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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Hikuptah: [qb] Doug u make no sense Every diety is a created one. The debate was about the natue of christ was he man and god or just god the Westerners said he was god and man both seperate natures which means that he was two people at once man and God. But the EAstern rites said he was GodMan God & Man One Nature Godly as God and Godly as Man thats why they call them the oriental Orthodox the Monophysites Mono=One Physite=Nature One Nature. The oriental Orthodox consist of Egypt Syria Malabar India Ethiopia Eritrea these are the Monophysites. So the West thinks that Jesus was one man in two bodys. The Oriental Orthodox believes he was God & Man One Nature in Perfect Harmony. [/qb][/QUOTE]Well, atheists and other non believers would say this, but Christians would not. This goes against the central foundation of modern religion: blind faith and trust that the "word" is true and perfect and came from god himself. The point here is that Jesus Christ was formulated in Egypt and everything we know about Jesus Christ was made up in Egypt in the 1st to 4th century. How can you argue over the divine nature of a being who supposedly used his LIFE as proof itself of god's divine plan for mankind unless that PERSON never existed? Otherwise, there would be no need for a debate. Also, the Arius heresy was also partly due to the fact that Arius believed that Jesus the Christ was a made up divinity. Therefore, the reason for the debate follows from the fact that the supreme diety in Egypt up to 1 BC was Serapis, a god formulated by the Greeks to absorb the aspects of many Egyptian gods. This was the state god of Greek ruled Egypt up until 31 BC when Rome conquered Egypt. It must be kept in mind that by the time of Romes conquest of Egypt, serapis already had many of the trappings of the later Christ figure. He was associated with the ressurection and the life giving harvest of the earth from Osiris. He was called the messiah, annnointed one and savior. He was also called the "logos" or the living word, from Ptah. He was depicted much as jesus christ would later be depicted. His worship existed in Egypt and spread to Rome. However, this Greek god did not have a significant following in Egypt, because the people still worshipped the old gods. The whole "conspiracy" therefore, is the actions of the romans, in taking Serapis and creating the Christ figure as a replacement for Serapis as the official god of the Roman state. Rome then decreed that all other religions were to be banned and caused the destruction of many sanctuaries to "pagan" Greek, Roman, Egyptian and other gods throughout the empire. In these times however, the Christ figure was not CALLED Jesus. He was just the christ or messiah. But that is what SERAPIS was called at this point as well! But since Rome OUTLAWED the worship of Serapis and had reincarnated the concept of "the Christ" as Jesus the Christ, the connection to Serapis was covered up or destroyed. This is why there so many rebellions and "heresies" in the so-called church of the time, because many opposed the Romans in their attempts to take POWER under the guise of religion, by using elements of the same "pagan" gods as the basis for the new STATE god. All of it was formulated by Greek philosophers and teachers, called "bishops", even before the first council of Nicea. These "bishops" were actually priests from the Greek Egyptian state system of temples that predate Rome's takeover of Egypt. They formulated their new religion based on so-called Greek philosophical traditions about the "logos", the "messiah" and "ressurection", but in all reality, these were just Egyptian philosophical concepts being spouted by Greeks. The full story of Jesus Christ did not come until much later, after Greek writers penned the first books of the apostles, which lay the foundation of the story of the christ as we know it. The earliest known books of the apostles were all found in Egypt and most of them date to about 300-400 BC, LONG after Jesus supposedly lived and none of them are written in Hebrew. This is no coincidence either. Therefore, all of the ecumenical councils were the acts of the Romans to take serapis and make him a divine figure of the catholic church in the name Jesus Christ and to make the Pope (some say the emperor of rome) the living stand in for Christ on earth. All of the stories of christ, the symbol of the cross, the halo and all the other things we associate with christianity derived from Egyptian elements at this time. The formulation of AD/BC by Dionysius Exiguus, was based on the ancient Egyptian system of determining dates for sacred festivals which included the festival of the Spring Equinox which we now call Easter. Dionysus came up with the new system in order to accurately calculate more accurate Easter tables (spring equinox tables). Therefore, not only did the practice of calculating the dates of important festivals based on observations of the heavens come from Egypt, but also the rites and festivals associated with such dates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysius_Exiguus The history of the Egyptian easter or festival of the Spring Equinox (the new life of spring, Osiris reborn in the crops): http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/shamelnaseen.htm The true history of the early Christian fathers or "bishops" General background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop Saint Ignatius, who supposedly represents a direct line of authority passed from the apostle Peter (Saint Peter): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Antioch Saint Peter: (note there is no non biblical evidence of his existence) The "key" here is that this is the first Pope of the Eastern Catholic church (going back to the whole monophysite schism): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Peter The churches of the Eastern Rite (churches that opposed the heresy of Rome): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Rite_Catholic_Churches Nestorian a signifigant figure in the Eastern Rite who opposed the terms "Mother of God" for Mary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorius Christology or the defining of Jesus Christ as it originates in the 1st century AD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christology The ebionites, followers of John the Baptist who opposed the divinity of Christ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites Origin of the virgin birth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Birth Origin of the new testament and their dubious authenticity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markan_priority The Gospel of John: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John Redaction (the gospels were wholly created works of the early christian church, formed and edited by consent and theological decree not divine inspiration): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redaction_criticism The New Testament (a series of revised works of dubious authenticity of the life of Jesus): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament Therefore, from this we can see that the Jesus legend originated as the story of a man, but was subsequently associated with the form of Serapis, the Greek/Roman "messiah" by Roman decree, which caused much controversy. He was then fused with all sorts of divine aspects, also under roman decree, such as divine birth, the resurrection, the concept of the "logos" and so on. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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