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Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
-Being stuck in traffic, and having someone cut you off just to move a few steps ahead of you. I mean seriously what's the point of cutting someone, when their is a traffic jam, and we are all stuck there anyway?

-Having someone coming in the wrong way in a one way road, look at you like you have issues just because you objected

- Someone goes in the wrong road, and decides that he doesnt want to waste his time going around so he decides to reverse. If you are behind him, you are expected to reverse too. At least if you dont want a stream of insults and furious beeping thrown at you

-Someone bumps your car and drives away like crazy, without even apologizing

-Being stuck in a eshara for an hour, and when finally it opens, the person infront of you is busy talking on the mobile and driving really slowly. By the time he gets out of your way, the eshara closes, and you are stuck AGAIN.

-People beeping at you the minute the headlights change

-Their is a traffic jam, and the guy behind you keeps beeping and waving angrliy at you, when he knows perfectly well that you're not the reason the cars are not moving!

-Microbuses and taxis who think they can stop suddenly in the middle of the raod to pick up passengers

-Taxis who thinks its totally ok to stop and bargain with a passenger when their is a long line of cars behind them

-Microbus drivers who stop for a chat not minding the fact that they have stopped the traffic

-If you do something to annoy someone like cutting them off or "tezana2 3aelhom" they drive after you for km just to look at you and give you that "stare," before driving away.

and specially for the ladies:

-A group of guys spot you driving alone or with other females, and decide to follow you all the way to your destination, all the time trying to cut you off, pretending they will bump into you.,jeering and laughing ofcourse

-Being stuck in traffic behind a lorry with soldiers or workers in the back who keep pointing at you, throwing you kisses, waving, and laughing. and ofcourse you are in a jam, and you can't move, so you have to sit there for how long it takes pretending not to see them.

These are the ones I can think of now, anyone has more?
 

Posted by gigli (Member # 7682) on :
 
Rofl rofl!!!!!!

ha ha ha ha ha aaaaa! I know the worst is if everyone suddenly started abiding by the rules, there wont be any problems to begin with!
 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gigli:
Rofl rofl!!!!!!

ha ha ha ha ha aaaaa! I know the worst is if everyone suddenly started abiding by the rules, there wont be any problems to begin with!

heheh yeah but the whole concept of traffic rules is totally lost on egyptian!


 

Posted by Nooralhaq20055 (Member # 9255) on :
 
do you have to take a drivers test there to get a license??
 
Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
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These are the ones I can think of now, anyone has more?

lol you said every thing 7aya nothing left


 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam on line:
lol you said every thing 7aya nothing left

But you reminded me , twice i thought about leaving the car just in the middle of the jam, and just leave
I stayed for more than a hour cause of a minister or whatever was passing by.

 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nooralhaq20055:
do you have to take a drivers test there to get a license??

yeah we do. but the test is so difficult many people get it through what we call "kosa," which means having someone powerful put in a good word for you.
 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
So now i think twice beofore im heading to congested places .... take the car or take the taxi ... the taxi is more easier to leave
 
Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
yeah we do. but the test is so difficult many people get it through what we call "kosa," which means having someone powerful put in a good word for you.

why is it so difficult? don't you drive normal cars?


 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam on line:
So now i think twice beofore im heading to congested places .... take the car or take the taxi ... the taxi is more easier to leave

yes and with the taxi you don't have to work about parking! seriously its becoming almost impossible to park anywhere these days!!
 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
yes and with the taxi you don't have to work about parking! seriously its becoming almost impossible to park anywhere these days!!


I remember once i was trying to find a park for my car at the unive, and i ended up by being back at home.


 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
why is it so difficult? don't you drive normal cars?

the test is difficult because this is egypt and main point of having egypt is to make the life of the egyptians hell! you know my cousin is one of the best drivers i have seen and she failed the test three times!
 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
why is it so difficult? don't you drive normal cars?


Actually the people are the ones not normal, you have to pay so that you don't fail,or you can say im a good driver and they gonna screw you up


 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
These are the ones I can think of now, anyone has more?

- You're driving in a semi-empty road, just driving on a clear day in a semi-empty road trying to convince yourself that Cairo isn't that bad after all.. And BOOOOM, a person lands (from the sky?) on your windshield like Boneless Chicken.

..He would let you go if and only if you gave him some money for you broke his spinal cord and crushed his balls.
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
the test is difficult because this is egypt and main point of having egypt is to make the life of the egyptians hell! you know my cousin is one of the best drivers i have seen and she failed the test three times!

you mean the men let you fail the test just because they want to "make your life hell"? because they are in a bad mood or so? unbelievable. are there any consequences if you fail the test three times? in that case here in germany, you've got to do the so-called (in german) "Idiotentest"


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
why is it so difficult? don't you drive normal cars?

NOPE, ONLY FERRARIS
 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
- You're driving in a semi-empty road, just driving on a clear day in a semi-empty road trying to convince yourself that Cairo isn't that bad after all.. And BOOOOM, a person lands (from the sky?) on your windshield like Boneless Chicken.

..He would let you go if and only if you gave him some money for you broke his spinal cord and crushed his balls.


ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!

-pedestrians trying to squeeze between the cars who think its totally ok to fold your side mirrors in order to pass ( the one on the other side -the one you can't reach). then you spend the next ten minutes trying to drive while attempting to reach the mirror and unfold it.

-being gracious and stopping to allow a pedestrian to cross, only to have them stop and stare at you for 10 seconds, before speeding up and crossing. seriously why do they do that??

 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
NOPE, ONLY FERRARIS

good joke i did not see a single ferrari when i went to egypt...but to be honest i only had eyes for the taxi drivers's cars,the only cars i saw from inside. i noticed how "robust" they were, hehehe.

 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
good joke i did not see a single ferrari when i went to egypt...but to be honest i only had eyes for the taxi drivers's cars,the only cars i saw from inside. i noticed how "robust" they were, hehehe.

I WILL BUY YOU A TAXI NEXT TIME YOU COME TO EGYPT
 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
"Idiotentest"

I know a couple of ES members who wouldn't even pass this one

 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:

-being gracious and stopping to allow a pedestrian to cross, only to have them stop and stare at you for 10 seconds, before speeding up and crossing. seriously why do they do that??

does this also happen to you?

They just can't believe their eyes that someone has stopped for them.

One guys was once so confused that my sister stopped for him that he didn't know how to react, so he spit on her!!
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
I WILL BUY YOU A TAXI NEXT TIME YOU COME TO EGYPT

what do you mean? i was fine with these taxis! i came to egypt to get to get to know a different culture, and, errrm, what a surprise, different taxis belong to that!
it was just a bit scary when the drivers suddenly left the normal streets and drove on real sandy ways through where the egyptians lived. i mean i was not used to that kind of driving and when it happened the first time i thought i was being kidnapped


 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
- You're driving in a semi-empty road, just driving on a clear day in a semi-empty road trying to convince yourself that Cairo isn't that bad after all.. And BOOOOM, a person lands (from the sky?) on your windshield like Boneless Chicken.

..He would let you go if and only if you gave him some money for you broke his spinal cord and crushed his balls.

You will wonder that some people do that intentionally


 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
does this also happen to you?

They just can't believe their eyes that someone has stopped for them.

One guys was once so confused that my sister stopped for him that he didn't know how to react, so he spit on her!!


spit on her? ya lahwi. but last week i had a pedestrian kick my car for absoutly no reason. people are just going crazy!

 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
does this also happen to you?

They just can't believe their eyes that someone has stopped for them.

One guys was once so confused that my sister stopped for him that he didn't know how to react, so he spit on her!!


lol you will kill me


 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam on line:
You will wonder that some people do that intentionally

Hello? Does any of them do it unintentionally

Some do this for a living (or better say a dying).. I guess from 9-5!
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
what do you mean? i was fine with these taxis! i came to egypt to get to get to know a different culture, and, errrm, what a surprise, different taxis belong to that!
it was just a bit scary when the drivers suddenly left the normal streets and drove on real sandy ways through where the egyptians lived. i mean i was not used to that kind of driving and when it happened the first time i thought i was being kidnapped

YOU WON'T MISS ON KIDNAPPING NEXT TIME YOU COME, I PROMISE YA THAT

JUST GIVE ME UR FLIGHT NUMBER

 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
he didn't know how to react, so he spit on her!!


what??? what kind of behaviour is that??
OMG, let me tell you something now, before i came to ES i always thought Cairo was so big and so full of people and just too chaotic for me, so i was always a bit afraid to go there. but reading everything about the city here, i'm so confused and scared! all i can say is that i'll never go there without a male friend in who i trust and who will protect me from the "spitting men"

[This message has been edited by germanjulia (edited 26 October 2005).]
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
YOU WON'T MISS ON KIDNAPPING NEXT TIME YOU COME, I PROMISE YA THAT

JUST GIVE ME UR FLIGHT NUMBER

hehehe, no way


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:

what??? what kind of behaviour is that??
OMG, let me tell you something now, before i came to ES i always thought Cairo was so big and so full of people and just too chaotic for me, so i was always a bit afraid to go there. but reading everything about the city here, i'm so confused and scared! all i can say is that i'll never go there without a male in who i trust and who will protect me from the "spitting men"

YOU BETTER GET A TRAINED SWAT TEAM THEN, YOU STILL KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CANNIBALISM, THEY CAN SNATCH A BITE OF YA TOO

 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
Hello? Does any of them do it unintentionally

Some do this for a living (or better say a dying).. I guess from 9-5!


I was once driving in el haram street and my speed was like 20 km or less, suddenly a lousy guy was heading to me , and did nothing but letting his body slam the street , quit hard that i was shocked.... is that guy crazy or what. then his gang came around shouting you smashed him ...
smashed who my speed is 20 km ..but i just moved back and went on my way ..

 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
i mean i was not used to that kind of driving and when it happened the first time i thought i was being kidnapped

two years ago rumors spread that a taxi driver in heliopolis is a seriall killer, and they have found the remains of his murdered and chopped victims in the garbage cans. apparently that driver was only in heliopolis, and so the girls in that area were scared to death. one day however, my car was not avaialable, and i was forced to use a cab.
the driver started complaining that the traffic is terrible, and that he will take a better route. he took me through some strange dark and deserted alleyways.
the story about the serial killer kept crossing my mind and i started panicking and asking him where on earth are we? after a while he noticed how agitated i am, turned around, smiled, and said, "you know i'm not that serial killer, relax" uff i felt so silly
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
hehehe, no way

I NEVER HEARD OF ANY FLIGHTS GOING "NO WAY" WHERE IS THAT ANYWAY .. IN EGYPT ???
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam on line:

I was once driving in el haram street and my speed was like 20 km or less, suddenly a lousy guy was heading to me , and did nothing but letting his body slam the street , quit hard that i was shocked.... is that guy crazy or what. then his gang came around shouting you smashed him ...
smashed who my speed is 20 km ..but i just moved back and went on my way ..

YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THEM, YOU SMASHED "HIS FEELINGS"
 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
..after a while he noticed how agitated i am, turned around, smiled, and said, "you know i'm not that serial killer, relax" uff i felt so silly

Ya salam! And you believed him!

It's like the real one would say: "Hi, I'm Killer, Serial Killer!"
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
YOU BETTER GET A TRAINED SWAT TEAM THEN, YOU STILL KNOW NOTHING ABOUT CANNIBALISM, THEY CAN SNATCH A BITE OF YA TOO

no need for SWAT, my male friend will be a good protector. what are you always saying about cannibalism and stuff, i think that's kinda strange...


 

Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
Ya salam! And you believed him!

It's like the real one would say: "Hi, I'm Killer, Serial Killer!"

But in that case, it is better to choose very old drivers, so it is easier to fight back in all cases.


 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
two years ago rumors spread that a taxi driver in heliopolis is a seriall killer, and they have found the remains of his murdered and chopped victims in the garbage cans. apparently that driver was only in heliopolis, and so the girls in that area were scared to death. one day however, my car was not avaialable, and i was forced to use a cab.
the driver started complaining that the traffic is terrible, and that he will take a better route. he took me through some strange dark and deserted alleyways.
the story about the serial killer kept crossing my mind and i started panicking and asking him where on earth are we? after a while he noticed how agitated i am, turned around, smiled, and said, "you know i'm not that serial killer, relax" uff i felt so silly

aaah, why did you tell me that?
i'm always a bit worried when i'm sitting in a taxi alone, cos once (must be 2 years ago) i was in a taxi and i think the driver was drunk, he slured and drove like hell! oh my....
did they find the serial killer at least?

 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
I NEVER HEARD OF ANY FLIGHTS GOING "NO WAY" WHERE IS THAT ANYWAY .. IN EGYPT ???

i simply won't tell you my flight number corv, and i think you understood me very well before


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
no need for SWAT, my male friend will be a good protector. what are you always saying about cannibalism and stuff, i think that's kinda strange...

I AM AFRAID THE DOCTOR TOLD ME I HAVE CANNIBALE CROMOSOMES IN MY DNA
 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
For those who never read those ones, I guess 7aya's story and mine are worth reading on that thread.
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum2/HTML/007116.html
 
Posted by Show Time (Member # 8513) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
aaah, why did you tell me that?
i'm always a bit worried when i'm sitting in a taxi alone, cos once (must be 2 years ago) i was in a taxi and i think the driver was drunk, he slured and drove like hell! oh my....
did they find the serial killer at least?


Young drivers are serial killers really,they drive as if my destination is hell or as if we are immortal!!!


 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
Ya salam! And you believed him!

It's like the real one would say: "Hi, I'm Killer, Serial Killer!"

lol, well i'm still alive aren't i?
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
i simply won't tell you my flight number corv, and i think you understood me very well before

WELL, I AM JOKING WHAT IS THE PROBLEM NOW ?
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
WELL, I AM JOKING WHAT IS THE PROBLEM NOW ?

WHAT WOULD I DO WITH YOUR FLIGHT OR ID NUMBER ANYWAY ?????????

NEVER GONNA JOKE WITH YA AGAIN, PROMISED.
 

Posted by Nooralhaq2005 (Member # 7790) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 7aya:
yeah we do. but the test is so difficult many people get it through what we call "kosa," which means having someone powerful put in a good word for you.

so people lie? omggg how stupid and dangerous!!!!!
 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nooralhaq2005:
so people lie? omggg how stupid and dangerous!!!!!

So Noor, people lie AND there are no lanes in Shebien el-koom
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
WHAT WOULD I DO WITH YOUR FLIGHT OR ID NUMBER ANYWAY ?????????

NEVER GONNA JOKE WITH YA AGAIN, PROMISED.

no no, what's your problem, don't you see the "smilies"? look at them... they mean: "i understand your jokes and find them funny."
alright?
but i won't force you to joke either, feel free to refuse
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
no no, what's your problem, don't you see the "smilies"? look at them... they mean: "i understand your jokes and find them funny."
alright?
but i won't force you to joke either, feel free to refuse


 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sam on line:

Young drivers are serial killers really,they drive as if my destination is hell or as if we are immortal!!!


well, the drunk one who drove me home was old and even the owner of the cab trade!

 

Posted by Nooralhaq2005 (Member # 7790) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
So Noor, people lie AND there are no lanes in Shebien el-koom

ohhh nooo! NO LANES!!! AHHHHH!!!!
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/Forum2/HTML/007116.html

tja, mercedes... das ist eben qualität aus BRD, that's all i say, MY KINGDOM


 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
das ist eben qualität aus BRD, MY KINGDOM

So wie mein mann, My Julia
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
So wie mein mann, My Julia

i could tell now very provocatively that i'm from BRD too (LOL), but i won't do it!

ich glaube, du bist sehr glücklich mit deinem mann!

ich wünsche euch nur das beste!!


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:

i could tell now very provocatively that i'm from BRD too (LOL), but i won't do it!

ich glaube, du bist sehr glücklich mit deinem mann!

ich wünsche euch nur das beste!!

ich don't undersatnd

 

Posted by Nooralhaq2005 (Member # 7790) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
ich don't undersatnd

TRANSLATION:

I believe, you are very happy with your man!

I wish you only the best
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
ich don't undersatnd

hmmm... jusifni hada, if you know what i mean, lol


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nooralhaq2005:
TRANSLATION:

I believe, you are very happy with your man!

I wish you only the best

I DID NOT PRACTICE MY GERMAN SINCE WOLRD WAR II ..
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
hmmm... jusifni hada, if you know what i mean, lol

IT SOUNDS LIKE BEDOUIN SLANG BUT I HAVE NO CLUE
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
IT SOUNDS LIKE BEDOUIN SLANG BUT I HAVE NO CLUE

no??? i want my money back!!!!! germans (am i the only one?), never trust MARCO POLO phrase books!!!

i'll tell you now what it was supposed to mean: i'm sorry.


 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
-

[This message has been edited by germanjulia (edited 26 October 2005).]
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
no??? i want my money back!!!!! germans (am i the only one?), never trust MARCO POLO phrase books!!!

i'll tell you now what it was supposed to mean: i'm sorry.

OK

 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
OK

can you do me a favor and tell me what "sorry" means now in arabic?

thanks


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
can you do me a favor and tell me what "sorry" means now in arabic?

thanks

IT MEANS "ANA ASEF"
 

Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
can you do me a favor and tell me what "sorry" means now in arabic?

thanks

sorry means "asfa"
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
ana asef...
asfa...

okay that's just fine. thank you.
i'll go to bed, good night everyone
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
ana asef...
asfa...

okay that's just fine. thank you.
i'll go to bed, good night everyone

WAIT, WHY YOUSAY YOU ARE SORRY, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG AT ALL, WE HAD VERY NICE TIME

 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
WAIT, WHY YOUSAY YOU ARE SORRY, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG AT ALL, WE HAD VERY NICE TIME

i said i was sorry cos you said before that you didn't understand the german words.


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
i said i was sorry cos you said before that you didn't understand the german words.

NO DEAR I JUST DID NOT PRACTICE IT SINCE WORLD WAR II LIKE I SAID TO NOOR ..
 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:

ich wünsche euch nur das beste!!

xx
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
NO DEAR I JUST DID NOT PRACTICE IT SINCE WORLD WAR II LIKE I SAID TO NOOR ..

so did you ever try to learn it?


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
so did you ever try to learn it?

NOPE, NEVER WAS ON MY WAY OR HAVE EVER NEEDED IT BESIDES GERMAN PEOPLE DON'T LOOK THAT APPEALING TO ME, I AM SORRY MEAN NO OFFENSE AT ALL, BUT I NEVER FOUND SOMEONE WHO LIKES FRENCH PEOPLE CAN LIKE GERMANS TOO, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY


 

Posted by MK the Most Interlectual (Member # 8356) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
jusifni hada

Julia, I would always use the letter Y instead of J when I translate to Arabic.

So you meant Yo'sifni hatha. But that is classical Arabic. In Egypt we have a completely different dialect. So you better toss this book away!
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
BUT I NEVER FOUND SOMEONE WHO LIKES FRENCH PEOPLE CAN LIKE GERMANS TOO, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY

maybe cos the french don't find the germans very "appealing" either! lol. well well, have you aver been to germany or have you had a (close) german friend? then you would see that germany is more that just lederhosen and sauerkraut!


 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:
maybe cos the french don't find the germans very "appealing" either! lol. well well, have you aver been to germany or have you had a (close) german friend? then you would see that germany is more that just lederhosen and sauerkraut!

MY COUSINS ARE GERMANS, MY UNCLE IS MARRIED TO A GERMAN LADY 20 YEARS AGO

BUT NEVER TALKED WITH THEM MORE THAN FEW TIMES N FOR VERY SHORT TIME ... THEY LIVE THERE N COME BACK A WEEK EVERY 5-7 YEARS

 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
Julia, I would always use the letter Y instead of J when I translate to Arabic.

thanks for the advice!

quote:
Originally posted by MyKingdomForATaba2Koshari:
So you better toss this book away![/B]

definitely



 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
MY COUSINS ARE GERMANS, MY UNCLE IS MARRIED TO A GERMAN LADY 20 YEARS AGO

BUT NEVER TALKED WITH THEM MORE THAN FEW TIMES N FOR VERY SHORT TIME ... THEY LIVE THERE N COME BACK A WEEK EVERY 5-7 YEARS


i know you wouldn't tell me where they live, so i'm just guessing right now: berlin?? the capital. just say yes or no
if you never had contact to any german, then go and visit the country, if you like. foreign people have told me that, if they think of germans, they always see fat old men drinking beer and wearing leather pants! lol! what an idea!

...that's not very realistic. besides they only wear leather pants in the south.

[This message has been edited by germanjulia (edited 26 October 2005).]
 

Posted by Corvinous (Member # 6578) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by germanjulia:

i know you wouldn't tell me where they live, so i'm just guessing right now: berlin?? the capital. just say yes or no
if you never had contact to any german, then go and visit the country, if you like. foreign people have told me that, if they think of germans, they always see fat old men drinking beer and wearing leather pants! lol! what an idea!

...that's not very realistic. besides they only wear leather pants in the south.

[This message has been edited by germanjulia (edited 26 October 2005).]

I AM AFRAID I AM NOT INTERESTED AT THE SAME TIME I WISH TO GET BURRIED IN FRENCH SOIL ONE DAY MY BEST WISH ..!
 

Posted by germanjulia (Member # 8781) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Corvinous:
I AM AFRAID I AM NOT INTERESTED AT THE SAME TIME I WISH TO GET BURRIED IN FRENCH SOIL ONE DAY MY BEST WISH ..!

alright then... try your best to be burried there!
now i gotta go to bed. good night!!


 

Posted by Sonomod_me (Member # 10522) on :
 
A Roadshow for Safety Standards

Stakeholders joing together to try to improve Egypt’s road safety record

Economists often sound obtuse when they talk about the things that need to be done away with to encourage a country’s chance of attracting more foreign direct investment, particularly when they dwell on unnecessary red tape, poor regulations and corruption, none of which are concepts easily quantifiable on a company’s balance sheet.


But for firms with trucking fleets, for example, potholes, unclear road signs, rising fuel costs and tens of thousands of uneducated drivers cramming the nation’s roads are all very real hazards with clear impacts on the corporate bottom line.


At International Event Partners’ second-annual Road Safety and Traffic Management conference, representatives from the government, the World Health Organization, NGOs and private-sector energy companies promoted a cooperative agenda to reduce road fatalities and lost business productivity caused by preventable accidents.


Organizers specifically highlighted the plight of pedestrians, who are most vulnerable to traffic accidents and are typically in lower income brackets. An accident that injures the breadwinner in a low-income family may drive it to poverty, further depressing the economy.


Heading for a crash


Roughly 88% of all fatal road accidents occur in developing countries, although they own only 20% of the world’s motor vehicles, says Assistant for the Minister of Interior (Traffic Department) General Sherif Gomaa.


Participants cited a combination of factors as stalling economic growth, including a lack of education from a young age about best driving practices (including the need to abide by speed limits and wear seat belts) and poor traffic management, especially when it comes to coordinating vehicle traffic with pedestrians, cyclists and animals.


Egypt has one of the highest road-accident rates in the world, according to a 2005 report released by the Ministry of Transport: “Six thousand people die each year as a result of road accidents in Egypt, and the annual economic loss caused by road loss is at least LE 3 billion, which equals 3% of the country’s gross domestic product.”


General Mohamed Fouda, head of the Roads and Bridges Sector at the Ministry of Transport, says human error causes 75% of accidents, mostly due to excessive speeding, and that vehicle problems account for 20% and environmental factors cause a further 5% of all accidents.


From the environmental standpoint, the nation’s road infrastructure is struggling to keep up with rising traffic volume: the number of highway trips increased from 173 million per year in 1992 to 335 million in 2005, Fouda said.


Much of the problem has to do with attitudes, experts say. Lax vehicle inspections as a part of re-registration procedures, which currently include an external body check and very superficial overview of the engine and brakes, helps explain the rate at which vehicle malfunctions cause accidents. Worse, Fouda estimates that less than 1% of all cars regularly stop to allow pedestrians to cross streets.


The value of a life


Academics at the conference noted that developing countries lose $70-100 billion every year from traffic accidents, a sum considerably larger than the total value of the aid they receive as a group. Moreover, 57% of road fatalities claim those aged 17-45, eliminating people from the workforce during the very years in which they are most productive —and during which they’re supporting families.


“Crash-prevention is a way to prevent people from entering poverty,” says Dr. David Bishai, associate professor at John Hopkins University’s Bloomberg School of Public Health.


Bishai’s research estimates the effects of state and local policies on individual health. He has conducted studies that examine the cost effectiveness of interventions to improve pre-hospital care for injured patients within the first ‘golden’ hour after a person suffers a major trauma as well as to improve primary injury prevention. In his most basic model, the state supports a campaign to train volunteers, bus and taxi drivers in first aid and safe transport, which can save up to 370 lives a year and costs $40,000 per million people.


While recognizing the need for improved health care, Egyptian officials felt a more immediate improvement could be made by focusing on the ‘Three Es’ of accident prevention: enforcement, education and engineering.


Senior Interior Ministry officers and international visitors alike promoted a well-marked network of speed radar and camera systems as a way of monitoring and preventing speeding; the ministry is currently studying such a system. It is also now piloting international environmental safety standards at electronic exhaust inspection stations in Alexandria as a new way of inspecting the health of vehicles to prevent malfunctions that could cause accidents.


In the past few years, the ministry has also introduced a written examination for those taking their first driving test to make certain they have a basic awareness of traffic laws and signage.


3M, a multinational chemical company that produces traffic signs and vehicle registration systems, is one of the key partners in making engineering improvements to the nation’s road network. Rik Nuyttens, European regulatory affairs manager at 3M Europe’s traffic systems division, says that since 90% of the decisions humans make are based on what they see, one of the quickest ways to improve road conditions is to put up signs.


Al-Moataz Bellah Selmy, sales and marketing supervisor for display and graphics at 3M, says the company launched an initiative two years ago with the Roads and Bridges Authority to use reflective materials on highway signs. These can be clearly seen all over Cairo and have recently been introduced in Luxor.


“The signs are now designed according to international specs,” he says. “A color-coding system makes signs even easier to read [highways are in green and tourist attractions are on brown boards].” (See sidebar)


New safety measures seem to be paying off.


“Only 16 out of every 10,000 registered vehicles were involved in a traffic accident this past year, down from 18 the previous year,” says Gomaa, while Fouda cited a 37% decrease in road fatalities since 2001.


Leading the way


Major corporations including ExxonMobil, Halliburton, BG, Schlumberger and Shell had big presences at the conference and the Traffic Egypt 2006 product and services exhibition that accompanied it. Their presentations promoted the high level of driver’s training they provide their staff as they operate some of the largest and most dangerous vehicles on the road, transporting highly flammable oils and natural gases.


“Companies like ExxonMobil, Halliburton, BG have a reputation and they [apply strict safety standards] for their own employees traveling on the road and on business trips,” Nuyttens said. “These are people that [they] have trained and have a lot of knowledge [they] are protecting their investments as well as making sure the material they are transporting gets there safely — without harming anyone on the way to its final destination.”


Nuyttens believes one of the biggest challenges facing Egypt, besides driver behavior, is reporting traffic accidents and recording fatalities in a uniform way. This will help map out the areas and intersections with Egypt’s highest concentration of traffic accidents.


“A lot of countries map out black spots,” he says. “If you can neutralize spots with high accident rates, it has an immediate impact on road safety. With a little bit of money, you could put up signs to at least warn people that this is a dangerous zone so they can pay attention this has an immediate impact on behavior.” It’s also a cheaper solution that building roundabouts, bridges or erecting traffic lights.


Attendees also stressed the importance of the media, saying it’s time the press started covering traffic accidents in a more prominent manner.


Theo Holtzheuser, a former police officer and representative of the international Road Safety Network Association, says movies and commercials glorify “fast and furious” driving, and not enough attention is paid to traffic accidents and their causes in the news.

http://www.businesstodayegypt.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6666
 
Posted by focus683 (Member # 4013) on :
 
I'm a very lousy driver myself, (which is good by Egyptian driving standards). I guess anyone who drives in this country ends up picking up their bad habits. I've never driven anywhere else though so I don't know what it's like there, but I keep thinking I'll probably get my license taken once I step into the car for an offence that is totally normal in Egypt without knowing it lol.

Here's another annoying thing. What with those jingle tunes that every taxi has these days. Everywhere I go I keep hearing them all they way till they got stuck in my head.
 
Posted by snake poison (Member # 10674) on :
 
intresting topic, an American friend of mine commented on driving in Egypt she said :"Driving in Egypt is like an unregisterd nascar race."
 
Posted by * 7ayat * (Member # 7043) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by focus683:
I'm a very lousy driver myself, (which is good by Egyptian driving standards). I guess anyone who drives in this country ends up picking up their bad habits. I've never driven anywhere else though so I don't know what it's like there, but I keep thinking I'll probably get my license taken once I step into the car for an offence that is totally normal in Egypt without knowing it lol.

Here's another annoying thing. What with those jingle tunes that every taxi has these days. Everywhere I go I keep hearing them all they way till they got stuck in my head.
lol that's exactly why i'm worried about driving in sydney [Smile]
 
Posted by Charm El Feikh? (Member # 10243) on :
 
i didnt think it was that bad actually!

but then ive seen some BAD cities...

i just couldnt figure out why theres no T junctions in sharm. it seems so daft!!
 
Posted by tenngirl9 (Member # 9948) on :
 
I just got back from my first visit to Egypt and out of my country USA. The first day in Cairo i was bracing to crash the whole way to the hotel. Then we leave hotel and come across a man, pedestrian, hit by a car, laying in the middle of a fairly busy road in Cairo, with 2 huge rocks in front of him, he was unconscience at first, then started moaning, his pants were knocked off down to almost his knees. I guess the rocks were there as a speed bump so no one would run over twice!!!!!!
 
Posted by QueenBee (Member # 9378) on :
 
and then...?
what happened to the guy?
!
 


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