Found near La Caleta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Caleta,_Spain La Caleta is a beach located in the historical center of the city of Cádiz, Spain. It is a natural harbor by which Phoenicians, Carthaginians and Romans penetrated historically
Gades (modern-day Cadiz, Spain) was an ancient city located on the island of Erytheia, northwest of Gibraltar at the tip of the Iberian Peninsula and is believed to be one of the most ancient cities still standing in Western Europe. Although some sources place its founding by the Phoenicians of Tyre in the eighth century BCE, other historical records claim that the city was established earlier, around 1100 BCE, as a seasonal trading post, providing the Phoenicians with access to the vast mineral wealth of the area. While historians accept the Phoenician settlement as fact, the ancient Greeks and Romans consider another possibility, believing the site to have been founded as a result of one of the twelve labours of the mythological son of Zeus, Hercules. http://www.ancient.eu.com/Gades/
Trollkillah # Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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Great info, and nice images.
Brada-Anansi Member # 16371
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Thumbs up nice find will add repost some of these images over at ESR. Any ideas who those persons are.
typeZeiss Member # 18859
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Bonampak420
do you understand what you have done? Lioness is going to see those pictures and throw up blood. Then they are going to hit up Google and find ANY picture they can find to try and contradict these photos of yours.
The photo spam war has begun.
the lioness, Member # 17353
posted This one appears to be a pithos. A pithos is a storage container used for bulk storage, primarily liquids such as oil or grain. On this type a rope and/or rod is passed through the sides as a and a pouring hole at top. This may be a smaller conatiner however for some specialized liquid. I don't see a link for the larger photos. Just one photo of this is shown at the Museo de Cádiz. What is the link to the other photos of it?
Marine pithos, lug on the bottom for insertion into a rack built across the hold.
typeZeiss Member # 18859
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^^
aaaand we are off to the races.
the lioness, Member # 17353
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the holes on the sides look original in the wet clay for a handle The top whole looks like it was put in later, crudely chipped out or maybe enlarged from a smaller original hole
" Cabeza negroide, época fenicia " ( Head negroid, Phoenician)
Tukuler Member # 19944
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A pithos of this size and shape?
Was it likely to hold a product from where people looking like that live?
Any indicators of what was actually in this particular vessel or was it unused?
the lioness, Member # 17353
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Need link, Lower head seems to have no holes and is in a case amoungst jewlery (may or may not be a hollow vessel for a related liquid)
Tukuler Member # 19944
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Not a pithos, but if indeed hollow and "residue" is on it, could be for ointment or cologne.
Pure speculation w/o anything to base it on, like some text from the museum displaying it.
Son of Ra Member # 20401
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Wow...Just wow...Further proof that blacks are indigenous to North Africa.
Son of Ra Member # 20401
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I made sure to save these pics. Everyone should follow suit.
the lioness, Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by Son of Ra: Wow...Just wow...Further proof that blacks are indigenous to North Africa.
If the head was found in Spain isn't it proof blacks were indigenous to Spain?
KING Member # 9422
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Wow even racist Spain is opening up.
Gotta luv Unity.
mena7 Member # 20555
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Bonampak20 long time no post, beautiful head of black Iberian Phoenician.
the lioness, Member # 17353
posted I looked hard for this
came up with:
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Male head with Negroid features : ( CE12093 ) Hometown : The seabed in the vicinity of the tip of the Nao (La Caleta ) Size : 22.5 x 16.5 cm (8.9 inches x 6.5 inches) Dating: sixth century B.C. Museum Museum of Cádiz
Cultural Context / Iron Old Style . Phoenician- Punic Hometown Playa de La Caleta , Cádiz ( m ) ( Cadiz Northwest Coast (district) , Cádiz ( province): Punta del Nao Underwater Archaeological Survey , Rodicio Mera, Antonio Specific / Site Location Playa La Caleta
________________________________________ It's 9 inches tall maybe it's not a jar or pithos.
Also jars and vases have a lip edge at the hole, if not liquids leak on the body of the vessel at the end of a pour
Maybe it's not a not a storage container
Could it be a thymiaterion ( ncense burner) ? But those are usually more bowl like at top, or a bowl with a lid. function unknown
it's a beautiful sculpture
xyyman Member # 13597
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any authentic sculpture of modern European looking Phoenicians?