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Just wanted to point out that to this day, the study of ancient Egypt is considered by many institutions to be part of Near Eastern Studies, even though none of Egypt is in the "Near East".....
quote: Archaeology of Egypt and the Near East: a Comparative Approach
This module emphasises the comparative study of archaeological, written, environmental, and art historical sources from Egypt, the Near East, and neighbouring regions.
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Our attachment to Egypt and the ancient Near East as the 'birthplace of civilization', where the foundations of modern societies were laid, remains as strong today as it has ever been. Yet our current picture of how prehistoric and ancient societies actually developed in those regions could not possibly have been predicted by earlier generations of scholars.
Processes leading to the origins of farming, cities, states, literacy, and empires - all of which developed first in these regions - are currently being rethought in the light of new archaeological data. And our understanding of early relationships between the societies of Middle East, North East Africa, South and Central Asia, and the Mediterranean are being transformed by new evidence for patterns of cultural interaction that cut across traditional frontiers of research. The emerging synthesis constitutes a radical challenge to conventional theories of social and cultural evolution, which this module sets out to explore.
Students enrolling for this module, whether as a core or option, will develop advanced perspectives on current debates in the archaeology of these areas. They will encounter evidence from across a large part of Western Asia and North East Africa, spanning Egypt, Sudan, Mesopotamia, Iran, Anatolia, Arabia & the Gulf, and the Eastern Mediterranean seaboard, as well as parts of Central and South Asia.
Each taught session uses applied case studies to address general issues of archaeological interpretation, with an emphasis on 1) new theoretical perspectives, 2) the understanding of long-term social change through comparative study of neighbouring civilisations, 3) the interpretation of interregional processes operating at a large scale. Case studies will range chronologically from the end of the last Ice Age (c. 10,000 BC) through the Neolithic and Bronze Ages to the Iron Age (c. 500 BC).
Topics to be covered include:
Egypt and the ancient Near East in world history Holocene environments, climate change, and human impact Neolithic transformations: worlds of the earliest farmers Global villages: the later prehistory of Egypt and the Middle East Origins of cities and states: a comparative perspective Emergence, functions, and development of writing systems Commerce, cosmology, and sacrifice: the movement of goods Ancient empires and imperialism: current themes and perspectives Between archaeology and art history: the transmission of images Body, gender, and power: changing constructs in Egypt and the ancient Near East
Aims of the module
To provide students with an advanced understanding of patterns and processes in the archaeology of the Egypt and the Near East To situate those processes within a broader comparative understanding of World Archaeology To familiarise students with new evidence for interconnections and cultural exchanges between the early Middle East and other parts of Asia, Africa, and Europe To familiarise students with the scientific methods now used to reconstruct processes of technological, economic, and environmental change
To explore the implications of Egypt and the Near East for the writing of global history, including its relevance to contemporary social theory and cultural heritage studies
Learning Outcomes:
To prepare students to undertake original research in world archaeology with an informed perspective on the archaeology of Egypt and/or the Near East To enhance students' ability in reading and debate through assessment and evaluation of alternative interpretations, and presentation of reasoned conclusions Recognition of the linkages between data, methods and ideas Application of the methods and theories of inter-disciplinary analysis Skill in integrating a variety of evidence from different disciplines into overall interpretations Proficiency in the setting out information and ideas clearly in written form Preparation for designing and operationalising research topics in this field, including the development of meaningful links between different scales of analysis (from the microscopic to studies of artefacts, landscapes, distribution patterns, and remote sensing from space)
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The Near East is a geographical term which roughly encompasses a transcontinental region comprising Western Asia, Turkey (both Anatolia and East Thrace), and Egypt (mostly located in North Africa, with the Sinai Peninsula being in Asia). Despite having varying definitions within different academic circles, the term was originally applied to the maximum extent of the Ottoman Empire.
The term Near East came into use in the 1890s, when European powers had to do with two critical situations in the "east".[1] The Sino-Japanese War in 1894–1895 in the Far East, and the Armenian Genocide in the Near East.[1]
British archaeologist D.G. Hogarth published The Nearer East in 1902, which helped to define the term and its extent, including Albania, Montenegro, southern Serbia and Bulgaria, Greece, Egypt, all the Ottoman lands, the entire Arabian peninsula, and western parts of Iran.
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Egypt is in the Near East as the term was defined Whether or not it's a good term is a different issue but it is somewhat obsolete
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The whole of North Africa is considered to be connected to "The Near East"or the Arab world.
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quote:Originally posted by Doug M: Just wanted to point out that to this day, the study of ancient Egypt is considered by many institutions to be part of Near Eastern Studies, even though none of Egypt is in the "Near East".....
[QUOTE] Archaeology of Egypt and the Near East: a Comparative Approach
This module emphasises the comparative study of archaeological, written, environmental, and art historical sources from Egypt, the Near East, and neighbouring regions.
ARCL0136 Egyptian Archaeology Through the Petrie Museum: an Object-Based Theoretical Approach
ARCL0159 Introduction to Ancient Egyptian Language
ARCL0147 Themes and Debates in Egyptian Archaeology ___________________________________
However one could argue even saying Egypt and the Near East suggest a link so it's better to not have a course comparing them and instead have a course called
Nile Valley Civilization
which would include Kush and other polities to the south
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below this headline are 3 large paragraphs of text in one it says
"The University of Pennsylvania has a long commitment to the study of ancient Near Eastern cultures of Mesopotamia, Syria, Iran, and Anatolia."
It doesn't mention Egypt anywhere in the text so it's like they are clinging to this old term but not saying how Egypt relates to it yet the headline is ANCIENT NEAR EAST AND EGYPTIAN It's like a hidden agenda to leave out something that would clarify why they think these should be grouped
Someone could write a letter to the chairs of these departments and say something to the effect "Near East" is obsolete and should not be used because historically it included Egypt and it is an arbitrary grouping hearkening back of Eurocentric concepts. Then if you really care about this you write to black student groups at UCLA and U Penn and try to get them to speak up and protest about if necessary. The time is ripe for protest
Then we have this term "Middle East"
according to wikpedia: __________________________
Traditionally included within the Middle East are Iran (Persia), Asia Minor, Mesopotamia, the Levant, the Arabian Peninsula, and Egypt.
The Middle East is a transcontinental region that generally includes Western Asia (except for Transcaucasia), all of Egypt (mostly in North Africa), Iran (transregional), and Turkey (partly in Southeast Europe) __________________________
Very similar and same problem
So in place of this you might have
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Modern Arabian
Ancient Arabian
Ottoman
Islamic Cultures
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and no Near East or Middle East
You could try to have clear statements that the Middle East does not include Egypt anymore but it's too late it's already has to much historical baggage where it includes Egypt.
Near East and Middle East have to be eliminated entirely and they are easily replaced with other existing terms
Doug writing here will be not have much influence. You need to contact black student organizations and black studies departments with a letter saying that "Near East" and "Middle East" are obsolete, arbitrary terms that should be replaced and they also separate Egypt from Africa.
Such a letter could be composed in an hour and then just do a mass send to the universities and student organizations. Also send to some of the left leaning student groups or professors who might be white but agree with the idea
It can be done if somebody puts the time in. The way to get things done is informing people all at the same time and coming up with a plan of action
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Lioness, has a point. 'Near East' is subjective, which is why not only is Egypt included but I've even read some sources where Sudan is also included. Not to mention the whole MENA designation.
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It's silly. When we know Egypt comes from the South within Africa and nothing to do with the "Near East". Especially when they have it backwards, which landmass belongs to which continent.
More Euronut garbage.
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The term "Near East" is a geopolitical term used by British and Europeans in reference to the lands of the Eastern Mediterranean, roughly occupied by the Ottoman Empire. For Europeans, the main issue was trade and to do that they needed to break through the Ottomans. As a matter of fact, all the terms Near East, Far East and Middle East are related to the same desire by Europeans to control trade routes.
The historical and archaeological connection between Near East in terms of trade and empire and historical and archaeological study started with the French invasion of Egypt. At that time, Egypt was at the forefront in the development of the early disciplines of archaeology and anthropology. Due to their defeat of the French, the British took most of the artifacts that the French had excavated in their campaigns. Also, it was the British who were allied with the Ottomans during this time going all the way back to the Crimean war and that peculiar relationship would be an important factor in the subsequent creation of the "Near East" as a framework for understanding ancient history. Subsequently to the French expedition, various European powers began to compete over who could excavate more artifacts and relics from Ottoman territories including Greece, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, The Tigris and Euphrates and so forth. And it is from that time that the term "Near East" became synonymous with the ancient lands and origins of civilization.
Unfortunately, the similarities in some aspects of ancient culture between the Nile Valley and Sumer caused some to identify a common origin for both cultures primarily somewhere in "Eurasia". This is why Flinders Petrie thought thought that there was an invading "race" from somewhere in the Red Sea of Upper Egypt that created the culture of the Nile. And that has influenced the direction of Egyptology every since where the ancient kingdom of KMT has been seen as an extension of the "Near East" and not Africa. This also is due to the fact that one of the primary definitions of civilization had to do with the origins of writing which at that time were said to have started first in Mesopotamia.
But even more significant to Europeans than the study of ancient KMT were the excavations of ancient Greek sites almost all of which were in Ottoman lands.
Almost all of the modern institutions studying ancient history owe their collections to the exploits and looting of the Europeans in the Ottoman Empire after the French expedition to Egypt. And that culminated after the First World War, when the Ottoman Empire was defeated.
Unfortunately, the similarities in some aspects of ancient culture between the Nile Valley and Sumer caused some to identify a common origin for both cultures primarily somewhere in "Eurasia". This is why Flinders Petrie thought thought that there was an invading "race" from somewhere in the Red Sea of Upper Egypt that created the culture of the Nile. And that has influenced the direction of Egyptology every since where the ancient kingdom of KMT has been seen as an extension of the "Near East" and not Africa. This also is due to the fact that one of the primary definitions of civilization had to do with the origins of writing which at that time were said to have started first in Mesopotamia.
What was this supposed "common" origin or similarity identified as a link? In terms of culture. I'm not seeing cross pollution between Sumer and Egypt.
quote:To cut the long story short, there were some similarities between ancient Egyptian and Sumerian Civilizations. In term of geography feature, the two arose near the river thank to the agriculture and trade. The people of the both nation were polytheistic and born for serving the gods and goddesses. About the both societies, they had the similarity of social classes: king, priests, scribes, nobles, and normal citizens. Meanwhile, many differences have found between the both civilizations. Natural barriers and the interpretation of great flood were quite different. The most important point that we should notice was the belief in the afterlife. The Egyptian thought the afterlife in positive way, but the Sumerian thought gloomy. Moreover, Egyptian government was led by only Pharaoh, while in Sumer there were many independent city-states led by their own kings.
Ancient Egypt was the birthplace of one of the world’s first civilization, which arose about 5,000 years ago. It emerged in the northeastern Africa near the Nile River. However, beside this, there was another civilization, Sumerian Civilization, which occurred in the southern Mesopotamian, now southeastern Iraq. This began 3,500 B.C. until 2,000 B.C. The two civilizations arose independently, and did not contact with each other, but later on. If we compared ancient Egypt with Sumer, we maybe see some similarities and some differences. Thus, what are the similarities? and the differences? In this essay, I have divided it into three parts in term of geography, religion, and government to make it easy to understand.
Meaning Finder believed that a "race" or a group connected to the Sumerians built Egypt on the Nile? That's a lot of leaping.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Lioness, has a point. 'Near East' is subjective, which is why not only is Egypt included but I've even read some sources where Sudan is also included. Not to mention the whole MENA designation.
Pure insanity
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The "Middle East" is based on a colonial reference. It's no less as bigoted as when they carved up Africa during the Berlin Conference.
quote: The origin of the term "Middle East" is considered to be in the British India Office during the 1850s. It was popularized by Alfred Thayer Mahan, an American naval strategist who was referring to the region between Arabia and India in 1902. Mahan's definition of the Middle East was the area around the Persian Gulf.
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Countries of the Middle East
Countries classified as being part of this region are Iraq, Iran, Cyprus, Oman, Egypt, Bahrain, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Palestine, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Israel, Syria, Kuwait, and Jordan. Some countries are occasionally added in the definition such as Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia. Other nations are quoted in the affairs of the Middle East such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria.
quote:First used in 1856, the term “Near East” was defined specifically against the Far East and referred to the region in Asia that’s west of India. Today, the region of the Near East is imprecise and overlaps with the Middle East. It typically refers to southwest Asia, particularly Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and other nations of the Arabian Peninsula. It is not as commonly used as “Middle East.”
So where is the Middle East? Well, it depends on who you ask. The phrase “Middle East” was first used in 1876 as a synonym for “Mesopotamia,” which literally meant “between rivers” in Ancient Greek, specifically between the Tigris and Euphrates in modern-day Iraq. Over time, it has come to describe the region stretching from Egypt and Sudan in Africa to Turkey in the north to Iran. Oddly, in Asia, what we call the “Middle East” is called “Western Asia.” If you look at a map, that makes sense.
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"Middle East" and Near East" need to be ended as well as "North Africa".
"North Africa" has at least 4 different interpretations each with substantial differences in territory
Instead of North Africa it's an improvement to use one of these:
Maghreb
Nile Valley
Sahel
Using these terms only is an improvement over using these terms but also using the ambiguous "North Africa"
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quote:Originally posted by HeartofAfrica: Meaning finder believed that a "race" or a group connected to the Sumerians built Egypt on the Nile? That's a lot of leaping.
That is what white supremacy does. How is this different from Richard Spencer, when he said "it all about winning"? "As long as you win it's ok". And we have seen this in genetic papers, archeology papers, anthropology papers.
Let's. not forget that a lot of academic work is sponsored by the Koch brothers.
"The power of the Koch brothers’ money in higher ed goes far and wide, and aims for impact"
I mean it completely rewrote is history of a people who lived there for thousands of years. Al Hajiz wrote about the region almost a millennium earlier.
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^ LOL So the Koch Brothers are getting in that act too I see. They are amateurs. The Kellog Foundation, Carnegie Institute, Kresge Foundation and others. Funny how all these major non-profit educational foundations are founded by 'blue-blood' German families.
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What was this supposed "common" origin or similarity identified as a link? In terms of culture. I'm not seeing cross pollution between Sumer and Egypt.
Most of those links are based on things like the various Palettes and other predynastc items having certain artistic motifs said to have been influenced by Sumerian styles. Then there is the origin of agriculture having been identified as originating in the "Near East". And also for a long time it was suggested that the building of Pyramids was based on the tradition of Ziggarut building in Mesopotamia. The theory was these traditions were introduced via the red sea into the Upper Nile Valley and is the origin of the "Dynastic Race Theory".
The following Wiki page lists many of these links.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ...Ironically the very origins of Greek civilization and its people make it clear that Greece not Egypt is a much better candidate to be labeled "Near Eastern".
Break that down more. In what way are the Greeks a better candidate to be labeled "Near Eastern"?
Unlike Egypt, whose cultural roots were indigenous to Africa, Greek culture is the one that should really be thought of as a byproduct of the so-called 'Near East'. Both archaeology and genetics prove that after the initial habitation by Paleolithic European hunter-gatherers, there were at least 3 main waves of migration to Greece through the Aegean islands from Asia-- the 1st of course being the Neolithic migrants who brought farming and permanent settlements which was the largest wave, the 2nd being the Bronze Age migrants who brought bronze and brass metallurgy which was a smaller wave, and the 3rd wave being the smallest during the Archaic Period who brought artistic styles from Cyprus and the Levant hence the Archaic is also known as the 'Orientalizing' period.
This is why ancient Greek culture itself holds way more similarities with Near-Eastern cultures than ancient Egyptian culture ever had! Western scholars have known this for centuries but only a handful have been blatant about it. These Asiatic features of Greek culture are too many to list and deserves a thread of its own. I will say these features definitely include Greek religion both practices and some of the myths. It has been touched upon in this forum multiple times on past threads though:
This is why Eurocentrics are total hypocrites when they dare label Egypt as 'Near Eastern' but not Greece!
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@ Djehuti Eurocentrics being moody & obfuscating again as usual. Both Middle East & Far East are illogical geographic terms that only indoctrinate geographically challenged US & Euro minds even more haha.
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Speaking of Sudan National Geographic had an article where Sudan was looked as becoming the "breadbasket" of the "Arab World"! This was from the 90's, what arognance to use an African Nation as a plantation for racist Arab & racist Arab indoctrinated lands.
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quote:Originally posted by Tehutimes: @ Djehuti Eurocentrics being moody & obfuscating again as usual. Both Middle East & Far East are illogical geographic terms that only indoctrinate geographically challenged US & Euro minds even more haha.
Actually the terms are not illogical at all. The problem with the terms is that they are subjective. 'Middle East' and 'Far East' are perfectly logical terms but they are in reference to Europe itself, that's the problem. To create geographic terms in relation to their position to Europe is the nature of Eurocentrism. The only reason why I still use those terms and many in academia also do is because the terminology need not apply to relations to Europe but to Africa as well. So 'Middle East' and 'Far East' are positioned as such to Africa too.
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan aka Enrique Cardova:
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ...Ironically the very origins of Greek civilization and its people make it clear that Greece not Egypt is a much better candidate to be labeled "Near Eastern".
Break that down more. In what way are the Greeks a better candidate to be labeled "Near Eastern"?
Unlike Egypt, whose cultural roots were indigenous to Africa, Greek culture is the one that should really be thought of as a byproduct of the so-called 'Near East'. Both archaeology and genetics prove that after the initial habitation by Paleolithic European hunter-gatherers, there were at least 3 main waves of migration to Greece through the Aegean islands from Asia-- the 1st of course being the Neolithic migrants who brought farming and permanent settlements which was the largest wave, the 2nd being the Bronze Age migrants who brought bronze and brass metallurgy which was a smaller wave, and the 3rd wave being the smallest during the Archaic Period who brought artistic styles from Cyprus and the Levant hence the Archaic is also known as the 'Orientalizing' period.
This is why ancient Greek culture itself holds way more similarities with Near-Eastern cultures than ancient Egyptian culture ever had! Western scholars have known this for centuries but only a handful have been blatant about it. These Asiatic features of Greek culture are too many to list and deserves a thread of its own. I will say these features definitely include Greek religion both practices and some of the myths. It has been touched upon in this forum multiple times on past threads though:
This is why Eurocentrics are total hypocrites when they dare label Egypt as 'Near Eastern' but not Greece!
Good roundup. I saw some of the later posts but missed the classic debates back in 2005/06 with Rasol, Supercar, yourself, etc etc and "Hammer" and "Nord" etc where they were comprehensively debunked. Good summary.
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^ And to be fair, Egypt experienced some immigration of Asiatics as well probably during the Neolithic, but definitely by the end of the Old Kingdom with pre-Hyksos immigrants to the Hyksos invasion of the Middle Kingdom and afterwards. The only differences were that these Asiatic immigrants were largely confined to the Delta where the minority of the Egyptian populace lived during dynastic times and more importantly they largely assimilated into Egyptian culture. This is different from the ancient Greeks who by and large were Asiatic immigrants and their culture being predominantly Asiatic in nature.
For example Hesiod's 'Theogony' is actually more based on the Hittite myth 'Kingship from Heaven' which is the same as the Hurrian 'Song of Kumarbi', and not the later Phoenician Sanchuniathon of Levantine origin. Homer's cosmogony is also similar to that of the 'Enuma Elish' of Babylon. The Greeks have beliefs of the 'evil eye' and the apotropaic eye seen in the Near East. They had baetyls (sacred rocks), sacred wooden pillars, and trees that represented their deities like Asiatics. The women even have the same custom of beating their breasts clenched fists in bereavement and mourning or striking the ground with the palms of their hands in earnest pleas like to bear children or for protection of children. Again, there's a lot that I need to compile in a separate thread.
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^ And to be fair, Egypt experienced some immigration of Asiatics as well probably during the Neolithic, but definitely by the end of the Old Kingdom with pre-Hyksos immigrants to the Hyksos invasion of the Middle Kingdom and afterwards.
A point some "enthusiasts" of the "all was African until the white Greeks showed up" school seem to have missed.
For example Hesiod's 'Theogony' is actually more based on the Hittite myth 'Kingship from Heaven' which is the same as the Hurrian 'Song of Kumarbi', and not the later Phoenician Sanchuniathon of Levantine origin. Homer's cosmogony is also similar to that of the 'Enuma Elish' of Babylon. The Greeks have beliefs of the 'evil eye' and the apotropaic eye seen in the Near East. They had baetyls (sacred rocks), sacred wooden pillars, and trees that represented their deities like Asiatics. The women even have the same custom of beating their breasts clenched fists in bereavement and mourning or striking the ground with the palms of their hands in earnest pleas like to bear children or for protection of children. Again, there's a lot that I need to compile in a separate thread.
Interesting, haven't seen before. Is some of this from Bernal, or a roundup of other writers you might put together later?
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Greeks are really "Arabs in pants," is what I always heard. There's much the two share in cuisine and music. Goes back to Hellene days if not Kadmos of legend. Many Italians, though recognizing themselves as "Caucasian" in the USA sense of the term, will say "I'm not white I'm Italian." Perhaps this remains from imperial Rome where they distinguished themselves from the lighter barbarians to their north and the darker folk south of the Mediterranean. See Aristotle, Martial, and Manilius.
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Isn't a large chunk of European ancestry across the subcontinent also from Neolithic Anatolian farmers? I agree with Djehuti that a large chunk of ancient Greek culture is derived from the so-called "Near East", but with respect having ancestry from that region, I dunno if the ancient Greeks would have stood out too much from other Europeans.
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Given that much of Greece and Rome's culture is strongly derived from Assyria, Sumer, Persia, Babylon and so forth, it begs the question why they aren't considered part of the ancient "Near East". Not to mention the obvious influences from KMT on Greece and other North Africans on the Minoans. I mean Africans feature prominently in Greek epics, such as the Odyssey and the Iliad.
Not to mention that since the 15th century Greece was part of the "Near East" since Greece since the rise of Byzantine Rome and the later conquest of the Byzantines by the Turks. Greece remained in the "Near East" until the Ottomans were defeated in World War 1.
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This blew my mind, is really outtasite man!
What would a 'mainstream' book produced by assorted ES heavies read like? Is such a work even poosible? Beyond possible, it's already happened inna manner of speaking.
I'm talking about the 1st chapter of straight out of South Yorkshire Garry J. Shaw (2017) War and Trade with the Pharaohs: an archaeological study of Ancient Egypt’s foreign relations
S'bout as close as its gonna get for now. I'd post a few screenshots but no img hosts can seem to upload any of my stuff today. Tomorrow?
quote:Another World (10000–2584 BCE)
Twelve thousand years ago, there was no Egypt and no Nubia, no borders or nations, just an expanse of land in north-east Africa, where people spent their lives hunting and gathering food. Their world consisted of the land along the banks of the Nile and, further west, the lakes and grasslands fed by sporadic torrential rains in what today is entirely desert. Wandering this savannah, in small groups, people hunted animals using weapons of stone, wood, and bone, fished, and gathered plants to eat. They moved with the seasons, covering great distances, and probably shared whatever food they gathered among the group. Lions, elephants, ostriches, and giraffes still roamed the vast plains.
Life in Egypt might have continued this way indefinitely if climatic change hadn’t intervened. From around 5300 BCE, the savannah west of the Nile started to become increasingly arid. The lakes dried up. People had to adapt. Some chose to move east and settle on the banks of the Nile. Others travelled south into Nubia, to live in the fertile zone around Kerma, near the Nile’s Third Cataract. Established in their new environment, these early people of the Nile now adopted another south-west Asian innovation (one known there since the tenth millennium BCE): plant cultivation. With the introduction of domesticated grains – emmer wheat and barley – in around 5000 BCE, many Egyptians settled down to sedentary lives of farming. They founded settlements along the thin band of cultivable land flanking the Nile, following its course, causing these villages, despite their distance from one another, to become part of an interconnected chain. This brought challenges: notably, each village had to get on with its neighbours –
Let’s All Meet Up in the Year 5000 (BCE)
By the fifth millennium BCE, the disparate tribes living along the Nile had merged to form distinct cultural groups, marking the start of a phase known as the Predynastic Period (i.e. a time before successive dynasties of kings came to rule the whole of Egypt). In northern Egypt alone, three separate cultures co-existed: Lake Qarun in the Faiyum Oasis; the western edge of the Delta [] Merimde Beni-Salame; the el-Omari Culture - east bank of the Nile.
Further south, in Middle Egypt, another cultural group had developed in the region of modern el-Badari – referred to as ‘Badarians’ by scholars. From 4400 to 4000 BCE, Badarian material culture, including their distinctive pottery, could be found at sites dotted across Upper Egypt, south of their heartland.
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quote: Badarians also had access to copper, probably gained this copper directly from Levantine groups mining across the Red Sea in the Sinai; the Badarians placed Red Sea shells in their graves and sometimes buried their dead in the Wadi Hammamat – a route through the Eastern Desert, connecting the Nile Valley with the Red Sea – showing that they knew this region well; it was therefore probably somewhere along the Red Sea coast that they met and traded with these Levantine miners.
At the same time, the increasing aridity of the Western Desert continued to force people eastward, out of the dying savannah and into Middle Egypt; these settled among the Badarians, bringing along their own material culture, which the Badarians adopted. Nubians of the Abkan Culture (see below) travelled north too, and had a similarly strong influence on the Badarians; for one, the Badarians started producing black-topped pottery, characteristic of Nubian material culture, and adopted Abkan stone tools.
The Abkan Culture flourished in Nubia between the Nile’s Second and Third Cataracts from the start of the fifth millennium BCE. They relied mainly on fishing and gathering to sustain themselves, and so built their settlements close to the Nile. They may have bred and raised goats on a small-scale too. Though producing their own distinctive pottery and stone tools, the Abkan Culture was connected with another Nubian group, who lived further south along the Nile: the people of the Khartoum Neolithic (ca. 4900–3800 BCE). Unlike the Abkan people, these kept domesticated cattle and grew crops.
As the years passed, each of these cultures continued to evolve, expanding their territory, merging, developing their technology, and influencing one another. In fact, by 4000 BCE, they had changed so radically that north-east Africa’s cultural map had been rewritten. The various cultures of Egypt’s north had by now coalesced into one dominant group: the Lower Egyptian Culture (also referred to by scholars as the Maadi-Buto Culture); in Middle Egypt and Upper Egypt, the Badarians had given way to the Naqada Culture (named after the settlement of Naqada); and in Lower Nubia, a Nubian culture called the A-Group lived concurrently with, and then replaced (or developed from), the Abkan Culture in the Second Cataract region. To the west, other distinct cultures continued to live in the oases and around the increasingly dry water sources of the expanding Sahara.
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quote: The Rise of Naqada Culture and Its Connections with the A-Group
While the Lower Egyptian Culture was busy developing their relations with the Levant, in southern Egypt, around 4000 BCE, another distinct culture had developed, with major centres at Abydos, Naqada, and Hierakonpolis, and associated settlements a little further north and south; as a whole, this is referred to as the Naqada Culture. The Naqadans appear to have co-existed with the Badarians before absorbing their territory, and may even have been a related culture. Just like the Badarians, the early Naqadans continued to use copper, hammering it into shape to make harpoons and bracelets, among other objects, and sourced gold and electrum from Nubia and the Eastern Desert. Their other trade connections were far more wide-reaching: the owner of Tomb 1863 at Naqada, from around 3600 BCE, was buried with a cylinder seal, probably from Mesopotamia, and a tomb dated from 4000– 3500 BCE contained lapis lazuli from Afghanistan; these foreign prestige goods probably entered Egypt via Buto, brought on ships from the northern Levant. (Indeed, it is perhaps through this route that various Mesopotamian motifs entered the Naqadan artistic repertoire.) The Naqadans’ fondness for luxury goods – and particularly foreign imports – led to their society becoming highly stratified by around 4000 BCE; basically, ownership of the right items flaunted your status for all to see, separating the haves from the have-nots. And in death, you made sure to take it with you.
Early in the fourth millennium BCE, the Naqadans shared many aspects of their culture with that of the A-Group, a Nubian people, living just north and south of the Nile’s First Cataract. Culturally, however, the two slowly separated as the centuries passed: the A-Group moved south of the First Cataract, and eventually expanded down to the area around the Second Cataract (although some continued to live north of Aswan too). Living in a semi-nomadic and stratified society, A-Group Nubians travelled from campsite to campsite, and buried their dead in oval or rectangular graves, along with items reflecting their personal wealth: pottery, jewellery, female figurines, and Naqadan imports.
In exchange for Naqadan beer, wine, flint knives, cosmetic palettes, and stone vessels (among many other items), A-Group Nubians traded ebony and ivory, animal skins, ostrich eggs, and – perhaps most importantly – gold, sourcing many of their luxury goods from further south in Upper Nubia. To facilitate the movement of these items, the Egyptians and A-Group Nubians established trading outposts along the Nile, with one important outpost constructed at Elephantine in around 3300 BCE; this area would be closely associated with trade for the rest of Egyptian history (in fact, the Ancient Egyptian name for the nearby town of Aswan was swenet, meaning ‘trade,’ from which the modern name derives). Another outpost, active from around 3500 BCE, and for 500 years afterwards, was at Khor Daoud, close to the Wadi Allaqi in Nubia; this outpost had 578 storage pits, seemingly for oil, wine, and beer.
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quote: The Expansion of Naqada Culture: 3500 BCE
By around 3500 BCE, Naqadan culture had already spread across Upper Egypt and into Lower Nubia. Northern Egypt would be their next target. Probably motivated by the desire to control access to Levantine prestige items, over the following centuries the Naqadans came to be the dominant culture in the region. Lower Egyptian Culture vanished from existence, perhaps in part due to their peaceful acceptance and assimilation of southern material culture, and in part because of forceful domination. Although there’s little evidence for warfare between the north and south, the Naqadans certainly enjoyed celebrating violence. Symbols of strength and power were an important aspect of Naqadan art: they produced ceremonial mace-heads, for example, and among the painted decoration of Tomb 100 at Hierakonpolis, there’s an early scene of a man smiting an unfortunate victim (imagery known as ‘smiting scenes’).
The Naqadan expansion can be neatly illustrated by returning to Tell el-Farkha. After an increase in Naqadan goods – and thus interaction – by around 3300 BCE, the village was totally dominated by their southern neighbours. An extensive domestic area, including the massive brewery, was destroyed, and upon its ruins, the Naqadans built a huge residence and storage area – a complex that would often be rebuilt over the coming years. Levantine pottery, seal impressions, and tokens – all evidence of the building having a major role in trade between the east and south – were kept there. This building was eventually destroyed by fire, and replaced by an administrative-cultic centre; nevertheless, this new complex continued to serve as a storage area for Levantine imports.
The main imports from the Levant at Naqadan-controlled Tell el-Farkha were wine, olive oil, copper, and bitumen. In return, the Naqadans offered grain, meat, and probably also beer and pork. The only pig bones found by archaeologists at Tell el-Farkha were the parts with the least meat, suggesting that the Naqadans sent the meat-rich parts of the pigs elsewhere. The Naqadans may also have exported Nile fish to the Levant: archaeologists found copper harpoons at Tell el-Farkha, as well as other evidence for a fishing industry, but – curiously – no fish bones. Nile fish bones have, however, been discovered in the Levant, contemporary with this phase of Tell el-Farkha.
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Too bad chiefs is retained.
quote: Interactions with Nubia and the Levant at Unification
Towards the end of the fourth millennium BCE, Egypt as a whole became politically and culturally unified under a single king. This marks the end of the Predynastic era and the first phase of Egypt’s Pharaonic Period: the Early Dynastic Period, covering the 1st and 2nd Dynasties (ca. 3100–2584 BCE). However, it still isn’t exactly clear when, and under whom, unification occurred, a matter further complicated by the identification of a number of obscure yet powerful ‘proto-kings’ that precede the traditional 1st Dynasty, referred to by Egyptologists as ‘Dynasty 0.’ Typically, however, Egypt’s first true king is thought to be King Narmer, last ruler of Dynasty 0, with Hor Aha normally cited as the first king of the 1st Dynasty.
One Dynasty 0 ‘proto-king’ was buried within Tomb U-j at Abydos, a large burial that contained a great number of imported goods, emphasizing its owner’s importance: among them was a large obsidian bowl – the obsidian probably imported from Ethiopia – and 500 wine vessels, many possibly imported from the Levant. The tomb also contained the earliest known hieroglyphs, inscribed on small labels once attached to grave goods; although there’s currently no consensus on how these labels should be read, it’s possible that they refer to the royal estates from which the goods were sent.
While the Egyptians were consolidating their territory, a centralized kingdom was also developing in northern Nubia under the A-Group. By this time, A-Group Nubians had settled at Dakka and Afia, as well as at Qustul, near the Second Cataract of the Nile, where they built the largest and wealthiest graves in A-Group Nubia, either for rich members of the elite or for their kings. The graves of these late A-Group Nubians, and in particular those at Qustul, included large amounts of imported pottery and stone vessels from Egypt. Among the Egyptian imports unearthed at Qustul, for example, archaeologists found a breccia-mace head, a copper spearhead, cosmetic palettes, and maces with handles sheathed in gold. The A-Group also imported some items from the Levant, which probably passed through Egyptian traders. Markings made by the A-Group on official seals, placed on goods, might connect these items with individual Nubian chiefs, and so could represent the first steps towards a Nubian writing system.
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quote: At this point, late in the fourth millennium BCE, the Egyptians and the A-Group Nubians still enjoyed friendly relations. Egyptian and A-Group traders continued to meet at Elephantine to exchange goods, and the typically A-Group practice of cattle burial is attested at Hierakonpolis in Upper Egypt. Archaeologists have also excavated an A-Group grave at Abu Sir el-Malaq in Middle Egypt, showing that at least one Nubian lived and died far from home. Despite the increasing cultural separation between them, for the time being, ideas and goods continued to flow between Egypt and Nubia.
At the close of the fourth millennium BCE, the Egyptians suddenly developed a more aggressive attitude towards their neighbours to the south and east. Why this happened, we can only speculate, but it was perhaps a result of the Egyptians wanting to remove the ‘middlemen’ from the trade networks.
From the south, the Egyptians craved the exotic items of Upper (southern) Nubia and beyond, so they aggressively expanded their sphere of influence deeper and deeper into Lower Nubia, creating conflict with the A-Group. Glimpses of what happened next can be seen in two rock carvings at Gebel Sheikh Suleiman, just south of Abu Simbel: the first carving shows the serekh of an Egyptian king (a royal symbol, normally containing a king’s name) holding a Nubian prisoner by the neck, while to the right, a further prisoner, with an arrow in his chest, is tied to a boat. Four drowned enemies are beneath. In the second carving, there’s a large scorpion, probably representing an Egyptian king, and three figures: one bound, one holding a weapon, and the other holding a bow and arrow. As these carvings show, Egypt’s friendly relationship with Lower Nubia had ended. Violent raids must have become common. In a desperate attempt to save themselves, the A-Group abandoned Qustul – the probable capital of their emerging kingdom that would never be – but it was a futile move: by 2800 BCE, the A-Group, as a distinct cultural entity, had disappeared from existence, leaving Lower Nubia depopulated for the next 400 years. The Egyptians and Nubians, up until this point culturally intertwined, now firmly parted ways.
The people of the southern Levant – the Egyptians’ trading partners for many centuries – received equally hostile treatment; with most of Egypt’s eastern trade imports now arriving directly by ship from the northern Levant, the Egyptians saw no reason to treat their former allies as friends: Just as they’d done with the A-Group in Nubia, the Egyptians had removed the pesky ‘middleman’ of the southern Levant.
By the end of the Early Dynastic Period in around 2584 BCE, Egypt had already risen as a state, wiped out a unique Nubian culture, ruined relations with the southern Levant, solidified relations with Upper Nubia and the northern Levant, and had woven itself into the long distance trade networks of the then known world. Prestige items – commonly agreed symbols of status, marking the high from the low – flowed into Egypt from the south and east, feeding the insatiable hunger of the newborn state’s developing elite for the exotic. The Egyptians had tasted power, invented enemies, and asserted themselves on the world stage. Their actions over the following centuries would expand and strengthen their growing State, develop their sense of identity, and ensure that their civilization would be remembered forever. Enter the Old Kingdom.
These are snippets particularly interesting to me. Didn't use square brackets to show crop outs.It was Levantine stuff maybe more suited to the topic.
How's that for a Euro honest try at the facts? Yeah it could some tweaking in a few spots. Not too bad for a beginning first step. No?