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Just a thought I came up with. See I have lots of time to sits and thinks in the bush.

Im not judging guys, just looking at things from a clinical side.

In Egyptian society(as in Hindi society also) the family has amazing power. Sadly this is by taking religious laws and not using them wisely and as intended. When a young man grows up always being under the thumb of his mother it is called emotional abuse and he is restricted to living the way she wants him to live.

So now this young man marries and reckons that this is the way to treat people and he will become emotionally abusive as this is the way it is and always has been in his life. Its now his turn to have someone under his thumb.

Even society is emotionally and verbally abusive in Egypt. As we see in the streets.

Its sad and its a problem worth looking at.

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I agree with you, and that form of abuse is existant in almost every aspect of the Egyptian life, business culture, social interactions..etc

it's part of the Egyptian culture, and the worst part is as u've said using Religion to justify that abuse (someway or another)

but the worst part is, that the mother raises the boy with the same abusive manner. it's a vicious circle....

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i'd recommend changing the topic to "Egyptians' Phycology" [Razz]
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Wrong.
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wat's wrong?
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When a young man grows up always being under the thumb of his mother it is called emotional abuse and he is restricted to living the way she wants him to live.

Ya I really agree with this observation, mother can be very manipulative with their son, Especially when it comes to get married

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bombon are u egyptian?
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No ana francaoullia [Confused]
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lool...
tu parle l'arabe?

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shouia [Confused] or chouia ? you tell me which one ?
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showaya [Smile]
where did u learn arabic? walla u just pick on on some words during ur visits to egypt?

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Omigod, emotional 'abuse'? LOL!

They're spoiled too much- that's all. All those stories written on here about how they have to give up their western girlfriends because their mommas will never accept, their families will reject them, etc.

*rolling eyes*

please.

While they're taught to respect their mothers first and foremost, so much so that often the wife comes 2nd...if an egyptian guy wants to marry a woman...he will get his way. It's a two way street, and no mother wants her son to resent her because she denied him the woman he really wanted.

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girls and boys...there is only one solution to this problem...since we cannot get the whole darn country under therapy...

WIN OVER THE MOTHER. Sweet talk her into seeing it YOU WAY all the time. [Wink]

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First of all, the Egyptian son should not be under anyone's thumb and then let the cycle continue after he gets married. If the society is emotionally abusive, it should change.
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CAN YOU GUYS GIVE ME SOME MORE EXAMPLES:

How is the society abusive?

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yup

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MY HUSBAND SAYS IM ABUSIVE . [Smile] BUT MAAAAAAN HE LUVS ME
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quote:
Originally posted by Bombon:
When a young man grows up always being under the thumb of his mother it is called emotional abuse and he is restricted to living the way she wants him to live.

Ya I really agree with this observation, mother can be very manipulative with their son, Especially when it comes to get married

Thats what a woman says when she cannot get a guy to marry her.

There might be other reasons why the marriage didn't happen, using his mother as an excuse is an easy out.

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egyptian boy's and girls HAVE to obay their parents at all times, otherwise they r bad.

and ur parents and every one they know will be treating u like **** until u do what ur parent tell u.

they'll make u feel like ****, like u've done the worst thing u could ever do, taking u on endless guilt trips.

egyptians don't know respect they know fear, thats how they r braught up.

now u tell me if that ain't emotional abuse.

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Gotten only into the second chapter on this book but:

The Middle East A Cultural Psychology

Gary S. Gregg

ISBN: 0195171993
Format: Hardcover, 464pp
Pub. Date: September 2005
Publisher: Oxford University Press

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&isbn=0195171993&itm=2

Heavy reading, loads of references to other studies, and some of it is and can be ethnocentric (second chapter), some of it makes you feel guilty for being a western (chapter one) and after that point it loosens up.

Actaully I have read some of this stuff before in articles a book is much more gratifying. Gives your mind something to chew on and reflect on.

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quote:
Originally posted by snake poison:
I agree with you, and that form of abuse is existant in almost every aspect of the Egyptian life, business culture, social interactions..etc

it's part of the Egyptian culture, and the worst part is as u've said using Religion to justify that abuse (someway or another)

but the worst part is, that the mother raises the boy with the same abusive manner. it's a vicious circle....

No one can talk about ABUSE like ya my dear, your parents abusing ya left ya like you are by now [Frown]

Experience is Mother of Knowledge, right son of a son fuker woman ??? ......... [Wink]

In moments of passion, some woman llike ur mom forgets about the world and incest is the only way to mmmmmmmmm you know [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by snake poison:


and ur parents and every one they know will be treating u like **** until u do what ur parent tell u.


And, that is what you did and it ended into incest sex with your mother [Frown]
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Helo,

I have heard about that incest between mother and son. Is that true ?

For me it is difficult to imagine. Why ? If a mother is really loving her son, she has never sexuel thoughts.

Can you explain me.

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and where did you hear that?
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I really don't think snake poison had incest with his mother.
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i think it went to far then ..not good to insults one mum to another even though u dont know out comes of any ones relationship wit there mum ok ...or dad ..from any of you ..just take a leaf out of my book.GO AND DO AN ALIEN EAT YOUR OFFSPRING [Big Grin]
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what the matter corvis still too bitter....
_|_ up urs u cock sucking dork. still missing ur dady, how about u let ur monkey shove it up ur A hole

or even better, plus the illnesses (mental, physical, physcological and sexual) which u have, i added another one to u it's called "the snake poison complex" looooooooooooooooooool

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It was so funny when you had mr. backdoorrider 2006 admit he was gay. He has finally come out the closet and his dad must be so proud of him......
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actually... its not funny at all.

ive read more interesting instruction manuals. in swedish.

get creative or give up.

all this talk of toilets and bum washing and sweden reminds me of a word the swedes have that we dont....

kånkelbär

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hahahahahahahaa im offfffffff to much for me now ...shud have done a thread on TOOT TOOT [Confused] in the eyes of a raving bull of egyptian who hasnt seen a women in the flesh half way through his prime ..or cud be the other way round ..
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quote:
Originally posted by Tibe:
It was so funny when you had mr. backdoorrider 2006 admit he was gay. He has finally come out the closet and his dad must be so proud of him......

hahah, ya his dady must be looking down upon him now from the heaven of the gay (it's teh one where every man has 2 cocks on in his mouth teh other up his ass_|_)

why do u change ur nickname so often man?

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YYYYYYYAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN.

seriously.

ive seen corv post 2 funny posts recently....

snake and tibe...give up with the gay stuff... its really boring.

E. could do better, must try harder.

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quote:
Originally posted by Charm El Feikh?:
YYYYYYYAAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN.

seriously.

ive seen corv post 2 funny posts recently....

snake and tibe...give up with the gay stuff... its really boring.

E. could do better, must try harder.

Then jump across it and dont read it. We handle him our own way
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no comment!!!!
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tibe... i am trying to, but hes feeding off your posts and its getting threads deleted.

he reminds me of chicken pox... scratching it only makes it worse.

lol..keep some oven gloves by the keyboard...

anyway... do what you want, but your letting him get the better of ya!

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Yeah your right. He should change his name to mosquito...... :-D
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BTW why do you think im asking you two to give up and not him?

he cant.

try it... sit back and watch.

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There is new thinking that the worst thing a woman can do is focus all of her attention on her children and stop sensual/romantic relations with the husband (always busy busy busy with family/kid). This puts the children in a position to replace affections (psychologically) of the father and this is a terrible burden for the children (especially boys).

I find it strange in the Egyptian soceity that a husband and wife find it embarrassing or something to show affection in front of their children! [Eek!] Talk about an unhealthy view of marriage and affection.

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I agree that it's unhealthy. My kids never saw my ex and I show any affection towards each other. My ex thought it was shameful to show affection front of them. I don't want my boys growing up thinking that an innocent kiss or hug to their wives will be shameful. Nothing wrong with a small kiss goodbye in the morning or a hug or an "I love you".

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There is new thinking that the worst thing a woman can do is focus all of her attention on her children and stop sensual/romantic relations with the husband (always busy busy busy with family/kid). This puts the children in a position to replace affections (psychologically) of the father and this is a terrible burden for the children (especially boys).

I find it strange in the Egyptian soceity that a husband and wife find it embarrassing or something to show affection in front of their children! [Eek!] Talk about an unhealthy view of marriage and affection.


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i do cus me forceful [Razz] man it s worth waiting for .nah no harm if done in the right context ..
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quote:
Originally posted by Madame M.:
I agree that it's unhealthy. My kids never saw my ex and I show any affection towards each other. My ex thought it was shameful to show affection front of them. I don't want my boys growing up thinking that an innocent kiss or hug to their wives will be shameful. Nothing wrong with a small kiss goodbye in the morning or a hug or an "I love you".

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Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
There is new thinking that the worst thing a woman can do is focus all of her attention on her children and stop sensual/romantic relations with the husband (always busy busy busy with family/kid). This puts the children in a position to replace affections (psychologically) of the father and this is a terrible burden for the children (especially boys).

I find it strange in the Egyptian soceity that a husband and wife find it embarrassing or something to show affection in front of their children! [Eek!] Talk about an unhealthy view of marriage and affection.


I agree, I mean, I don't approve of making out on the couch in front of the kids, but a sweet hug or kiss can only renforce to your children that your love bond is strong and that being affectionate is good, Not EVIL! Muhahahahaha! [Big Grin]
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