family tv."
OH! What is this world coming to???!!!
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Originally posted by poppy:
The tittle of this post is self explanitory......As i write it....i am being bothered here online... by a man who once took me out to a private beach for the day, and for dinner... Now he won't leave me alone and is doing his best to worm his way back into my life...And wait for it girls...
His oh so romantic chat up line is... iv'e got 20 condoms....HUH! so what? HOW PRESUMPTIOUS OF HIM!
Honestly... i tend to keep myself to myself and choose generally, not to socialise...especially with Egyptian men here while living in Egypt. I HAVE SOME GREAT EGYPTIAN WOMEN FRIENDS THOUGH! I'm not going to expand any further..Much stuff on this subject has already been posted before me.
Some intelligent feminine input would be appreciated though. thx in advance.
First the double negative in the title, conveys the opposite meaning to what you intended to say. Sorry to be pedantic
Secondly, generally speaking, nothing personal at all.
Hey girls make up your minds, one post you marvel about Egyptian men and how wonderful lovers they are, the next post they are the most sticky of all insects and cannot get rid of them even with DDT.
Which is it , make your minds up ....
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Originally posted by Troubles101:
Maybe this guy works for a condom factory and was only trying to promote the product? why do women prefer to pick the worst scenario when it comes to men?But in case he has another intention, one or two condoms is reasonable but what kind of a thing this guy has which needs 20 condoms? Sounds very scary!
[This message has been edited by Troubles101 (edited 28 July 2005).]
LMAO!!!