Tukuler
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Integrity of the ES archive has been violated by ES staff.
Once again vindictiveness on the part of a delete happy moderator has trashed contributions of the rank and file and in order to establish complete control of expression on the topic, reopened it in her own "private" realm, the Deshret forum, where the discredited Dynastic Theory of Asian origin of AE Civ can be revived with chosen opposition silenced.
Djehuti, Yatunde Lisa, Ish Geber, if anyone of you wants your posts to the original thread restored for posting here, just say the word. Ad Homina. tL likes to dish it out but can't take it. tL can diss any one of us with impunity at anytime knowing she'll suffer no consequences but Administration notified us to respect moderators or be chastised. What? A one way street with no fiat moderators respect the rank and file (should be a given).
Tukuler
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O Lioness theLioness wont you come out and play? We'll go down to the lake and shoo the swans away!
Introducing facial phenotypes for comparison is valid. What looks alike or looks different is subjective. So describing particular parts of the face is what anthro and forensics do. They call it non-metric analysis. To compare profiles the subjects are all placed tilted to the Frankfurt Plane --orbitale to tragion-- "to ensure accuracy and uniformity."
I wub ya bibi so won'tcha gather heads from pre-Dyn pallettes Bull Battlefield and 'Libyan', we did Narmer one already years ago.
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Interesting? The three images look very similar,the differences I notice is the middle picture where the subject has a high nose that lacks a hump,the big ear,the cheek not being as prominent and the head being mesocephalic instead of dolichocephalic.
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Integrity of the ES archive has been violated by ES staff.
Once again vindictiveness on the part of a delete happy moderator has trashed contributions of the rank and file and in order to establish complete control of expression on the topic, reopened it in her own "private" realm, the Deshret forum, where the discredited Dynastic Theory of Asian origin of AE Civ can be revived with chosen opposition silenced.
Djehuti, Yatunde Lisa, Ish Geber, if anyone of you wants your posts to the original thread restored for posting here, just say the word. Ad Homina. tL likes to dish it out but can't take it. tL can diss any one of us with impunity at anytime knowing she'll suffer no consequences but Administration notified us to respect moderators or be chastised. What? A one way street with no fiat moderators respect the rank and file (should be a given).
Thanks for this thread Tukuler
I defiantly want the Bull Pallet thread restored and also the thread started by Dr. Winters Asar Imhotep wrong about the word KMt, restored to the Egyptology thread where it belongs.
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Tukuler
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Valid objective non-metric observations there Thereal, specifying where they do or don't particularly look alike.
Better resolution for upper Bull Man now but had to swap order
Here's a tabled mix of what you and i observe.
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Right Center Left Nose projection - HI - Bridge to Forehead convex SMOOTH slightly concave? Ear size medium large small Cheek - mid PROMINENT Head shape DOLI MESO DOLI Nostrils turned up horizontal turned up Nose to chin slt tuck? vertical tucked
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The title of this thread is lie. I created a thread on the Bull Palette. People were insulting me in the thread. So I deleted the title of the thread and all my posts in it but nobody else's
So now we are here in this new thread and me deleting my own posts but nobody else's is called "censorship" which is a lie.
This new thread was posted and the old thread were up for a couple of days simultaneously
But the old that had no title, no opening post instead of some random replacement pictures. People had ample time to transfer their posts in the old thread to this new one Now the old has has now been deleted
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^^^^ you deleted the title, lurkers trying to follow the conversation might loose track.
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quote:Originally posted by Yatunde Lisa: ^^^^ you deleted the title, lurkers trying to follow the conversation might loose track.
The Egyptsearch Dynasty is coming to an end, due to mismanagement by some moderators, which has caused implosions over recent years. It's sad but true. This once great website no longer has that standard.
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Some dude has a Egyptology podcast with 7 million downloads..
Everyone posting here should be off doing their own thing..
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Tukuler
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It's a fact, the audience is with YouTube and Social Media. This type of forum board is a last gasp from the 20th Century. But hey, most of my life was lived in the 20th Century with or without a fox <<>>.
2010 - 2020 I seen * proliferation of the so-called "urban novel" * brick&mortar Black Book Stores shutter * culture & literature street vendors fall to urbannovelization.
but back on the topic
Was Peter Tosh & DeDanceRock was too much culcha, haha
Though the original BULL PALETTE thread was renamed "|" I could've easily restored anything missing via "quote"from my downloaded[ctrl+s]saved pages. I think an OP can blow away their entire thead by deleting their opening post w/o help from forum mods or admins.
In the future always quote in full when replying to ones known to go back later and change or delete their posts. Boycott replying to ones who misuse you or your contributions might have some effect, but U n I know ESers ain't gon do nunna that.
Never thought blx would have to protest for their rights here.
Bottomline: ES is what it is, take it or leave it.
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^ Yeah, I noticed what happened after I gave my last response.
What's funny is that one of her main arguments was that the motif of the winged sun disk was somehow Mesopotamian when the concept of a moving celestial body in the sky being a winged entity is found in many cultures throughout the world including the Americas, and the example she gave from Sumer was not even the sun deity by the chief sky god An! I also cited a paper showing that the specific winged sun symbol of Egypt known as the Behedet predated those in the Near East.
As far the features of stylized caricatures, again such an argument is based on assumptions of facial features and I already cited Budge showing plaited beards are specific to Africans NOT Mesopotamians.
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: O Lioness theLioness wont you come out and play? We'll go down to the lake and shoo the swans away!
Introducing facial phenotypes for comparison is valid. What looks alike or looks different is subjective. So describing particular parts of the face is what anthro and forensics do. They call it non-metric analysis. To compare profiles the subjects are all placed tilted to the Frankfurt Plane --orbitale to tragion-- "to ensure accuracy and uniformity."
I wub ya bibi so won'tcha gather heads from pre-Dyn pallettes Bull Battlefield and 'Libyan', we did Narmer one already years ago.
As I already pointed out in the deleted thread, the noses of Narmer's foes are different from the Sumerian example in that the Sumerian nose bridge is continuous with the glabella while those of the foes are not.
Prominent noses are not uncommon in northeast Africa including Egypt.
Modern Ethiopian
Modern Egyptian
Ancient Egyptians
Hatshepsut
Meresamun
Or maybe they could be 'Asiatic' after all...
Head of a Beduin from Syria KhM 3896b TILE; RAMESSES III/USERMAATRE-MERIAMUN
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Didja know Getty or was it Almamy labeled that Kushi Sashu a Nubian slave? Just one look, that's all it took.
What good are cut-the-check-Reparations when negro slave is at the back of every WestEurasian mind and the Arab outright calls blx abd, but they don't mean nuthin by it, right.
quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Didja know Getty or was it Almamy labeled that Kushi Sashu a Nubian slave? Just one look, that's all it took.
Yeah I saw it on the google image search. It was Getty. LOL
Did you know that the very existence of these black types in the Levant made some Egyptologists suggest that Tiye was herself of Asiatic ancestry due to the obvious black appearance of her bust?
quote:What good are cut-the-check-Reparations when negro slave is at the back of every WestEurasian mind and the Arab outright calls blx abd, but they don't mean nuthin by it, right.
Yeah, the conquest of Africa by the Arabs called 'Ghazw al Sudan' began in Egypt because it was originally considered Sudan until it was sufficiently colonized by Arabs that Sudan was limited to the south. Just a cursory look at the Ghazw al Sudan with the millions of deaths by jihad, enslavements including sexual enslavements and mass castrations, it makes me wonder how Islam became adopted as a "black" religion.
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quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Didja know Getty or was it Almamy labeled that Kushi Sashu a Nubian slave? Just one look, that's all it took.
lol
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The Bull Palette thread that was recently deleted.. was it archived? Is there a way to get my posts for my own notes?
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Tukuler
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You can have the full html on screen version of pg1 and pg2 up to the Reggae Dance Rocker post BUT you have to show how to upload full pages somewhere. You got maybe Aspera? Meanwhile remember to [CTRL + S] when suspecting moderator chicanery.
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I don't have aspera, but I am sure I can learn to upload HTML pages is I know where to go to get it
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Prominent noses are not uncommon in northeast Africa including Egypt.
Amazing post. We can be alsnog certain that some will try to create a narrative of genetic admixture that hypothetically happened x-amount years ago, that has nothing to do with them as a person.
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Tukuler
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In this particular case, a mummy, nasal shape results from breaking the nose so as to remove brain tissue after which peppercorns were stuffed up the nose.
Even animal mummy noses were peppercorned.
This isn't to say Ramses II didn't have a big nose.
Tukuler
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The Eye Sockets Are Filled With Onions is listed (or ranked) 7 on the list 11 Gross Steps In The Disgusting Process of Mummifying A Dead Body Photo: Avrand6/Wikimedia Commons/CC-BY-SA 4.0
How do you fill an empty eye socket? With onions, of course. And that's not the only edible that sometimes cropped up in the mummy-making process - peppercorns have also been known to be stuffed up the nostrils if they fell flat.
quote:Originally posted by Hamilcar: Why are you trying to draw conclusions based on a 2D unrealistic face ?
Btw these kind of nose are very common in the middle east that's why egyptians portray asiatics with it :
also Ramses II had that kind of nose :
These are Northeast African men. The first one is from the same region as, Ramses, the Valley of The Kings. I assume the second one is from the region of the Horn (but I am not sure).
Ramesses II's victory over the Cheta people and the Siege of Dapur (Syria) in 1269 BC during the campain against the Hittite Empire. Chromolithograph after a mural in Ramesses II's temple in Thebes, published in 1879.
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