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I was talking to an Egyptian friend of mine and she believes Egyptian men have a tendency towards jealousy. If you are in a relationship with, or have been in a rlationship with, an Egyptian man, what is your opinion?
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well i dont know if we can generalize- but mine is.
used to get so mad if i had any guy friends, if i hung out with guy friends (even if there were other girls around), he even got mad at me b/c my study group (assigned by the proffessor) was made up of 2 guys and myself.
it gets kinda silly- but i think its because in egypt, girls and guys dont interact socially on the same level that they do here. I cant stop from having male class mates, or male study partners, or male co-workers.
Now that hes gone to school and worked here, hes loosened up a little bit.
the downside of the whole thing is that its made ME a more jealous person.
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I really think it's insecurity with a little bit of empty pride. The empty pride comes in when their woman is "caught" commiserating with another male even if it's innocent. That would hurt their "pride". I think it's more learned behavior than taught.
I will add, sometimes these men fake the jealousy to convince their woman of just how much they *love* them
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My fiance can occasionally be a bit jealous. However, he also knows me and knows that I trust people easily, so ultimately, I think his goal is to be protective. And, I am thankful for that.
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Ditto! Mine is a little jealous. He has perfect balance. I can keep him on his toes, but he's never out of line. Same for me though. But he is definately more protective than anything. LOL Posts: 2133 | From: Redneckland | Registered: Oct 2006
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Ah! Very good answers! I can see the relevance in all the replies. I can totally see it from different views now.
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In Egypt jealousy is not viewed as such a dire negative a trait as in Western Europe and the States. People in Egypt are more quick to admit that they are jealous because it isn't seen as such a huge flaw in character, and it is accepted that most people in love feel jealousy. This goes for women as well as men, by the way. One of my best friends has an INSANELY jealous wife, while he is pretty cool in that regard. Both are Egyptian, both are very attractive and faithful to their relationship. The wife is more extreme than most Egyptians (she even has a fit when *men* compliment her husband) but they both claim that she is extremely good at making up for it Anyway, one can expect a fair amount of open jealousy from our culture. Come to think of it, that goes for everywhere I have been in the Mediterranean.
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Wow, thanks for the explaination, Graf! It didn't occur to me that it could be a 'general' trait rather than a men's trait. I appreciate your thoughts.
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Ana Huna, I met Egyptian guys, who would develop a jealousy issue on the first or second date. It's like they had to protect me from the evil eyes of other guys which was really annoying. I wasn't anyones property.
But yes, you can find bitter jealousness in both genders. And I will think twice next time before I ask an Egyptian woman how her husband is doing. It was so wrong of me!
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I think many Egyptian guys perceive being jealous as being a true man. Sometimes the masculinity issue seems to overshadow the "essence" or core of jealousy which is betrayal in any form. Hard to imagine any indication of betrayal in the way a woman looks at the old milkman or a danger of temptation if a man bumps into a gal on a busy street, which events can "normally" trigger an aggressive jealousy outburst. I suspect quite often jealousy has to do with possessiveness and not the pure love as it is claimed by the jealous tyrants. It can also be an indication of deep emotional insecurity rooted in low self-esteem rather than direct betrayal phobia.
Ps. My husband is very jealous, but only because I am a: a) Satan b) Men Eater
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I agree jealously isn't viewed the same way in Egypt as it is in the states, we have a tendency to view jealously as the catalyst for oppression and the next step is, of course, abuse.
That doesn't seem to be the case here...it's more of an admirable jealously. That being said, my husband isn't VERY jealous, but I also don't put myself in situations to test him to see if he would be. As a foreigner, when we walk past a group of men (men like to stare) my husband has acquired the death stare back at them, and so I know he is jealous in some ways, but he doesn't prevent me from having friends or doing something away from him, etc.
Once his cousin was getting engaged and she wanted me to accompany her to the place where they spend 8 hours to do your hair and makeup and whatever else they do, and he asked me to please not to uncover while I am there, even if it's all women. I agreed but asked why? He answered that because they are not used to seeing someone who looks like me a lot and with my very long and honey colored hair it might cause bad eyes (that term again ) and he was afraid for me.
Of course it meant nothing but paranoia to me, but I understood it as a type of protection and took it as he probably meant it...tried to repress my defensive western desire to start the 'who the **** do you think you are to tell me what to do?'....at least for the day
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Jealousy is like salt and pepper, if you make the salt and pepper within enjoyable amount for sure you enjoy your food, but if you have a lot of salt in your food than you can not eat it…
Love is care, care means you will be happy for her happiness and sad for her sadness, you will always like to see her success, Normal for sure you feel jealous and that part of love and care.
If you are not jealous means you do not care than the love is gone away Yes it goes both sides male and female and have nothing about insecure because insecure come with no trust not with jealous but remember when the salt are too much than it turn to be night mare not love. sure we as egyptian have hot blood and we can easy get so jealous
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good one ahly. my husband is jealous but at the same time he trusts me and our love and is trying to work on the jealousy thing. i think its romantic
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Thank you for your kind words and yes there is some time mixes between words such jealous, trust and control and each one way different from each other... means no trust have nothing to do with jealous or control… and the same reverse.
Care = Love “some time feel jealous salt and pepper of the relation”
Trust = creating by commitments and same rule for both side. if no trust that can creat insecure.
Respect = no one can respect other unless he or she has respect them self than the respect for the partner come.
same vision for life+ same goal = if not than can be each one trying to control the other and lead him or her in only way he or she think and any other way are wrong
That why I say people mix the meaning of the word in wrong sentence.
If you ask your self if he never feels jealous about any thing concerning you, that means he does not care any more than where love went?
Wish you both all the happiness in the earth
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Once again I am truly grateful that people like you exist. Thank you for taking your time to try and educate some of us here. I for one appreciate your words and carefully read whatever you write. "Same vision for life+ same goal" that is simply one of the most important aspects in a relationship and one I believe a lot of people neglect to talk about before entering into a serious commitment. I think we assume because the mutual attraction is there then of course we want the same things, WRONG! Thank you again for bringing this to the forefront and for all your thoughtful posts.
Sincerely
Sarah
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Thank you so much for your nice and kind word, let say I did travel a lot and watch the behavior of people in different nationality and culture, the only true I found we all similar And the comments words always used he tray to control me, but he has to understand I am independent woman…. And he can say the same she is strong and I can not handle her…
And the true is very simple they both never had same goal or vision for life and they feel they are in computation between each other not in life relation
Same as any sport team they all has one goal and they all play together to achieve their goal and if one went down they all give him hand to come back up and the final result always count for the whole team. So of we have same goal and vision of life we should act the same way as any sport team than it is really life commitment. and any other way it is just short relation and it will end sooner or later... Wish you the best
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