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HB - why do you always have to stick your one cent into everything? Listen to me and listen really good cause I won't repeat myself. I don't give a care what you think about my posts or how you perceive my view. Seriously. It doesn't surprise me you would defend a classless girl who goes on vacation, flaunts her money and has sex with men in a middle eastern country. You go girl! Let's spread more deseases in the world.
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Seriously guys, I get it, you have no need to rip me apart anymore, go and live your lives hehehe... I cant say or do anything right on here so I give up.
trust me its not that important to any of your lives just mine...I came for advice, thats what I got.. I put my trust in strangers and to be honest I shouldnt have expected more than this. I dont know why I keep looking for the good in people, I really am stupid and naive.
To all the nice people out there.. good luck and chins up.. to all the meanies... heheheh .. well I think you know.
Try having a little generousity in your hearts to others, treat them as you would want to be treated...I still keep trying but get a good kick in the face but I will still keep looking for the good in people.
bye from raccoon eyes )
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quote:Originally posted by Penny: as the VISA hunter will happily pay up in Egypt if he thinks there is a chance of getting to a European country. They all know how to play the games they all advise each other on how to play them.
spot on as ever penny!
My husband payed for his Visa and airfare he is with me still after 3 nearely coming to 4years and im older he was not a hunter surely this cannot apply to every one .
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we all know how egyptian muslim men view women who has sex with them before marriage. Especially if it's casual sex without plans for marriage. Stop talking out of your ass HB and face the fact that what I said was true and you know it. My friends here did not screw their man under this type of situation and I resent the fact that you would even say that about them. Shows your ignorance, really.
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My ignorance you prat, you are the biggest, fattest, oldest most ugliest ingnorant she-women on here.
You have a husband of 17 months that you actually have spent 2 months with and you know everything about him! BS
You own a $1.5 million mansion, 2008 bmw and have your own business - but spend morning, noon and night on ES. Complaining you don't have money for your poor step son airticket. BS
You have an egyptain husband - but call egyptains Sand - N***ers. BS
You have a egyptain step son but refer to his home land as "mudd, concrete village playing in the dirt with no chance of college or a open future for himself". Like you are really do him a favour!
I have to ask myself " what on earth would your husband see in you" Then i remember that this is a man who puts the phone down on you on valentines day because he WANTS to leave his poor son in egypt because he can't be bothered to wait the 2 weeks for the his flight money. Yeah nice Guy.
Well they say like attracts like!
You post on another thread about my photo and i am ugly? You are so funny, i have no photo on here at all but hey who cares! You also post i'm in an unhappy marriage - WTF! BS I am sorry to dissapoint you but i am VERY happy.
For your 'friends' I did not say that they Sha**ed their men, What i did say was this poster didn't say she slept with her man straight away, do you ask your friends when they slept with men - no of course not. How you even have friends on here is a wonder, when they hear you speak of Egypt and its people in this horrible manner! I wonder if their husbands would like to be known as Sand N***ers by you!
You know betty my motto is 'If you nothing good to say, don't bother' - with you i do make an exception.
You betty your motto is 'I am full of Bu*****t, i talk Bu*****t i give everyone Bu*****t!
When did you say your hubby is coming? you said when he came you wouldn't be here anymore right? Well i wish he would hurry up so you can take your ignorant, old fat arse off!
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Maybe I am old fashioned when it comes to men, but I can't understand these women paying for their visits to Egypt. MEN should be the ones to pay for the trip and all the extra expenses.
A guy may look good and have all the sweet words, but at the end of the day, can love last when you end up living in poverty ?
Perhaps I am set in my ways, but I just could not imagine being with someone who is not educated and earning a good living.
On top of all this, most foreign women visiting here just don't understand the culture. To be spending time alone with a guy, paying for a hotel room for him etc, is not acceptable behavior.
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Most of the time it is just ignorance, JinJin, and it is a result of being brought up in another culture. Just like you are saying that you can't understand why women are paying for their visits, they don't understand why somebody else should pay for that. After all, they are doing this out of their own free will, nobody is forcing them to buy a ticket to Egypt...
What they forget, is the way their boyfriends are thinking. Of course they will not tell them how they think in real, and play the game with them. They wouldn't even mention that it is considered as unacceptable behaviour in real, they would throw in their own windows by that!
And perhaps there are enough men already so much westernised that they've started to think in another way. Often I've heard about such men that they wouldn't be able to live in no-touristic area's anymore. They have tasted from a very different culture, and it has influenced them. It's the same as immigrants who have lived abroad for a long time. It's very difficult to feel like they fit into their own culture again, after so many years.
I've heard stories about that. They are a foreigner in their new country, but they also are a foreigner in their own.
And that differences can look trivial to many of us, but they can have big results. Something innocent as walking with children in the park; it is something very small, but I'll show you the differences. Imagine I should take children for a walk in the park. Nobody should consider this as strange in my society. So, we are walking, the children are playing, and there are other people there, also walking, and looking to the playing children. We greet each other, unless we don't know the other, just out of polightness. The wheater is good, people are smiling, making little conversations and in the meanwhile the children are playing.
In cairo something like this should be impossible! First of all, a woman should never go to the park without a man. Second, a woman would never say goodmorning to a strange man. She wouldn't be able to make little conversations, the man might perhaps think that she was into something unaccepted....
Here it is perfectly normal, it happens all the time and it has no bad meaning at all. In Cairo it is impossible and would considered as unaccepted behaviour...
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actually scared to post on here now... due to fat trolls under the bridge, but honestly that reply was like a breath of fresh air HB... I am framing it.
And no doubt for even breathing I will get flamed from Lizzy.. but just wanted to let you know.. its a shame that someone can push a placid nice person this far and make someone say things that they wouldnt normally say.. it is against my nature to be mean, but I got pulled in too.
Still, well deserved and maybe when Lizzy leaves there will be more people posting on here cos she is scary as hell.
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well well, one whore defending another. I will not say more. HB come on now, you can take and twist all the posts that turn you on, you sick jealous cow, while you sit at your computer on your fat ass lonely with no attention from your husband. Yes, I have seen your ugly mug being passed around here. You are a real dog. You are a minipulating, unhappy bitch who cannot hide her jealousy. You just seem to trail after my posts and give your ignorant opinions. As for you sparrow, looks like you found a gay lover also. Watch out, she likes girls!
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quote:Originally posted by elizabethN: well well, one whore defending another. I will not say more. HB come on now, you can take and twist all the posts that turn you on you sick jealous cow, while you sit at your computer on your fat ass, lonely with no attention from your husband. Yes, I have seen your ugly mug being passed around here. You are a real dog. You are a minipulating, cunt. As for you sparrow, looks like you found a gay lover also. Watch out, she likes girls!
betty is that u??i think u let someone open yr es account!! sometimes yr super nice sometimes yr so mean!!! which is it today ?just a question??
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My ignorance you prat, you are the biggest, fattest, oldest most ugliest ingnorant she-women on here.
aww now happy bunny don't you ever know how to be nice and not attack people? So easy to bring out the true bitch that you are. Keep it coming I am laughing so hard.
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quote:Originally posted by JinJin: Maybe I am old fashioned when it comes to men, but I can't understand these women paying for their visits to Egypt. MEN should be the ones to pay for the trip and all the extra expenses.
A guy may look good and have all the sweet words, but at the end of the day, can love last when you end up living in poverty ?
Perhaps I am set in my ways, but I just could not imagine being with someone who is not educated and earning a good living.
On top of all this, most foreign women visiting here just don't understand the culture. To be spending time alone with a guy, paying for a hotel room for him etc, is not acceptable behavior.
well yes you are so right but whores will be whores paying for everything they can just to get a piece of ass from a man using them because they are so deserate for sex.
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Tina just calling the kettle black is all. Where have you been? Everything ok with you?
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thank you to the men who will confirm what I have been saying all along. It's people like happy bunny that support these types of behaviors in Egypt and she is married supposely to a egyptian? Guess she has no idea about the culture of her own man and children. SAD!
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well i went to waterloo yesterday shoppin and went to eat popeyes!!way so good then we hit the casino!!i so needed to get away for a day had fun!!! now im back today and yal makin me wanna pee my pants yal are so damn fnny!!!! especiall that lml she or he is a cock opps crock hahahahah i went to that cathrines store and their clothes was so ugly for fat women!!!! lane bryant beats them all to hell!!! i tell ya their clothes makes a woman wanna go naked!!!
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sounds like you have been having some fun! Did you win at the casino?? I love the slot machines. I can get addicted to them. Did you know the marriott in cairo has a casino? Just that egyptians cannot enter per the government.
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wow and hell no i didnt win like i have good luck hahahaha
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AAwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww im sorry for you in, im the same, never have any luck at the casino. I went to the marriot casino looking for work, but at the time there was none available. But i love the karaoke in Harrys bar. Ok well i must say i think its not wise to brag about having sex with a guy on here. i would never give details about it, its personal and i think 15000 memeber ect are not interested. I think iff you dont spread around here wht you have for egamle money, buisness ect its better too, alot of people are poor here and get sick of people rubbing there noses into it. they dont want to hear, People are not seeing you as a better person for this talk. I had nothing to offer my husband and he accepted me as i was, just me, hehehehh WE are not havin a easy time right now, but i know hes real, and i know hes not using me, i have no doubts. I dont know wht to say about yours, i hope iff you make a go of it it will work, i dont like seeing people hurt, but be aware there is alot of snakes in the desert, thats iff you have made up with him.
quote:Originally posted by yorkshire rose: AAwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww im sorry for you in, im the same, never have any luck at the casino. I went to the marriot casino looking for work, but at the time there was none available. But i love the karaoke in Harrys bar. Ok well i must say i think its not wise to brag about having sex with a guy on here. i would never give details about it, its personal and i think 15000 memeber ect are not interested. I think iff you dont spread around here wht you have for egamle money, buisness ect its better too, alot of people are poor here and get sick of people rubbing there noses into it. they dont want to hear, People are not seeing you as a better person for this talk. I had nothing to offer my husband and he accepted me as i was, just me, hehehehh WE are not havin a easy time right now, but i know hes real, and i know hes not using me, i have no doubts. I dont know wht to say about yours, i hope iff you make a go of it it will work, i dont like seeing people hurt, but be aware there is alot of snakes in the desert, thats iff you have made up with him.
shoot i think i cant go with u to a casion we are both loosers hahah u will make me more poor then i already am!!! seriously if and when i get to egypt we must go!!too bad our men cant lol
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have some people I know at the Marriott YR. One is the manager of the hotel. Let me know if you would like some assistance getting a job, I can email him or call him.
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Yes, I have seen your ugly mug being passed around here. You are a real dog.
Blah, blah, blah how many people have you said this one to? 5/10 maybe - Tina, YR, tiger,CFW and many more. You are such a lonely old twisted loser betty. No-one knows what i look like and if i WERE ugly i would still be better than you.
What bothers me most is that you will bring up an Egyptain boy and you have so much hate for his country, i really feel sad for him.
So you being nice now to the others? Ahhh maybe you need a few more friends.
Thats it i'm off, i really do have better things in my life than read the things the likes of you have to offer. I came to ES to learn and read about Egypt and what i have done is get into an arguement with the likes of you. The problem here on ES is NO-ONE pulls you up on your behaviour and lets it go, you go around bullying others and being mean and not many say anything to you but send me PMs. If someone doesn't agree with what you have to say, you treat them like Sh*t and follow them onto the other posts. Thats it, i'm gone. Bye to the nice people here and good ridence to the likes of you.
Little sparrow, listen to the good advice here, SOME will be able to help you i'm sure. Just laugh at people like betty because damn sure as soon as her hubby gets to the USA he will be gone, thats one thing i know for sure!
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such hatred for a women who is raising 3 small children. God help them is all I can say. Lonely? NO my life is enriched with wonderful friends and family, loser? successfully raised two beautiful smart girls at the same time running and managing my successful business. So you were alone in defending some tramp who comes to Egypt to have casual sex with muslim men still married by the way. Perhaps changing your id to a bird name also might suite you as two birds of a feather flock together. You come on here preaching how mean people are and look at you. Your are nasty just plain nasty. Oww and now, shall we throw you a going away party cause you think anyone cares that your leaving for a second or third time now? Have to make a formal announcement? Perhaps a article in Newsweek might be more suited. So your a fortune teller also? Can you really predict my future? Wow! Are you Silvia Brown? You think your all that and a bag of chips don't ya! Byeeeeeeee Bunnie I will miss your wonderful compliments and all your great opinions.
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Elizabeth, You said in another post you only behaved like you did because people had a go at you and you were defending yourself. Little Sparrow came on with her story and you felt the need to have a go. I agree talking about your sex life is wrong. We all make mistakes, she was just asking advice about the guy she had met. We should be here to help each other, with whatever advice we need. I would like to think if I need help I could come here
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this is way to long of a thread about mute issues. Don't know where you live, but honestly women that give themself so freely in a muslim country justs rubs me the wrong way. No wonder they think this way about foreign women. I used to wonder why but the more I read here I now understand why. When you ask for advice be prepared to hear the pro's and con's not just what you want to hear. I feel sorry for some of these men who get involved with these types of women that's all. Wonder if he knows he screwed a married women. I am sure she wasn't honest with him. So sad! So if you see me as "having a go" with her thats your opinion. Again, honesty can hurt but people need to hear it.
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Ofcourse everyone is allowed their opinion that is what a forum is about. But you were very personal against her, that is always my problem here. Voice an opinion yes but don't get personal. I'm Scottish it says that at as my 'from'!.
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again I was replying on what she wrote. Didn't make up anything. She opened herself up to get personal opinions here and some straight up facts. I don't have to justify myself to you certainly or anyone else here.
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I never said you had to justify yourself to me, why would you? I just wondered why you felt the need to personal insults, when you were obviously upset when others did the same to you?
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I am not into argueing with another idiot. Seems a few of you get off on this, going on and on and on. Caio!
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quote:Originally posted by elizabethN: condoms do not protect you from many different deseases.
Looks like you never used a condom.
quote:Originally posted by elizabethN: Don't need to use condoms I am married.
Ah yes right you are married and married people NEVER cheat. I wish it would be that simple.
Condoms - if used right - are the best protection agaist STDs. Only total abstinence is better, bettyN! Posts: 30135 | From: The owner of this website killed ES....... | Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:Originally posted by young at heart: Little Sparrow came on with her story and you felt the need to have a go. I agree talking about your sex life is wrong. We all make mistakes, she was just asking advice about the guy she had met. We should be here to help each other, with whatever advice we need. I would like to think if I need help I could come here
Why is it wrong talking about sex? Maybe I am agewise too far apart from other posting members but I don't have a problem talking about it - whether if its with friends or on an anonymous internet forum.
So she had sex with this guy, many other tourists do the very same thing, people have intimate contacts without hardly knowing each other incl. one-night-stands whether it's in Egypt or not.
And remember any kind of sexual contact in Egypt is considered 'haram' unless you are married to the other person. And 'orfi' marriage is definitely not to be considered a 'real marriage'. Really how many women are out there orfi-married or not and shagging an Egyptian man?
I just don't understand why people can't speak frankly on this forum and have to present themselves like angels just because out of fear to get judged by other readers.
Why not addressing sex incl. sex related problems on here? Why is it such a taboo??
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Tiger, I'm not saying people shouldnt discuss sex, but I think it's something you discuss with a close friend not on a forum unless that's what the forum is for. I think you'll find most people don't really need to know these things. You say we should be more open, well go ahead feel free to start the topic Posts: 4476 | From: Scotland | Registered: Mar 2006
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quote:Originally posted by young at heart: You say we should be more open, well go ahead feel free to start the topic
Uhhh, you shouldn't have said that. I start a poll but have to do so in the 'living in egypt' section! Posts: 30135 | From: The owner of this website killed ES....... | Registered: Feb 2004
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The common opinion about this might be negative against women, at the same time it is just as negative against the men. There is one who sells and one who buys. However, like we know the expression:'the receiver is as bad as the thief' and there would be no thiefs if there weren't any receivers, in common, people are a bit hypocrite in that. So, everybody who is not thinking far enough, is judging the woman in this, just like everywhere else. And if you really would think deep enough, it all doesn't matter at all, as long as the two who are involved both agree in this and don't have any relationships that are hurted by their behaviour...
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quote:Originally posted by ?????: The common opinion about this might be negative against women, at the same time it is just as negative against the men. There is one who sells and one who buys. However, like we know the expression:'the receiver is as bad as the thief' and there would be no thiefs if there weren't any receivers, in common, people are a bit hypocrite in that. So, everybody who is not thinking far enough, is judging the woman in this, just like everywhere else. And if you really would think deep enough, it all doesn't matter at all, as long as the two who are involved both agree in this and don't have any relationships that are hurted by their behaviour...
Well said, I agree. Lots og hypocrits around here. I enjoy always your posting
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quote:Originally posted by elizabethN: I am not into argueing with another idiot. Seems a few of you get off on this, going on and on and on. Caio!
Caio ? What a classy take off. Learn proper spelling then try words from different languages.... Posts: 6335 | From: Straight to my heart. | Registered: Sep 2007
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quote:Originally posted by ?????: The common opinion about this might be negative against women, at the same time it is just as negative against the men.
There is one who sells and one who buys.
True. The good example would be your husband.
He for example slept with another prettier and sexier woman while married to you.
I am not sure though who sold and who bought.
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Well, LML, I don't understand why you are making such efforts in husbands from other women. As far as I've read, I'm the third one today that becomes victim of your unfettered desire to get private information about members, companioned with the most disgusting language. وإلهكم إله ويجب ان يكون فخور بك
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quote:Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers: ^^^ Sash I was being sarcastic.
It`s such a relief to see you here again,Smuckers.Like a breath of fresh air,girl!!! Posts: 3833 | From: here,there,everywhere | Registered: Nov 2007
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