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Originally posted by Tilutine:
Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law.

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Happend to u a lot did it??
Or did the women that you said I LOVE YOU to turn you down???

Love means different things to different people, you can love someone and you can be IN LOVE with someone.

You may love someone because they make you smile, laugh and you care deeply for that person. You love your family is that sexual??

IN LOVE is to be 100%+ mad about them, you want to make them happy and you try your best to make sure that they want for nothing, fulfill their every wish and desire.

He/She is the first thing that you think about in the morning and the las thing that you think about just before you sleep.
 

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Originally posted by Tilutine:
Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law.

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Happend to u a lot did it??
Or did the women that you said I LOVE YOU to turn you down???

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Humor??
Question posted by this member tends to imply that this is our conception of love in the West... Silly question, silly answer!
 

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Originally posted by CanadianRose:
Tilutine,

Not just the 1st ... how about the 2nd .. 3rd .. and 4th .. heck we just hand out numbers ... we don't want to discriminate ... just joking

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Originally posted by 3okba:
I Wonder if it means sex? if not what does it mean then? I want answers from non arabians

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I wonder why Egyptians get most of their information from cassette tape Mullahs and their movies, instead of reading the literary classics of the west, or reading western philosophy?

Seriously, I know sex is two-folds for Egyptians; 1. to produce children with your wife, 2. to express sexual urges before marriage with in improper enterance and if you are well off - after marriage with a second younger wife.

For westerners love can mean;
love of family (yes in the west we love family, its because we are human like the Arabs); love of community (we are very socially active in our communities and seek to improve the lives of our own and world-wide);
love of material possessions (yes this can be a good and bad thing. I have family heirlooms that won't fetch $5 at an antique store, but because its a pocket watch that my great-grandfather brought from Norway in his political/religious exodus I will treasure it and can't believe the family trusts me with it );
love of a hobby or passion (love of baseball, football, or in my case books);
another pecularity to Arabs is the love of our pets (yes both my cats sleep with me, and I think love of animals is genetic because my daughter loves animals too);
romantic love (this is the most bizarre western deviancy off all, we don't only love a person for their looks, social status or money but we love a person for their weird habits, smile, appreciation of nature, what a person does for their family, community, or for perfect strangers, bizarre as it is couples who are married for a number of decades remark that the traits they love about their spouses/partners often have little to do with status, money, family relations, or looks. And that is the main trait that seperates westerners from the Arabs).

Hope that explains westerner's expression or reasons to love a bit better.
 

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Originally posted by Tilutine:
Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law.

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Happend to u a lot did it??
Or did the women that you said I LOVE YOU to turn you down???

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Humor??
Question posted by this member tends to imply that this is our conception of love in the West... Silly question, silly answer!

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it was a rhetorical question .

What about the Arab girls walking round tigh clothes, full make up, YOU were the one who said:

qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tilutine:
Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law. [/]

WHICH WOMEN WALK AROUND NAKED??? WHERE?? NEVER SEEN IT MAYBE ON THE NUDIST BEACHES OR CAMPSITES.

Some women are into one night stands, that's their thing, it's their life so wot's the problem? Does it affect you or your life?? WHAT ABOUT THE MEN THAT SLEEP WITH THE FIRST WOMAN THAT COMES ALONG IS THAT ACCEPTABLE??

Each person has their own set of moral standards what is accpetable to one person maybe unacceptable to someone else that's wot makes us unique and individual. Who are we to question them on what they do in their lives??.

It doesn't affect me in my life therefore I don't have the right to judge. It happens in Egypt and other countries not only in the west.
 

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tilutine:
Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law.

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Happend to u a lot did it??
Or did the women that you said I LOVE YOU to turn you down???

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Humor??
Question posted by this member tends to imply that this is our conception of love in the West... Silly question, silly answer!

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it was a rhetorical question .

What about the Arab girls walking round tigh clothes, full make up, YOU were the one who said:

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Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law. [/]

WHICH WOMEN WALK AROUND NAKED??? WHERE?? NEVER SEEN IT MAYBE ON THE NUDIST BEACHES OR CAMPSITES.

Some women are into one night stands, that's their thing, it's their life so wot's the problem? Does it affect you or your life?? WHAT ABOUT THE MEN THAT SLEEP WITH THE FIRST WOMAN THAT COMES ALONG IS THAT ACCEPTABLE??

Each person has their own set of moral standards what is accpetable to one person maybe unacceptable to someone else that's wot makes us unique and individual. Who are we to question them on what they do in their lives??.

It doesn't affect me in my life therefore I don't have the right to judge. It happens in Egypt and other countries not only in the west.

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Ok, you obviously don't get humor Read my posts again, read what an other poster, who understood what I meant, wrote above, and let's talk of it later.
 

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Originally posted by Batman, non-stop, righteous machine:
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Originally posted by ?????:
Don`t think that it`s different in Western countries, but different for men en women. Men seem to make two different subjects of it, and for women it has to be connected...

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I Wonder if it means sex? if not what does it mean then? I want answers from non arabians

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I wonder why Egyptians get most of their information from cassette tape Mullahs and their movies, instead of reading the literary classics of the west, or reading western philosophy?

Seriously, I know sex is two-folds for Egyptians; 1. to produce children with your wife, 2. to express sexual urges before marriage with in improper enterance and if you are well off - after marriage with a second younger wife.

For westerners love can mean;
love of family (yes in the west we love family, its because we are human like the Arabs); love of community (we are very socially active in our communities and seek to improve the lives of our own and world-wide);
love of material possessions (yes this can be a good and bad thing. I have family heirlooms that won't fetch $5 at an antique store, but because its a pocket watch that my great-grandfather brought from Norway in his political/religious exodus I will treasure it and can't believe the family trusts me with it );
love of a hobby or passion (love of baseball, football, or in my case books);
another pecularity to Arabs is the love of our pets (yes both my cats sleep with me, and I think love of animals is genetic because my daughter loves animals too);
romantic love (this is the most bizarre western deviancy off all, we don't only love a person for their looks, social status or money but we love a person for their weird habits, smile, appreciation of nature, what a person does for their family, community, or for perfect strangers, bizarre as it is couples who are married for a number of decades remark that the traits they love about their spouses/partners often have little to do with status, money, family relations, or looks. And that is the main trait that seperates westerners from the Arabs).

Hope that explains westerner's expression or reasons to love a bit better.

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Originally posted by 3okba:

you said love means a lot of things for you one of them family, yeah that what happens in movies not in the real life i read about life there in Europe and America no family responibilties are inside the parent's soul at the first little problem the easiest thing he/she can do is to leave the whole family to burn in hell not caring what will happen after and that doesn't mean all americans do like this but the most and i'm sure from what i'm telling.

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How can you say this? What evidence is there for this??

As to your other comments about Princess_leia's post, I think you didn't understand it correctly. She is describing a general sense of what people can love, I don't think it was personal to her.

Also, do you have any proof that Arabs are the most romantic on the planet?
 

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tilutine:
Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law.

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Happend to u a lot did it??
Or did the women that you said I LOVE YOU to turn you down???

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Humor??
Question posted by this member tends to imply that this is our conception of love in the West... Silly question, silly answer!

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it was a rhetorical question .

What about the Arab girls walking round tigh clothes, full make up, YOU were the one who said:

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Originally posted by Tilutine:
Yeah, in the West, love means sex, and women all walk naked in the street. Women there have no moral and sleep with the first man who passes by them.
That's the law. [/]

WHICH WOMEN WALK AROUND NAKED??? WHERE?? NEVER SEEN IT MAYBE ON THE NUDIST BEACHES OR CAMPSITES.

Some women are into one night stands, that's their thing, it's their life so wot's the problem? Does it affect you or your life?? WHAT ABOUT THE MEN THAT SLEEP WITH THE FIRST WOMAN THAT COMES ALONG IS THAT ACCEPTABLE??

Each person has their own set of moral standards what is accpetable to one person maybe unacceptable to someone else that's wot makes us unique and individual. Who are we to question them on what they do in their lives??.

It doesn't affect me in my life therefore I don't have the right to judge. It happens in Egypt and other countries not only in the west.

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And again, how can you say there are no morals in the West?

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Proof it then that west has morals and I'll believe you.
In the second hand ask any gurl from west who are in love with arabs and they will tell you that they are the best romantics on the planet.
 

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Originally posted by 3okba:

you said love means a lot of things for you one of them family, yeah that what happens in movies not in the real life i read about life there in Europe and America no family responibilties are inside the parent's soul at the first little problem the easiest thing he/she can do is to leave the whole family to burn in hell not caring what will happen after and that doesn't mean all americans do like this but the most and i'm sure from what i'm telling.

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I suggest you stop reading propaganda and go and see for yourself.

The ignorance of people like you never ceases to amaze me. So you've *read* something about Europe and America and now you feel that makes you authorized to tell Europeans and Americans how life in their country is – despite the fact that you haven't even lived there? Mabrouk! This sort of comment makes you look really intelligent!



 

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you said love means a lot of things for you one of them family, yeah that what happens in movies not in the real life i read about life there in Europe and America no family responibilties are inside the parent's soul at the first little problem the easiest thing he/she can do is to leave the whole family to burn in hell not caring what will happen after and that doesn't mean all americans do like this but the most and i'm sure from what i'm telling.

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I suggest you stop reading propaganda and go and see for yourself.

The ignorance of people like you never ceases to amaze me. So you've *read* something about Europe and America and now you feel that makes you authorized to tell Europeans and Americans how life in their country is – despite the fact that you haven't even lived there? Mabrouk! This sort of comment makes you look really intelligent!

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As there is badness in east societies there is goodness in west, but still do we have more good than west and I'm here till you proof the opposite.

by the way chinese do have morals in work only and they are fetid people

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you said love means a lot of things for you one of them family, yeah that what happens in movies not in the real life i read about life there in Europe and America no family responibilties are inside the parent's soul at the first little problem the easiest thing he/she can do is to leave the whole family to burn in hell not caring what will happen after and that doesn't mean all americans do like this but the most and i'm sure from what i'm telling.

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I suggest you stop reading propaganda and go and see for yourself.

The ignorance of people like you never ceases to amaze me. So you've *read* something about Europe and America and now you feel that makes you authorized to tell Europeans and Americans how life in their country is – despite the fact that you haven't even lived there? Mabrouk! This sort of comment makes you look really intelligent!

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Originally posted by ?????:
Reading the several opinions about sexual behaviours given by Western women doesn`t enlight me either, sometimes it`s reason enough to be very embarassed. Look around and see what`s published here, for instance.
Many times I can understand how these opinions about less morals are came into existance.
As everywhere society`s are composed by different levels. And as normal, some levels are overexposured. Reading some uncommon expressions about love and so on, it might be likely that Western society`s are composed by people who think this way.
To reassure you, it isn`t!
In my opinion, commonly people who are looking for partners by the internet are people who have problems to find one in real life. And there is always a reason why! Think about it before you get along with somebody like this!
Sexual excesses like cybersex recorded on pc`s by streaming webcams are NOT normal! Tell people how many times you had sex in one night also isn`t!
This has to be kept private and has to do with own emotions and spiritual bonds between people, and are not supposed to show in public.
Sometimes I think some people need to be raised up again...

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Originally posted by 3okba:
I Wonder if it means sex? if not what does it mean then? I want answers from non arabians

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I wonder why Egyptians get most of their information from cassette tape Mullahs and their movies, instead of reading the literary classics of the west, or reading western philosophy?

Seriously, I know sex is two-folds for Egyptians; 1. to produce children with your wife, 2. to express sexual urges before marriage with in improper enterance and if you are well off - after marriage with a second younger wife.

For westerners love can mean;
love of family (yes in the west we love family, its because we are human like the Arabs); love of community (we are very socially active in our communities and seek to improve the lives of our own and world-wide);
love of material possessions (yes this can be a good and bad thing. I have family heirlooms that won't fetch $5 at an antique store, but because its a pocket watch that my great-grandfather brought from Norway in his political/religious exodus I will treasure it and can't believe the family trusts me with it );
love of a hobby or passion (love of baseball, football, or in my case books);
another pecularity to Arabs is the love of our pets (yes both my cats sleep with me, and I think love of animals is genetic because my daughter loves animals too);
romantic love (this is the most bizarre western deviancy off all, we don't only love a person for their looks, social status or money but we love a person for their weird habits, smile, appreciation of nature, what a person does for their family, community, or for perfect strangers, bizarre as it is couples who are married for a number of decades remark that the traits they love about their spouses/partners often have little to do with status, money, family relations, or looks. And that is the main trait that seperates westerners from the Arabs).

Hope that explains westerner's expression or reasons to love a bit better.

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Princess_Leia at first recieve my greetings.

you said love means a lot of things for you one of them family, yeah that what happens in movies not in the real life i read about life there in Europe and America no family responibilties are inside the parent's soul at the first little problem the easiest thing he/she can do is to leave the whole family to burn in hell not caring what will happen after and that doesn't mean all americans do like this but the most and i'm sure from what i'm telling.

you as you said only love masterpieces football and so on.

By the way, don't let your cats sleep beside you it causes BARRENNESS for girls and women take care of this i'm not kidding this is a scientific truth.

and for the romantic one's I'm quite sure that we are arabs are more romantic than any other's on the face of the earth. and who can dare and say no?

take care of your self and read about making your cats sleep beside you its so dangerous.

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We are not fighting we are discussing so be quite dalia and say what ever you want in a good way instead of being rude.

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