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Djehuti asked in the thread begun by al Takuri if the Nok of Nigeria can be traced back to ancient boating histories. That brings up a question of my own about the Nok. I have a friend in Budapest whose father is a Nigerian Nok. She explained that their knowledge of their own history is dying and I'd like to do what little I can to possibly reveal exciting and meaningful things about their past. My additional interest in the Nok is that there seems to be some grounds to link them to the Japanese Noh tribe – Africans that migrated there near the 8th century AD. My post explores the issue further. I’d like to ask anyone if they have any information that could prove or disprove common ancestry between the Noh of Japan and Nok of Nigeria.
Thanks,
Marc Washington
African Roots to Ancient Japanese Population and Theatre
TEXT HERE FROM WEB PAGE: It is surprising that the origination of Northern Europe’s population can be pin-pointed with such accuracy to a specific people and specific time. In Nature, David Reich et. al. report that in the Upper Paleolithic Nigerians from 100,000 years ago arrived in Siberia. (a) Valery Pavlovich Alexeev, lecturing at Harvard University, concurs. He characterized the 30,000 year-old skeletons at Kostenki near Moscow saying: “The nose is very broad, similar to African or Australian. This strong development around the nose is not typical for Europoid but is similar to East African populations.” (b) From this population came the first Mongoloids, Eskimoes, & Indians of African phenotype. Pottery was found among the Jomon of Japan from ~ 10,000 BC. This was brought from Siberia in early migrations of fishermen. (c) The Jomon are called Mongoloid (yet, see pictures). But, Japanese researchers describe a Negrito heritage to ancient Japan as well. (d) The Ekven Eskimo (15) has descent from the Upper Paleolithic. Their mask (15) is from 5000 BC (my estimate) or earlier. It shows that some of these “Eskimos” (link 1) have Negro, i.e. African features. As stated, Northern Europeans (and Ekven are such) have Nigerian genes from Upper Paleolithic times. Proof? Reich et. al. write that a haplotype “... in the Nigerians is largely a subset of what is seen in the northern Europeans.” (a) Japan was populated from yet another route before the 10th century AD and that was from Southeast and Central Asia (e) from which by the 8th century arose its Buddhist population – also Negro (see pics 1, 2, 3). The Noh tribe of Japan terminates in the aspirant “oh” which serves also for the soft “k” which should be pronounced “Nok.” And today exists a Nigerian tribe known as the Nok. Are the Japanese Noh descendents from the Nigerian Nok? Consider: It was the Noh, also populating Japan from Southeast Asia (near the 8th century AD) that served as the source of contemporary Japan’s traditional theatre!!! The Japanese indeed call their theatre Noh and formally recognize its medieval origins. Noh masks used in contemporary traditional Japanese theatre are found in 7 - 14 (and see link 3). Do the Nigerian Nok have similar theatre, masks, and language? Do the Nok share Nigerian haplotypes with the Noh? Whether the ancestral Japanese Noh and the Nok of Nigeria share common origins is a matter deserving attention. Ultimately, S.E. and Central Asian cultures had African origins, geneticts claim. (e)
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^^LMFO I was just about to say! Such a theory could only be conceived in the Winter's way!! Posts: 26267 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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Full lips and wide noses on Buddha don't make him "black" in the African sense any more than narrow lips or aqualine noses make ancient Egyptians "white".
Buddha may have had quite dark skin, coming from India, but many people all over the world have dark skin. Dark skin indicates African ancestry no more than a narrow nose indicate west Eurasian ancestry.
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^^LMFO I was just about to say! Such a theory could only be conceived in the Winter's way!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lol yeah this definetly wreaks of J.A rodgers Afrocentricity, Clyde's hero!!!
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J.A rodgers is a QUACK!!!!!!!!! He is one of the worst Afrocentrics of the day he is even worse than Diop, but atleast he didn't marry a white woman like Diop lol
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^^Sure thing. Perhaps we will learn more about the West African- Japanese connection. LMAOPosts: 26267 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Underpants Man: Full lips and wide noses on Buddha don't make him "black" in the African sense any more than narrow lips or aqualine noses make ancient Egyptians "white".
Buddha may have had quite dark skin, coming from India, but many people all over the world have dark skin. Dark skin indicates African ancestry no more than a narrow nose indicate west Eurasian ancestry.
Hold it! We are going in circles here. After all this talk about race != skin color, we STILL are making the same generalizations and RESPONDING to them as such. Since when does BLACK = AFRICAN and BLACK = RACE as in AFRICAN RACE? Just because many of the OLDEST Bhuddas have features that can be called BLACK does not mean AFRICAN. Black is an ENVIRONMENTAL adaptation of the human body, period.
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