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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lion!: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ausar: [qb] Lion, in your post to Kenis you make the following statement: Martin Bernal author of Black Athena Vol. II, The Afroasiatic Roots Of Classical Civilization, Copyright 1991, published by Rutgers University Press, New Brunswick, New Jersey, pg. 120, points to the correlation between what the ancient Greeks said about Heracles ( Hercules ) and the names of certain pharoahs of Egypt: "In both Thespiai and Thisbe, as well as at Koroneia, Herakles was known as Kharops, Herakles Kharops, or more often Kharops Herakles. The epithet would seem to mean 'flashing-eyed'. However another possibility is that the name is related to Kekrops the founder of Athens, who also had a shrine at Haliartos. Kekrops will be discussed further in Volume 3 but here it is sufficient to say that I shall argue that the name may be related HprK3R~, H ~ hpr R~, or H ~ k3wR~, the prenomena of Senwosres I, II, III. Thus, there are some possible additional associations of the Boiotian Herakles to the 12th Dynasty Egypt". The throne name of Senwosret III is Kha-kau-Re, of Senwosret I is Kheper-ka-Re, and Senwosret II is Kha-kheper-Re. The resemblance to the Greek Kekrops speaks for itself. It was common in ancient Greek language that Egyptian names and words were often transliterated as one combined word and or abbreviated. [b]Diodorus Siculus records that the ancient Egyptians maintain that Kekrops was an Egyptian ruler who founded Athens for colonization[/b]. In your responce you then made the following claims without giving references or citations: Lion! writes: [b]What relevance is this question to the fact that it is universally acknowledge that the ancient Athenians had a view of themselves as a former Egyptian colony?[b] Ancient writers like [b]Homer, Solon, Pythagoras, Socrates, Diodorus Siculus, Herodotus, Heliodotus, Tacitus, all believed that ancient Egypt had a founding influence on ancient Greece.[/b] Would you seriously doubt the veracity of the eye witness? [/qb][/QUOTE]Ausar That post to Kleins was clearly a paraphrase quote from Black Athena written by Martin Bernal. My source was cited right up front. I suppose we can trust the integrity of Martin Bernal a Jewish scholar and an Ivy League Professor when he makes such a claim. Or we can no longer trust this great authority? Is that what you are suggesting? The rules of discourse appear to be changing... The Lion! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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