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^^As usual, the psedo-scholars just *ignore* significant information that contradicts them. Posts: 26295 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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The skeletal remains from southern China are predominately Negroid . The people practiced single burials. Secondly, archaeological research makes it clear that Negroids were very common to ancient China. In fact the oldest examples of homo sapien sapien in China were Negroes. F. Weidenreich ( in Bull. Nat. Hist. Soc. Peiping 13, (1938-30) noted that the one of the earliest skulls from north China found in the Upper Cave of Chou-k'ou-tien, was of a Negroid/Melanesoid " (p.163). These blacks were the dominant group in South China. Kwang-chih Chang, writing in the 4th edition of Archaeology of ancient China (1986) wrote that:" by the beginning of the Recent (Holocene) period the population in North China and that in the southwest and in Indochina had become sufficiently differentiated to be designated as Mongoloid and OCEANIC NEGROID races respectively…."(p.64). By the Upper Pleistocene the Negroid type was typified by the Liu-chiang skulls from Yunnan (Chang, 1986, p.69).
Negroid skeletons dating to the early periods of Southern Chinese history have been found in Shangdong, Jiantung, Sichuan, Yunnan, Pearl River delta and Jiangxi especially at the initial sites of Chingliengang (Ch'ing-lien-kang) and Mazhiabang (Ma chia-pang) phases ( see: K.C. Chang, The archaeology of ancient China, (Yale University Press:New Haven,1977) p.76) . The Chingliengang culture is often referred to as the Ta-wen-k'ou (Dawenkou) culture of North China. The presence of Negroid skeletal remains at Dawenkou sites make it clear that Negroes were still in the North in addition to South China. The Dawenkou culture predates the Lung-shan culture which is associated with the Xia civilization.
The Africans or blacks that founded civilization in China were often called li min "black headed people" by the Zhou dynasts. This term has affinity to the Sumero-Akkadian term sag- gig-ga "black headed people". These li min are associated with the Chinese cultural hero Yao.
In the Chinese literature the Blacks were called li-min, Kunlung, Ch'iang (Qiang), Yi and Yueh. The founders of the Xia Dynasty and the Shang Dynasties were blacks. These blacks were called Yueh and Qiang. The modern Chinese are descendants of the Zhou. The second Shang Dynasty ( situated at Anyang) was founded by the Yin. As a result this dynasty is called Shang-Yin. The Yin or Oceanic Mongoloid type is associated with the Austronesian speakers ( Kwang-chih Chang, "Prehistoric and early historic culture horizons and traditions in South China", Current Anthropology, 5 (1964) pp.359-375 :375). The Austronesian or Oceanic Mongoloid type were called Yin, Feng, Yen, Zhiu Yi and Lun Yi. In the Annals of the Bamboo Books, we learn that Yao devised a calendar to help regulate agrarian work through proper use of ritual and music and created a rudimentary government. The Annals of the Bamboo Books, makes it clear that Yao "he united and harmonized the myriad states [of his dominion], and the [li min] black headed people were reformed by his cordial agreement".
We also read that Shun, the successor of Yao, distinguished by his reputation as an obedient devoted son, noted to : "Ki [that] the Black headed people are suffering the distress of hunger". To help relieve the people Shun gave his throne over to Yu, the founder of the Shang Dynasty. Yu, in the Annals of the Bamboo Books, is reported to have noted that "...when a sovereign gives response to the people, he is kind, and the Black headed people cherish him in their heart". Web Sites relating to Black Chinese: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Bay/7051/blshang.htm
The Chinese writing is of African origin and the meaning of certain Shang characters, compare favorably to the ancient Proto-Saharan script used by the Harappans in the Indus Valley and the Manding script used in the ancient Sahara and Crete . Winters (1985c) outlined the spread of the Proto-Saharan script to Harappa, and throughout Saharan Africa and Asia by the Dravidians and Manding.
The identification of the first hero of China, Hu Nak Kunte as a member of the Kunte clan of the Manding speakers of Africa is supported by the close relationship between the Manding languages and Chinese. Even though we do not know the ancient pronunciation of many Chinese signs many Chinese and Manding words share analogy and suggest a Manding substratum for Chinese.
Evidence of Chinese writing first appears around 2000 B.C. as pottery marks. (Ramsey 1987, p.134) The shell-and-bone characters represented writing they were not pictures. (Ramsey 1987, p.135) In figure 24:1, we compare 14 ancient Chinese symbols and 14 ancient Manding symbols. As you can see although their are different contemporary pronunciations for these symbols they have the same meaning and shape. This suggest a genetic relationship between these scripts because we know that the present pronunciation of the Chinese symbols probably has little relationship to the ancient pronunciation of Chinese spoken in Xia and Shang times when these characters were first used. This cognation of scripts supports the proposed Dravidian and Manding migration and settlement of ancient China during Xia times.
The pronunciation of Chinese is based on the Beijing Chinese dialect which is called Mandarin Chinese. This Chinese language is also called Putonghua 'common language'. There are two systems of romanization of Chinese the Pinyin and Wade-Giles systems.
Mandarin Chinese is made up of 405 basic monosyllabics. The addition of tones to the monosyllables increased the number of basic terms to 1200.
The earliest literary Chinese is called Old Chinese. Based upon the Book of Odes and other phonetic data scholars have reconstructed the Chinese spoken around 550 B.C. (Ramsey 1987, p.134) This is good , but Old Chinese would not reflect all the speech sounds and lexical items of the blacks who found the Xia and Shang civilizations because by this time the Han Chinese were in political control of much of China.
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quote:follwing the foundation of civilisation in China, the facial featues of African and Asian blended into phenotypical 'mulatto'
^ Excellent example of the folly of race classification.
Forensic anthropologists agree that attempts to apply criteria from craniofacial anthropometry, regularly yield counter-intuitive results depending upon the weight given to each feature.
Their application invariably results in finding some East and South Indians to have "Negroid" skulls and others to have "Caucasoid" skulls, for example, while Ethiopians, Somalis, and some Zulus have "Caucasoid" skulls, and the Khoisan of southwestern Africa have "Mongoloid" skulls.
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Dr. Winters. The web page below just touches on China as picture 2 alone is from China - in the sense China annexed it. But 3 is from Bali, 4 from Indonesia, and 5 from Mongolia: so there is lots of evidence of Africans even in the artistic aspect of archeology. These are Africans in one of their most original forms, I believe. I have the greatest respect for this ancient art. I think it is generally of far higher quality than most things created today.
I DON'T SEE any thin lips here.the nose bone looks narrow,but the nostrils look flat or stretch out in the ones i see hear.I WOULD NOT CALL THESE really narrow noses.well these pictures here anyway.
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Of course the art work above is idealized,MORE OR LESS.that is my last comment on that on this thread.
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nah, look carefully,the lips are thick and the nose is flat.the nostrils are on the side of the nose.that is a flat nose.i have not seen any white nose like those.if guys can't see it,than there is nothing else for me to say abou this issue.
the only i could say is zoom the picture,or get a larger picture of the mask here.I CAN'T GET ANY CLEAR THAN THIS.
okay,time for stop FOR NOW,FOR REAL.
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