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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] This is just more proof that KMT was a pan African culture no different than Kerma as discussed on another thread. Head binding in the 18th dynasty is strongly reminiscent of similar traditions from more modern Congo. This cannot be just a mere coincidence. Kerma "pan African" article thread: http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010308 Also the Abusir El Melek DNA did get a lot of fanfare as it is part of the ongoing effort by Egyptology to associate ancient KMT with the "Near East". Even though that requires selective sampling of ancient remains and misleading and fraudulent claims about what lineages should and could have been where in prehistory. [/qb][/QUOTE]I disagree with the term "pan-African" as neither Egypt nor Kerma involved all Africans. These were regional powers that involved the peoples within the region of northeast Africa. The same way Greece is never identified as "Pan-European" civilization, simply a civilization of the locality of southeastern Europe-- the Balkans. Ironically the very origins of Greek civilization and its people make it clear that Greece not Egypt is a much better candidate to be labeled "Near Eastern". [/qb][/QUOTE]If you consider Kerma had connections to Central Africa along with East Africa(Ethiopia, Somalia) plus trade networks along the Sahel belt, that is pretty Pan African in the sense of far flung networks of trade that extended far from the Nile Valley itself. Keep in mind that the Mega Lakes of Chad and Sudan (Darfur) that dried up 10,000 years ag were a huge factor in the waves of migration throughout Africa in all directions. And as those populations migrated they still maintained some degree of contact. And this is most important culturally as you can see common elements of African culture found in the Nile Valley all over Africa: side locks, palm leaf headdress and costume, animist principles, scepters, maces, animal worship/adoration, jewelry, etc, etc. So culturally the Nile Valley is a pinnacle of African cultural evolution which is indeed pan African in nature. But no, when I say "Pan African" I am not using it in the context of modern political struggles for African independence. I am just saying that the Nile Valley was part of a wide ranging network of trade which has existed in Africa for thousands of years even before "civilization" proper. The journeys to the Land of Punt are simply one famous example of how far flung those networks were. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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