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While on a "Dino Dig", archaeologists discovered a Stone Age Graveyard that dates back as far as 10,000 years! They've found almost 200 graves at the site that they have now deemed "Gobero". The graves are "one-of-a-kind". Two distinct groups have been identified. These two groups occupied the area at different times. Other discoveries in the area include the remains of a Sarcosuchus (Super Croc) & the plant eating Nigersaurus.
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I looked for it before I posted, but couldn't find it. Thanks.
osirion Member # 7644
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Yes the ancient Caucasoid Niger/Congo people revealed finally!
Knowledgeiskey718 Member # 15400
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quote:Originally posted by osirion: Yes the ancient Caucasoid Niger/Congo people revealed finally!
Well if you consider this following to be some imaginary "caucasoid", then you might have some screws loose. Lmao, Where did you see ancient "Caucasoid" ???
Also Notice the Occipital region
(A)-Top view of mid-Holocene adult male (G1B11; ~4645 B.C.E.) buried in a recumbent hyperflexed posture. (B)-Bottom view of burial in A showing a mud turtle carapace (Pelusios adansonii) in contact with the ventral aspect of the pelvic girdle. (C)-Skull from burial in A and B showing high calvarium, narrow zygomatic width and more prognathous face. --Paul C. Sereno
The occipital bone, a saucer-shaped membrane bone situated at the back and lower part of the cranium, is trapezoid in shape and curved on itself. It is pierced by a large oval aperture, the foramen magnum, through which the cranial cavity communicates with the vertebral canal.
The male cranium below is from Wadi al-Halfa on the Sudan-Egypt border. Dating from the Mesolithic-Holocene period, it is typical of crania in Sudan and surrounding regions from that time frame.
Queen Ahmes-Nefertary
The Elder Lady(First identified as Queen Tiye) possesses an occipital bun comparable to Mesolithic Nubians.
Thutmose II displays the globular cranium common among more recent Nubians.
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Anyway, the thread is already here, if you have a fantasy, come respond.
quote:Originally posted by rasol: ^ Osirion was being facetious.
Oh ok lol, can't tell with some people anymore, because he is also trying to make Ramesses II, into a Semite from the Near East though.
osirion Member # 7644
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;-)
I am not trying to make Ramses into anything. I am merely stating that by the time of Ramses, Asiatics had already taken hold of Egypt to the point that they overwhelmed them. Consequently, geneflow is implied and thus arguing over phenotype adaptation is rather silly. Simply it is possible that Ramses was not an African or was of mixed ancestry - simply possible and thus why argue about it.
Good stuff above though.
Doug M Member # 7650
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Actually that is historically false. What Asiatics had taken hold of Egypt in the time of Ramses II? Please name them and cite the relevant historical data that supports this.
There is none.
The fact is that the Asiatic origins of the Ramessids is purely speculative on the part of most Egyptologists who speculate that MOST Egyptians were MIXED with Asiatics TO BEGIN WITH. Anything piece of data that they can use to identify the ancient Egyptians with Asiatics(whites) they will trump up and speculate on until some people begin to treat such speculative B.S. as fact. See King Tut. See Akhenaton with Marfan's. See Nefertiti. And so on and so on.
The FACT is that there IS NO evidence of any sort of Asiatic incursions into Egypt during the time of Ramses II. In fact, just the OPPOSITE was taking place. Ramses II organized expeditions AGAINST the Asiatics and focus his attention on the Northern borders and Egyptian territory into Canaan and Byblos. So again, where is this "Asiatic" stranglehold on Egyptian land at this time?
Let's recap the 18th and 19th dynasty shall we?
Ahmose I is the victorious king of a newly unified Egypt after the EXPULSION of the Asiatics. He is followed by a long line of kings who expand territories in the lands of the Asiatics and South into Sudan. Thutmosis III was known as the Napoleon of Egypt for his exploits. At the time of Amenhotep III, Egypt was the height of its power and influence during the 18th dynasty. Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten) was the first king to go AGAINST the policies of his forebears and neglect the territorial boundaries of Kmt. Akhenaten and his line became the last rulers of the 18th dynasty. They were overthrown and replaced by the generals who brought in "new blood" to start the 19th dynasty. The Kings of the 19th dynasty set out to reclaim the glories of the ancient territorial expanses of Kmt that had been lost due to Akhenaton's heresy. The first attested Asiatic attempt to take over the throne from within Egypt was during the 19th dynasty by chancellor Bay. But this was a short lived event and the subsequent rulers went on to continue the process of fortifying and maintaining the territorial ambitions of Kmt. This continued throughout the rest of the New Kingdom, into the 20th and 21st dynasties. During this period there were continuous engagements between the ancient Egyptians and various asiatic populations. Culminating in the battles against the Sea Peoples by Ramses III.
rasol Member # 4592
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^ very good, Doug.
Djehuti Member # 6698
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Sorry it's been a while guys, but I'm back again.
Say, what happened to that old thread about the 12th dynasty? Last time I checked Obelisk bumped it up with a question, but I didn't have the time to answer then. Where is it??
Knowledgeiskey718 Member # 15400
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Sorry it's been a while guys, but I'm back again.
Say, what happened to that old thread about the 12th dynasty? Last time I checked Obelisk bumped it up with a question, but I didn't have the time to answer then. Where is it??
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