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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] Lately, I have been doing much searching into the so-called history of "Nubia" and Egypt and I came across a fundamental fact of history that MOST Egyptologists overlook or just OMIT outright. Often we speak of the prophecy of Neferti and the importance of the South against the Asiatics. We also speak of the fact that the saviour is from Ta Seti, Land of the Bow, OFTEN called Nubia by Egyptologists since it extended PAST the first cataract during much of Egypt's history. And because of the arbitrary nature of the Egyptologists definition of Nubia, these people are called Nubians. Anyway, looking at the 12th Dynasty, it is started by Amenhemhat I. He is a NON royal person, ie not related to the previous royal line. The prophecies of Neferti were WRITTEN during the period of Amenhemhat's reign and the hero of the story Ameny is supposedly Amenhemhat himself. Amenhemhat was BORN in Elaphantine, the capital of Ta Seti, by some reports. Therefore, that makes him a Nubian, since Ta Seti extended WAY past the first cataract at that time. But that is just ONE clue. As I said, I believe that what happened after the F.I.P is that there was STILL a bunch of rebellious princes in Lower Egypt, Upper Egypt AND Ta Seti. Ta Seti was given the same official treatment as Upper and Lower Egypt, since at this time it was almost as big as upper or lower Egypt, stretching almost to the 2nd cataract. The 11th dynasty took power and REUNIFIED the country with the help of the "Nubian" bowmen, who were FROM Ta Seti, Land of the Bow, NOT Nubia. Keep this in the back of your mind bow=bowmen=ta seti.... http://touregypt.net/elephantine.htm Anyway, even though Montuhotep II reunified the country, there were STILL many princes in Thebes and elsewhere who were contending for power in Egypt. Towards the end of the 11th dynasty, there were various co-regents and kings located in "Ta Seti" (called Nubia), showing that there were many people from Ta Seti who were NOT happy with the situation in the Kingdom THEY SAVED!! I think that Montuhotep II tried to placate the bowmen (the same "Nubian" Archers seen all over), by marrying a woman from Ta Seti as some sort of sign of "special" significance. However, I dont think the kings of the south RECOGNIZED this as being meaningful and WANTED MORE. At the end of the 11th dynasty, there are two versions of what happened. Either Amenhemhat, who was a general under Montuhotep, USURPED the throne of MOntuhotep IV OR he was CO-REGENT (a co-reigning king from Ta-Seti). Either way, he was NOT from the royal line of the Montuhotep clan. Now, according to Egyptologists, these Nubian archers and others who were so prominent during the 11th dynasty were just bit players in Egypt's history.... Well, I believe that is NONSENSE. You cannot understand what happened in the 12th dynasty unless you understand what was happening in the South. [QUOTE] Clayton, 1994, p85, tells us that Senusret III (c1878-1841BC) established a separate administration for the Head of the South (Elephantine and Lower Nubia) administered, like Upper and Lower Egypt, by a council of senior staff reporting to a vizier. Obviously great importance was placed on Lower Nubia at this time. A canal was rebuilt around the First Cataract at Aswan enabling easier access for troops and trading vessels to reach as far as Buhen and the Second Cataract. Goods from Upper Nubia and beyond were moved by boat on the Nile. These included ebony, ivory, spices, exotic fruit, live animals and skins. There were mines for gold, diorite and gneiss in the area (Manley, 1996, p19) [/QUOTE]from http://www.yare.org/essays/fortresses.htm Amenhemhat is also signifigant because of another reason. HE and his descendants were the FIRST to make AMUN the state god at Karnak. It is during THIS time that Gebel Arkal was part of Egypt's southern territories and the worship of Amun ORIGINATED there. But dont expect Egyptologists to make that connection. As a matter of fact, did you know that Amenhemhat I was said to have sailed South to the ends of the Earth past KUSH? The first references to Kush, HOME of Amun are during his reign. Therefore, there should be NO QUESTION that THIS is when Amun was first seen and identified with the throne and the rulership of the two lands BECAUSE of the connection of the pharoahs to the SOUTH. http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/amenemhet1.htm Note how they speculate he was the son of a PRIEST at Karnak and woman from Ta Seti, else why write the prophecy of Neferti? Read this page CAREFULLY and understand that MANY things are revealed here, but the Egyptologists prefer NOT to make the OBVIOUS connections: http://touregypt.net/hdyn12.htm Another thing to note is that Senwosret III is venerated as a GOD in lower Sudan. Why? Why are these pharoahs who were SO active in Sudan venerated? What was the TRUE nature of their activities in the South and are the Egyptologists OVER emphasizing RACIAL and ETHNIC tensions over political tensions? I believe that the 11th and 12th dynasties were part of a campaign of civil strife in Egypt that kings to be assassinated and thrones usurped, with MANY of the USURPERS coming from the South. THIS is what brought Amun to Karnak, where he probably already was, but in a lesser role. However, seeing that these people were from the South were the worship of Amun was prominent in Sudan, it would make sense for them to make him the STATE god, symbolizing the role the SOUTH (I mean DEEP SOUTH) had in REUNIFYING the country. More on Kush Egypt: [QUOTE] The sculptors of Kush displayed a striking propensity for catching individual expressions and feelings underneath the stylized masks. The admirable "block statue" of the scribe Amenemhat with his knees drawn up before him looks Egyptian at first glance. Then, viewers become aware of the asymmetrical eyes, and the vicious glee that the smiling face conveys. William Davies, keeper of Ancient Egypt and Sudan at the British Museum, points out that Amenemhat, despite his Egyptian name, is known to have been a Nubian, a "member of an elite indigenous family from Teh-Khet (the modern region of Debeira and Serra), traceable over several generations, who were thoroughly 'Egyptianized' and governed their regions on behalf of the imperial administration." [/QUOTE]The funny thing is that they call these guys "Egyptianized" without realizing WHY they called this area Teh Khet(Ta Khent) in the first place. Ta Khent means LAND OF THE BEGINNINGS/FOUNDERS. They ORIGINATED the Egyptian style in MANY ways. The page also notes how SPECIAL the relationship was between Ta Khent and Egypt, since these people were taken to Memphish for Education. You dont DO THAT for SUBJECTS or VASSALS. Therefore, Ta Khent/Ta Seti was MORE than a subject vassal state. However, if only looked at through the biased eyes of Egyptologists as "Nubians" you wont SEE that fact. [QUOTE] That the Egyptian role was important during the Old Kingdom (2686 to 2181 B.C.) is perfectly clear. Dominique Valbelle writes in the exhibition book that the Nubian princes were brought to Memphis to receive an Egyptian education. From that time on, the Egyptian connection would never be severed, even when the pendulum of political power abruptly swung. [/QUOTE]This shows how POWERFUL the kings/princes of Ta Seti were and how they were able to stage the RESURGENCE of Egypt's culture on a REGULAR basis. They were not subjects of Egypt in ANY sense of the word. More 12th dynasty: http://www.narmer.pl/dyn/12en.htm Even MOST Egyptologists acknowledge that Amenhemhat was from Ta Seti/Ta Khent (so called "Nubia") but how come they dont call THAT dynasty Nubian? In reality, the 25th dynasty was not NUBIAN either, it was KUSHITE. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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