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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MotherEgypt: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mimmi: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Madame M.: [qb] Orfi is never a good idea. There's a reason why they call it a *f@ck paper* [/qb][/QUOTE]But here in the west you do not even need an orfi paper. You can do whatever you want and it is nobodys business , so why is orfi so terribel. I think orfi is a good thing when you are serious about the relationship but not yet quite ready to get married it is like an engagement. And especially for westerns whats the big deal they could be with out any paper but the Egyptian partner needs one. For 2 Egyptiens I think it is different because of the culture and if the girl is left by the boy later so that is not good. But weserns are used to dating and living together so I see the orfi paper if the relationship is taken seriously like a kind of engagement and a possibility to get to know each other. I don't mean that you shoud get orfi married if you go to Egypt for one weeks holiday and do that during that time but really if you are in love with someone and it is a serious relationship I can not see anything wrong in it, if both partners take it seriously and are commited to each others. I know there are men and also women who do miss use the orfi thing [/qb][/QUOTE]orfi is more like a word than a real document ,those guys are asking for this paper to put the girl in studied situation to make her feel it is so serious but most of the time it is not that serious feel and it cost nothing or it would cost if the guy is low life and charge her some $ to get this paper done, but why orfi if i just can stay with my girl friend without any problems , most of my friends nver done this paper and they have succesfull relations for years now and they are just waiting for the right time to have a real wedding !! where her family can come and join his family to celebrate reall wedding. orfi comes up twice when the egyptian economy geeting realy bad , and no chances for marraige expenses , so it was a new wave in the Egyptian community starting from 1990 , mainly at the universities then out to the streets , ecnomy , old ages without marraige and finally the families and thier high demands when it comes to wedding , this reasons are acceptable regardless if orfi is right or wrong , sharm and hurghada Orfi is for different reasons , the guys offer this to show his girl how serious he is about being with her so he would get more points , in some areas in hurghada where the very very local people live will not accept a man and woman in a flat without document , then orfi comes up again to stand for 1 week love story !!! in 80 % in hurghada it would be no problem to live with your girl friend without any hassle but it is all depends where you will live , how is your guy looks like, does he look as a respecable man or just a junky or hibby guy you just got him out of the music box before meeting the land lord ,,it is more like a face control ,,,and this why some of them they stop acting normally and invite you for a cup of tea in his place but he offered you a cup of orfi instead. orfi gives the relation a sort of commitment to the girl (only if she treats it seriously ) , and this required money to find a flat and rent, so it would be easy for the guy (if bad one ) to have a new place and no more sharing 5 or 8 people one flat , smart way to get extra money , hun we need to pay for the water , hun we need to pay for gas Etc ....etc [/QB][/QUOTE]
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